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掉队的蔚来，不是4年前的特斯拉

砺石商业评论2021-12-27

2021年12月18日，在2021蔚来日（NIO Day 2021）上，蔚来正式发布中型智能电动轿跑ET5，起售价为32.8万元，顶配版为38.6万元。如果采用蔚来的租赁电池方案，ET5起售价可以降低到25.8万元，电池月费为980元/月、1480元/月。ET5预计将于2022年9月开启交付。成立7年之后，蔚来迎来了第五款量产车型，这也是蔚来旗下第二款轿车。很多人或许还记得，不到一年之前的...

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边牧佩
·2021-12-28
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施曾伟
·2021-12-27
这篇文章的作者是来搞笑的嘛😄
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Fastable
·2021-12-27
真服了，没用过蔚来的车却在那写蔚来的换电体验，简直是扯淡，换电有多香，只有车主有发言权，一月6次终身免费，不香吗
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- Fastable:
  回复前动动脑子，股票谁都可以买，没体验过的人能写体验吗？
  太监写的性生活体验有说服力？
  乞丐写五星级酒店入住体验有说服力？
  2022-01-17
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- 张小明美股:
  那nio的股票以后规定只能车主买好了。传销公司今天的掉队是必然
  2021-12-27
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cc_8150
·2021-12-27
把花里胡哨的东西去掉点，节约点支出，车价下来点
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- Nathan_2706:
  这个市场没有必要再来一辆model3。model3已经很好了。所以不用拿model3来对标et5
  2021-12-27
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KSCNlcj
·2021-12-27
太不客观了吧，哈哈哈，换电站太方便了，哈哈哈，一看写文章的这人就没有蔚来的车，甚至都没有实际体验一下换电
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- 低买高卖谁不会:
  我们公司也做换电，这个行业比较有搞头
  2023-01-01
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- 阿寻:
  我只关心蔚来的股票现在能不能买
  2023-01-01
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- 杜向峰:
  我没有蔚来的车子，但是我还是蛮看好换电的
  2023-01-01
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Williamwang
·2021-12-27
何必多说你晒空单即可。
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真的英雄
·2021-12-27
拉高就是找人接盘的，只是过程比较漫长罢了
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北方吴大仙
·2021-12-27
当他的讲话引起关注的时候他的目的已经达到
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你的名字_2414
·2021-12-27
换电是一种偷懒的做法
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成都老斯基
·2021-12-27
4年前的恒大
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九里堤第一巴图鲁
·2021-12-27
转自新浪了蔚黑大本营啊可以不用看了
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梓坚
·2021-12-27
蔚来是你冷静一下的时候了，好好想一想未来👌
