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11-22
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夜读|谁来挽救当前美股的颓势?
但考虑到后续缺乏完整的官方经济数据,11月报告将延迟至12月16日发布,晚于FOMC会议时间,而美联储在9月和10月已经连续降息,12月再次降息的决策变得更加困难。而风险资产却呈现显著降温,比特币跌破9万美元,美股则在高开后大幅跳水,创下四月对等关税以来盘中最大逆转,英伟达财报的超预期并未挽救美股颓势,海外市场风险偏好仍在下行。英伟达的财报公布完,标志着长达3-4个月的业绩信息空窗期正式开始。
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11-22
$Meta Platforms, Inc.(META)$
看到曾经的这些质疑就觉得好笑,现在看来这边的人的水平也就拉胯
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11-22
$Meta Platforms, Inc.(META)$
之前的高位做空,我是不能理解之前七百多的时候为什么还会有人冲进去做多
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11-04
$英伟达(NVDA)$
英伟达这估值绝对的泡沫高估,利润不可能持续增长,资产规模也撑不起市值,加上美股大盘的风险
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10-25
宇树科技的股份属于是被贱卖了啊这是
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10-20
$拼多多(PDD)$
没想到之前投资的科技公司开始注册分公司了[惊讶]
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09-17
$瑞幸咖啡(LKNCY)$
瑞幸这是要创新高啊[惊讶]
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09-09
$阿里巴巴(BABA)$
其实芒格对于阿里没判断错,只是他看不到了
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开眼界了,一天涨成这样[呆住]
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src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c8833fb8082075d4ce496b60dd2cdc70\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"421\"/></p><p><strong>因此,9月就业数据虽然“喜忧参半”,但整体还算相对平稳。</strong>至少做到了“有好消息也有坏消息”,使得“鸽”派和“鹰”派都有充足的论据支持,因此短期内不太能缓解美联储内部对于降息的分歧。但考虑到后续缺乏完整的官方经济数据,11月报告将延迟至12月16日发布,晚于FOMC会议时间,而美联储在9月和10月已经连续降息,12月再次降息的决策变得更加困难。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1d510501bd453bc61f71399499ebe107\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"803\"/></p><p><strong>资产端的走势也反映出了市场对9月数据的纠结</strong>,数据公布后,利率敏感型资产如美元、美债利率、黄金反复上下横跳,但最终变动不大。<strong>而风险资产却呈现显著降温,比特币跌破9万美元,美股则在高开后大幅跳水,创下四月对等关税以来盘中最大逆转,</strong>英伟达财报的超预期并未挽救美股颓势,海外市场风险偏好仍在下行。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e5d8065fe7929a3455e0057dd9cfa0f4\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"424\"/></p><p><strong>那么,如何理解这半个月以来海外市场的风偏下降,后续的市场又怎么看呢?</strong>当市场忙着为下跌找原因的时候,市场也许只是想找个原因下跌。整体上无非就两个理由:一、担忧AI资本开支增速与ROIC无法收敛(动物精神);二、担心美联储的降息空间。这两点(联储要宽松,AI投资火热,其实就是典型的金发女郎经济)正是十月政府关门到市场高点阶段的最重要助推器,可谓成也萧何,败也萧何。无论是经济的坏消息还是好消息似乎都能被市场交易为好消息,而风险就在于经济数据如果不上不下,因为这样既会让市场担心AI下游需求,又没有货币宽松的支持。<strong>一句话说,经济不好不坏变成了当下最差的情景。</strong></p><p><strong>回过头来看,43天的政府关门带来了一个宏观交易的空窗期,</strong>而勤奋的交易者们把原本三季报之后业绩空窗期中所有的潜在利好全部提前咀嚼一遍了(原本这个阶段宏观信息对市场的影响应该是显著的,包括关税对通胀的影响以及失业走弱的可持续性验证)。英伟达的财报公布完,标志着长达3-4个月的业绩信息空窗期正式开始。市场短时间内找不到新的材料来炒作,那么调整似乎才是对高估值的尊重,当然过度担心似乎也没有必要。</p><p><strong>宏观信息的回归会成为新的助推器吗?</strong>我们认为有难度,回到关门前我们对美国通胀和非农的基本判断:通胀在高关税商品9月逐渐摆上货架之后,未来一年同比读数都至少很难持续下降;与此同时,非农数据的季调方法也让年底的这几个月的新增就业人数读数可能偏高。其实降息到目前这个状态距离联储点阵图给的本轮降息终点(中性利率)已经不远。<strong>未来需要更坏的消息才能让联储回心转意,至少在明年的人事变动之前。</strong></p></body></html>","source":"lsy1582083733592","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" 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