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我爱广州GZ
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10:40
【港股打新】果下科技:188倍PE,疯了啊你?
果下科技IPO招股分析,一共3.4万手,188倍PE,9倍PS,我没办法评论了,你自己看着办吧: 图片 一、公司情况 核心业务储能(ESS),把电存起来,果下是典型的集成商,上面采购宁德、比亚迪或者电动车退役的电池,下游卖给别人(大型电站、电网、工商业、个个人用户)。 赛道可以:储能市场是新能源革命的关键环节,中国市场巨大,目前供不应求。 增速很快:营收22年1.42亿,24年10.26亿,看起来还不错,营收爆炸。 图片 储能这个赛道好,需求很旺盛,核心痛点是大家都只是集成商,没什么技术壁垒,被上游做电池的死死卡住了脖子。 后面的毛利率也能清晰看到这一点。 二、商业壁垒 我真心觉得做储能的集成商,没有什么壁垒.....储能系统的核心组件(电芯和PCS)被上游电池巨头掌握(如宁德时代、比亚迪等)人家说什么价格就是什么价格。 图片 果下主打AI算法+模块化系统+交钥匙能力,小客户可能吃这套话术,但大型储能是项目导向、资金与渠道为王,国网/国企体系里,中标链条不靠技术一句话就打通。 市场占有率方面,果下是全球第10大、中国第8大储能企业,全球市占率只有3%。 三、财务数据 挺吓人的,直接炸了。 营收:要承认营收还可以,22年1.42亿,24年10.26亿,25上半年收入6.9亿。 毛利率:极其惨烈,23年毛利率26.7%,24年毛利率15.1%,25年上半年毛利率12.5% 图片 净利率:25年上半年,收入6.91亿,净利润0.05亿,H1的净利润率才0.7%! 总结:高成长,盈利质量极差,现金流不想看了,估计也是极差。 前两年跑到欧洲市场,趁人家俄乌战争的时候赚欧洲人的钱,现在欧洲市场不让玩了,回到国内,面临惨烈的杀价,虽然国家鼓励储能,但是竞争对手实在太多,完全看不到希望。 四、发行结构 1、保荐人:光大 2、基石:10%,不谈了,这都是什么基石.... 图片 3、公开发售机
【港股打新】果下科技:188倍PE,疯了啊你?
# 纳芯微破发,卓越大涨!打新变难了?
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😀这么多联席账簿管理人是啥情况啊,相当于推销卖货的吗?
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卡卡奥普讯
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12-07 17:15
$XIAO NOODLES(02408)$
市盈率太高,跌倒1到2块钱还能看看。
$XIAO NOODLES(02408)$ 市盈率太高,跌倒1到2块钱还能看看。
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港股解码
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10:59
【IPO追踪】又一家新股来了!卓越睿新首日高开大涨
近日新股的首日表现出现分化,既有
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$遇见小面(02408)$
这样上市即破发的新股,也有乐摩科技(02539.HK)这样首日大涨的个股。 12月8日,
$卓越睿新(02687)$
、纳芯微(02676.HK)也双双登陆了港股市场。其中,卓越睿新首日迎来高开上攻,截至发稿时间涨25.93%,最新股价85港元。 从招股阶段的表现来看,香港公开发售方面,卓越睿新获4813.4倍认购,公开发售的股份最终数目为66.67万股股份,占发售股份总数的约10%。合共接获约13.52万份有效申请,受理申请数目为6667份,申购一手获配发股份占所申请股份总数的概约百分比为1%,意味着一手中签率为1%。 此外,国际配售阶段,卓越睿新获2.33倍认购,比较低迷,国际发售股份最终数目为600万股股份,相当于发售股份总数的90%。 而卓越睿新的每股发售价为67.50港元/股,每手100股,不计手续费,以现价85港元/股计算,一手赚1750港元。 根据资料,卓越睿新是一家中国知名的高等教育机构教学数字化解决方案提供商,致力于高等教育机构数字化教育内容、数字化教学环境服务及产品的提供交付和运营。公司的产品服务覆盖教、学、练、考、评、管等所有重要方面。 根据弗若斯特沙利文的资料,按2024年收入计,前五大公司的总市场份额为12.9%。中国高等教育机构包括大学及高职院校。根据弗若斯特沙利文的资料,2024年,卓越睿新在中国高等教育教学数字化市场所有公司中收入排名第二,市场份额为4.0%;而在中国高等教育数字化教学内容制作市场所有公司中
【IPO追踪】又一家新股来了!卓越睿新首日高开大涨
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西门吹牛.