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Justin_L
·2021-12-27
太狂了不务实，我看后面会出事
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猛逃
·2021-12-27
继续碰瓷吧[财迷]
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ninja_5799
·2021-12-27
人云亦云，没脑子
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大威小郭
·2021-12-27
只知道那一晚被充值的所有车评人们跟过年一样～给人们一种假象这车这个价格便宜的就跟白菜一毛钱一斤一样～就看着车评广告人们一个个在疯狂晒订单或者发出“为什么卖这么便宜？”的疑问，还有很大一批人在说“中国人从此站起来了”很多消费者感觉在看着一群小丑表演
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华尔街小街
·2021-12-27
持有蔚来，小鹏，理想的股东们，梦想着也和特斯拉一样百倍的回报。
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魏总总
·2021-12-27
说这句话的目的，就是为了吸引眼球
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森林里的一棵树
·2021-12-27
李斌能说出不明白为什么还会有人买油车，还有现在的蔚来是四年前的特斯拉这样的话，说明他并未正视市场，这点我站边作者观点。希望蔚来只是战略上藐视，战术上有所作为
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- 黄老怪:
  单说服务，还真的没有企业能比得上蔚来
  2023-01-01
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- 东营天地人和:
  蔚来的股价涨不起来是有道理的
  2023-01-01
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- 低买高卖谁不会:
  李斌说话不顾脑子，他自己也有油车的
  2023-01-01
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词不达意12
·2021-12-27
蔚来过了电动车这个风口会是先摔死那个。标记。
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3，但蔚来似乎忘记了双方品牌的差距。引领电动汽车行业潮流的特斯拉，无疑是当前汽车品牌中最潮、最酷、最具科技感的那一个，其品牌在市场中的号召力要远胜过蔚来。\n对标宝马3系，ET5就更加自信，用李斌的话说就是“完全不理解还有人买油车”。利用ET5对标宝马3系，强调自身豪车品牌定位，蔚来此举有着明显“强蹭”宝马之嫌。毕竟拥有百年辉煌的BMW，在品牌、技术、规模、供应链等方面的实力，蔚来难以望其项背。正如同iphone经常在各种手机发布会上被“吊打”一样，众多国产手机品牌堆料十足，却依然无法抗衡苹果。所以单单靠尺寸、百米加速等性能指标来证明ET5超越宝马3系，蔚来明显是自说自话。\n而且ET5的发布还可能带来“左右手互搏”的问题。相比车型、配置都较为相近的ET7，ET5便宜了将近12万元，这很难不引起部分ET7预定车主的倒戈。\n针对ET5有可能会“杀敌一千，自损八百”的担忧，蔚来总裁秦力洪坦陈部分预定ET7的用户犹豫很正常，“ET5绝大多数订单还是来自没买过任何蔚来产品的新用户。”李斌则直接表示“家里两个孩子，谁有出息都行”。\n但即便牺牲ET7，ET5恐怕也难成为爆款。与Model 3、比亚迪汉、小鹏P7、极氪001等同类竞品相比，ET5起售价最高。而面对已经量产交付且售价更便宜的Model 3、小鹏P7，有多少用户愿意用近一年的时间去等待ET5？\n\n\n用户买油车，并不难理解\n自2014年11月创立至今，刚满7岁的蔚来一直争议不断、话题不断。尤其是其创始人李斌一次次的“雷人”语录，更是给蔚来品牌带来了话题。\n比如2018年10月，一段李斌接受央视采访的小视频冲上热搜，视频中李斌声称“保时捷工厂比不上江淮的工厂”引来群嘲和热议。\n这次ET5的发布，李斌心情明显不错，接受采访时又开始“放飞自我”。从公开的完整视频来看，李斌是在回答某位提问者有关“ET5和油车比较”这样的问题时，一时兴起发感慨的。\n视频中，面带招牌微笑的李斌表示“完全想不出油车除了能闻点汽油味还有什么好”，随后李斌还用机械表和电子表做了个类比，认为买油车就像买机械表一样，更多是一种情怀，然后又反击了外界对充电焦虑的质疑，认为充电焦虑的基本都是汽油车用户操电动车的心。\n\n\n李斌还表示，不只是买蔚来的用户，买其他品牌电车的人都是明智的。蔚来有信心去和BBA的油车打，还建议消费者宁可去买宝马的电动车，也不要买宝马的油车。李斌的话里话外都流露着“油车已是老古董”的味道。\n但刚刚过去的11月，我国狭义乘用车销量达到了181.6万辆，新能源汽车只占到了37.8万辆，其中还有相当一部分是油电混合汽车，并不是纯电动汽车。如此看来，“不明智”的消费者大有人在。\n有人认为，号称“出行教父”的李斌很可能是故意为之，以此来增加蔚来ET5的曝光度，毕竟现在更多的消费者愿意买油车，实际上并不难理解。\n随着电池技术的提升，电动汽车的续航能力近年来有了显著提高，但电动车的冬季续航里程焦虑以及传统节假日排队充电问题依旧无解，这是当下所有的油车用户必须要操的心。\n而李斌之所以强调充电焦虑这一问题，或许也与蔚来汽车引以为傲的换电技术有关。\n自成立以来，蔚来坚持发展换电业务，可充、可换、可升级的电池管理方案已经成为蔚来的一块独特招牌。据蔚来官方介绍，截至目前蔚来已经拥有了733座换电站。预计到2022年底，蔚来要建成1300+座换电站、6000+座超充桩，以及超过1万个目的地充电桩。\n不过，据不少蔚来车主表示，蔚来换电站的便利性似乎不敢恭维：一是蔚来换电站太少，与全国近12万座的加油站相比，700多座换电站几乎是少得可怜；二是换电站只有4个标准车位、13块电池，电池本身还需要充电，“哪怕附近有换电站，有电池也跟中奖一样艰难”！\n另外，对绝大多数用户来说，蔚来汽车的换电成本非常高昂。就拿刚刚发布的ET5来说，租电池方案购车价格为25.8万（不含电池），这已是豪车的门槛，并高于尺寸相近、续航相近的小鹏P7（补贴后起售价为21.99万元）和特斯拉Model 3（补贴后起售价为25.5652万元）。而且ET5租电池方案下的电池月费分别为980元、1480元，远高于目前的燃油车加油费用。\n\n\n综上种种，如果李斌真正了解这些用户体验，或许就能够理解为什么那么多人买油车了。\n掉队的蔚来，不是4年前的特斯拉\n乘联会最新数据显示，2021年1-11月，小鹏汽车累计新车交付量为82155辆，正式超越蔚来（80940辆）成为造车新势力第一名。而且从小鹏汽车最近的上升势头来看，蔚来新势力“大哥”之位或将永远成为过去式。\n小鹏汽车之所以超越蔚来，一个原因就在于小鹏汽车价格更加亲民，符合大众市场。但蔚来汽车平均价格在40万元左右，价格过高、脱离正在爆发的中端大众市场成为蔚来继续发展的阻碍。\n\n\n实际上，在蔚来ET5价格公布之后，有关ET5价格为何不在Model 3区间的问题被问的最多。李斌对此的回应是，搞到25万以下也不是没可能，“如果不搞这么多用户权益的话。”\n显然，为了让蔚来车主享受到更多服务与权益，ET5只能牺牲掉价格上的优势。但如此一来，蔚来就完全放弃了30万元以下的整车市场。\n与主流新能源车企所采用的高压充电模式不同，蔚来汽车一直在豪赌换电技术，但除了用户使用实际便利性等问题之外，蔚来换电站目前还面临对内无法收费（蔚来首任车主可终身享受每月6次的免费换电服务）、对外无法创收的尴尬。\n由于动力电池的规格参数尚未统一，蔚来换电站无法向非蔚来车型提供换电服务，而即便是年销售千万级别的大众、丰田也无法承担单独自建加油站的成本，规模十倍以上的特斯拉也需要将自家充电桩对外提供服务。蔚来的自建换电站，还能持续多久、扩大多少规模，令人担忧。\n显然，高企的换电成本，也是蔚来汽车迟迟无法降价的一个重要原因。\n此外，李斌此前之所以高调为江淮工厂站台，是因为蔚来ES8量产后由江淮汽车代工。但由于早期亏损严重，蔚来取消了位于上海嘉定的工厂建设计划。自此，蔚来在自建产能布局方面开始落后，如今面临到产能和供应链的双重压力。\n作为“蔚小理”阵营中的昔日“老大”，蔚来在2021年下半年掉队已经成为常态化。针对这一问题，秦力洪在媒体会上似乎无法给予正面回应，只是表示三者定位不同，不存在可比性。执着于高端定位、用户服务，成本高企的蔚来，实则是无法正视这一问题。\n“把BBA搞成NBA是我们的目标，这是短兵相接的竞争”，相比于新势力同行竞争，蔚来似乎对PK传统的BBA更有信心。\n短兵相接并不假。就在ET5发布之前，BBA们的电动化转型已经按下加速键，除了iX3之外，宝马i4、iNEXT等一批I系列电动车型将陆续上市，奔驰EQS也在国内正式上市。显然，蔚来不仅要面对BBA油车竞争，还要面对它们纯电车型的正面反攻。\n“我们今天差不多相当于2017年时候的特斯拉，也就是Model 3交付之前。”李斌如此表示。\n但4年前的Model 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