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12-05
打新的风险越来越高
打新的风险越来越高,很多同学问我为啥很长时间没分享打新策略了,因为赚钱的概率小了,已经失去了分享价值。遇见
$遇见小面(02408)$
$天域半导体(02658)$
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左右强弱损盈杠仓
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12-05
$遇见小面(02408)$
卖面条的都能上市?港股真邪门
$遇见小面(02408)$ 卖面条的都能上市?港股真邪门
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猫钓了个鱼:
要不说呢 [笑哭] [笑哭]
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随风扯淡秀
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12-04
$遇见小面(02408)$
明天的午饭就去遇见小面的门店吃面去……[捂脸]
$遇见小面(02408)$ 明天的午饭就去遇见小面的门店吃面去……[捂脸]
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活爹啊! 这是在抢💩吃啊!不是吃面啊!
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左右强弱损盈杠仓
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12-05
$遇见小面(02408)$
杭州一家店都没有??
$遇见小面(02408)$ 杭州一家店都没有??
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非著名投资人:
机场 我好像 上次看到过
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我爱广州GZ
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12-05 19:52
本周打新复盘,天台4兄弟
图片 一、简单复盘 同期打新的天台四兄弟,3个里面破发了3个,卓越瑞新没有破发,和我们的预期一致。 1、这一轮纳芯微和天域半导体是明牌,推沟里,打了就要天台吃面,一个是折扣太低(纳芯微),另外一个(天域半导体)是估值高到离谱,而且货量不少。 2、遇见小面算是要赌的,只不过我很幸运的赌中了,没有庄运作而已,发行人狠狠地割了一波国配的韭菜,不必神化我.... 图片 今天一开盘国配就砸盘了,您真牛,9.1万手都割了......千万不要觉得国配多聪明,机构也是追涨杀跌的,该止损的时候挥泪自宫...(小助理说的自宫) 打新前,确实遇见小面的小道消息满天飞,并不是说其他推荐打小面的大V是他们菜,并不是,只是我胆子小而已: 图片 总结: 小渔村交易所这天真的以为,把散户公配控制在10%,通过B机制,机构投资者(国际配售)就能很理性的去稳住股价。 事实证明,这种想法实在是过于天真,港交所你还是too young too simple 2021年,外资从香港撤了1500亿的热钱;同时,港股通南下,喊着“跨过香江去、争夺定价权”的口号,1年时间,香港恒指从30000点轰轰烈烈跌到23000 事实已经证明,还将继续证明:港股是机构投资者,尤其是外资所主导的理性市场。 图片 二、机构观点 昨天小面暗盘之后,给大家剧透了一下,机构眼里的观点。 图片 昨天小面-15%,今天小面-27%,不要留恋就对了,小面的长期价值我再重申一遍,只值2港元。 至于纳芯微,如果有不幸的朋友打了,我也可以悄悄跟你们说,请关注一下敲钟的时间。 你们会回来感谢我的。 图片 三、卓越睿新 图片 虽然是涨了,但是这个涨幅非常让我失望,这个票我们team打听了很久,都没有拿到国配,从各方了解到,典型的club deal。 发行人:卓越睿新,市值拉不到100亿以上,我真看不起你。 这个票我没中签,我是主力,铁了心要把这个票拉到160
本周打新复盘,天台4兄弟
# 谷歌逼近4万亿!现在更看好谷歌or Meta?
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坐看股飞:
就看京东工业pe,东哥没把我当兄弟,不打
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我爱广州GZ
·
12-07 22:14
【港股打新】京东工业,最终决定
遇见小面破发后,京东工业群内的争议很热烈,打与不打两派都快打起来了 我先给你我的核心结论:京东工业是否有肉取决的定价,上限定价吃面,下限定价有肉 下限定价的前提下,回报空间有限,偏向于稳健的小肉,首日涨幅5% - 15% 一、核心争议 东子旗下所有上市公司,除了先上市后被收购的德邦,其他全是破发。东子这货人品太差了,自己泡妞也就算了,全是让股东吃面 京东工业估值即PE高 手数太多,跟赛力斯一样的10W手,容易破发 我下面点对点分析。 刘强东车贴挂画喝酒照... 还有人说京东工业和京东健康上市后一路跌,这个我不想多解释,这个议题跟IPO打新无关,20、21年本来就是恒生科技在历史大顶,京东工业我中签肯定3天内卖光。 二、历史情况 京东旗下公司IPO 京东集团:2020.6上市,高开+5.7%,收盘+3.5% 京东健康:2020.12上市,高开+34%,收盘+55.8% 京东物流:2021.5上市,高开+14%,收盘+12% 所有京东系上市都是让打新者吃到肉的,只不过后面股价随着恒科崩盘而泥沙俱下。 京东系公司定价上并非总是追求上限,而是非常务实,根据当时的市场热度进行调整,不是那种每一钢蹦都要赚尽的发行人,更倾向于留有余地换取长期的流动性口碑。 图片 这种策略被称为钓鱼策略。 在冷静期上市的优质公司,发行人和保荐人深知市场承接力不足,因此会刻意将价格定在区间中下部或下限,留出 5%-10% 的安全溢价,目的是吸引长线机构资金入场。 图片 三、到底贵不贵? 发行价12.7-15.5,发行后总市值341-416亿港元。 多个维度来看: 静态PE:34.2倍-41.7倍。 市销率PS:1.5x - 1.8x,高于震坤行,低于Grainger很多。 DCF:大致测算股权价值353亿港元。 (测算过程:24营收204亿人民币,假设未来5年增长率逐渐从20%收敛至10%,EBITDA利润
【港股打新】京东工业,最终决定
# 标普成分股调整!MRVL&CVNA,有机会吗?
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随风扯淡秀
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12-05
$遇见小面(02408)$
我来吃面了,[捂脸] 点餐小程序还好意思庆祝自己上市
$遇见小面(02408)$ 我来吃面了,[捂脸] 点餐小程序还好意思庆祝自己上市
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我爱广州GZ
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12-04
【港股打新】定了,就这么打(京东工业、宝济医药-B)
专注:港股打新、美股打新、低风险套利,关注作者,不错过下个深度分析。 我爱广州GZ 08级华工本硕/基金经理/CFA。全程参与:15-21年港股打新黄金期,22-24年打新废铁期,24-25打新钻石期 222篇原创内容 公众号 一、暗盘情况 遇见小面、天域半导体的暗盘情况,双双破发,机制B也不是护身符,天价发行,脱离基本面乱来,市场是不会买账的。 打新的本质是投资,还是要回归企业本身的估值、赚钱能力上来。 明天国配到货,可能会砸的更狠。 图片 遇见小面-14%,我觉得这个都是客气的了,从估值上讲,跌-75%是正常估值,60倍发行PE想啥呢。 长期目标价:2港元 图片 天域半导体-17%,40倍PS把股民当傻子,跌75%到10倍PS差不多。 长期目标价:15港元 对了,要维权的朋友,请明天上午9时准时移步香港丽思卡尔顿酒店3楼。 吃遇见小面。 图片 二、后面怎么打 目前宝济药业-B,孖展570倍,京东工业孖展13倍。 我预计: 本次吸引资金4000亿左右,宝济药业最后孖展2400倍,京东工业最后孖展480倍。 涨幅: 1、宝济药业-B:上涨70%~100% 2、京东工业:上涨5%~15% 图片 至于中签率: 1、宝济药业-B:甲尾乙头有30-60%的概率中签1手,由于有京东工业的存在,顶头槌可以稳中,而且不止1手。 2、京东工业:甲尾乙头预计中签3-4手,顶头槌中签60手,吃饱喝足。 收益率: 1、宝济药业-B 收益期望:2664*(30%+60%)/2*(70%+100%)/2=1020港元 2、京东工业: 收益期望:3131*3.5*(5%+15%)/2=1100港元 其实差不多的。 总结: 1、我作为中型资金的代表,会选择梭哈宝济药业-B,余下来的资金打京东工业。 2、天域和小面的破发,不影响宝济药业-B、京东工业的赚钱红包。我这么保守稳健的人,信我就对了。 3、对于小
【港股打新】定了,就这么打(京东工业、宝济医药-B)
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101可转债
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12-03
遇见小面和天域半导体中签分配结果~
$遇见小面(02408)$
$天域半导体(02658)$
遇见小面(2408)出分配结果了,400手中1手,甲尾2-3手,乙头4手;上限定价,定价:7.04,一手500股;具体分析可以看看上一篇文章,只做参考,不做投资买卖建议。 天域半导体(2658)出分配结果了,30手稳中1手,甲尾15-16手,乙头28-29手;定价:58,一手50股;货有点多,抛压有些大,开始拼手速了,具体分析可以看看上一篇文章,只做参考,不做投资买卖建议。 你觉得会破发吗??
遇见小面和天域半导体中签分配结果~
# 纳芯微破发,卓越大涨!打新变难了?
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天域抛压大,可能破发,谨慎!
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12-03
看好遇见小面在港股上市后的表现!作为中式面馆第一股,遇见小面凭借独特的川渝风味和高效的运营模式,近年来展现出强劲的增长势头,2022至2024年复合年增长率高达66.2%,2024年营收突破11.54亿元,充分体现了品牌的市场竞争力。门店网络覆盖内地22个城市及香港地区,用户基础扎实,成长空间广阔。随着港股消费概念持续升温,叠加中餐标准化、品牌化的发展趋势,相信遇见小面有望借助资本市场的力量进一步加速扩张,提升品牌影响力。期待它在资本舞台上绽放光彩,成为中国新式餐饮出海的标杆!祝遇见小面IPO圆满成功,未来业绩长虹!
看好遇见小面在港股上市后的表现!作为中式面馆第一股,遇见小面凭借独特的川渝风味和高效的运营模式,近年来展现出强劲的增长势头,2022至2024年复合年增长...
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希望中签的朋友发大财!
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肉松爱老虎
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12-04
$遇见小面(02408)$
小面和半导体 都没打,看来选择还是对的
$遇见小面(02408)$ 小面和半导体 都没打,看来选择还是对的
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发发发財财财
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12-04
$遇见小面(02408)$
比海伟股份暗盘还狠,定价有点高
$遇见小面(02408)$ 比海伟股份暗盘还狠,定价有点高
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$遇见小面(02408)$
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目前4只新股即将截止招股,分别是遇见小面、天域半导体、纳芯微、卓越睿新。今天新上个宝济药业。 个人对即将截止的4只新股兴趣都不大,都不准备认购了。今天新上的宝济药业会重点关注。 这4只基本面方面也乏善可陈,估值整体都偏贵,当然除了基本面,相对打新,筹码结构反而会更重要些。 这里面讨论热度比较大的是遇见小面,我知道至少有三家机构可以搞到首日即可出货的国配锚定份额,目前这个行情,但凡有点安排,就是关系再好能拿到基石或6个月铁锚的也狠狠狠不容易,这能直接给小散首日可出的份额,我觉得不是什么好事。。 小面大概率上限定价,约50亿市值,要入通基本要维持住翻倍涨幅预期,目前情况看,难度太大了。 相对值博率高的我觉得是卓越睿新,但它也太难中签了,一手中签率大概率不到2%,顶头也稳不了一手,实在是鸡肋。 昨天他们给我个图,对上这四只新股,我觉得很应景。 图片 你说你选哪个? 有老板说,关灯我都要。。 那我敬你是个汉子! 最近的新股,除了创新实业搞了基石外,其余我整体兴趣都不大,更多精力放在二级市场上了。。 创新实业是搞铝的,我目前持有的金银铜铝全覆盖了,10月中旬市场回调后,我们重点搞了白银! 图片 目前白银etf已经把成本做到负数了,一些白银矿股也几十个点盈利。下面是部分美股的持仓,a股和港股也有,就不展示了。 图片 图片 11月份整体做的一般,因为持有很多弹性很大的小股,市场好的时候它们弹性也大;行情不好,他们跌的幅度也大。。 所以回撤13个点,这还是10月中旬减仓后,大概7成仓位,要不回撤的会更多。 图片 12月份整体还是保住今年利润为主,稳字当头,不会有更激进的投资策略。 祝各位都发财!
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# 宝济药业-B&京东工业IPO!能否扭转打新颓势?
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果断选宝济,其他四个雷坑太多[吃瓜]
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吃碗小面,亏个一点点吧[笑哭]
$遇见小面(02408)$ 吃碗小面,亏个一点点吧[笑哭]
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12-04
抱歉,大家!原来这些票都是“渣男”套路…
如往常一样,先放策略。 总体来说,天域和纳芯微不打,卓越和小面五五或四六。 今天暗盘,遇见小面短暂红了一下下就破发,天域我没盯着,打开的时候已经破发十几个点。 遇见小面作为我新规后首个看走眼的票,说说我给4星的逻辑。 其实很简单,虽然基本面还ok,但是撑不起这个估值,50亿市值完全是脱离基本面的,打的理由就是赌机制B的主力,此前健康160和西普尼一样估值离谱,结果涨的飞起,我以为他卖的贵是因为跟主力谈好了条件,没想到是纯来圈钱的。 好吧,我在第一层,你在大气层。 不过出货策略还是很明确的,开盘就跑,如果不犹豫,不一定能红着走,但在破发5个点左右走还是没啥问题。 (我亏着走的,上图来自某位美女粉丝) 开盘一笔大单16.5k的大单卖出,钉头锤13手8K股,这笔大概率是国配在跑。国配暗盘都亏着走,没主力的概率很大。 加上海伟股份,暗盘破发的机制B一婚股就有三家,相比远古时期套路回拨(回拨20%)的大涨,以及机制B刚刚出台之时的疯牛行情,大伙儿似乎已经对回拨10%祛魅了。 我8月26日的文章双登股份也来咬人了,新股高开低走成常态?以后该怎么出货?中写到: 目前新股涨幅远不如机制B刚出来那会,还接连出现破发(包括二婚股和海伟股份),所以一直跟大家说暗盘开盘就跑(除了乐摩科技)。 而这次两家一起破,大概率标志着市场将重回理性,所以以后我的结论风格将更贴近新规前,更看重估值合理性及基本面情况,一般不打赌票。 好消息是不用再捏着鼻子申购,坏消息是可能会错过一些有主力的票,大家想赌的可以看情况自行选择。 现在的逻辑已经有从主力操盘,向发行人高价发行割韭菜转变的苗头(纳芯微上限定价FYI),决策需要更加慎重。 至于天域半导体,策略里写了,能发出来就不错,还卖这么贵,最后一地鸡毛毫不意外。
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# 纳芯微破发,卓越大涨!打新变难了?
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遇见小面的破发毫不稀奇
作者 | 艾青山 来源 |未来消费 12月5日,遇见小面正式登陆港交所主板,成为港股首家以中式面馆为主营业务的上市公司。只不过,资本市场并未给予热情回应。 遇见小面以5.00港元/股开盘,较7.04港元的发行价低开近29%,盘中一度跌逾29%,最终收报5.08港元,跌幅27.84%。 换言之,遇见小面直接大幅破发,说明市场对遇见小面的未来颇有争议。 一方面来看,遇见小面的上市,标志着中式面馆赛道终于跑出一家上市公司,整个赛道价值被肯定;另一方面,遇见小面自身也存在不少经营挑战,未来发展难以清晰判断。 遇见小面的上市破发,正说明中式面馆行业,还有大量问题尚未解决。 01. 首先得承认,遇见小面的财务表现的确亮眼。 据招股书披露,2022至2024年,遇见小面营收由4.18亿元增至11.54亿元,年复合增长率达66.2%;净利润从亏损3597万元转为2024年盈利6070万元,2025年上半年再录得4183万元,同比增长95.8%。 这使得遇见小面在中式面馆赛道中脱颖而出,根据弗若斯特沙利文数据,其2024年以0.5%的市场份额位列全国中式面馆第四,同时稳居川渝风味细分品类第一。 只不过,高速增长的背后,是“以价换量”策略。2022年至2025年上半年,其直营门店客单价从36.1元持续下滑至30.9元,降幅近15%。公司解释称,此举旨在提升客流与整体销售额。 但问题在于,同期遇见小面直营餐厅翻座率从3.6次/天下降至3.1次/天,2024年与2025年上半年同店销售额分别下滑4.4%和3.1%。 另据窄门餐眼数据,截至12月5日,其全国门店达479家,但单店日均销售额已由2023年的13880元降至2024年的12402元,2025年上半年进一步下滑。 另外,尽管公司尝试通过增加烧烤、米饭、甜品等SKU延长消费时段,但午市仍占据主要客流,晚市与周末转化情况还有待观察。 与此同时
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