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贾跃亭造车有走不完的“里程碑”

虎嗅2021-11-12

当我们看法拉第未来和其他造车新势力的社交媒体账号时，会产生一种对时间流速的质疑。在新势力的微博上，时间的流动似乎更快，而在法拉第未来的微博上，时间过的很慢，甚至会有偶尔的暂停和回流。本周，法拉第未来在微博上宣布其处于汉福德的工厂获得最终生产使用资质，其将这一事件视为接近量产的又一里程碑。此时距离FF成立已过去7年。几个网友在下面评论：“恭喜，加油量产”。往前翻三年，在FF宣布产出白车身的微博下面...

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客轮旁的大头菜_9582
·2021-11-16
逆境而生必有不同。
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乔治华盛顿
·2021-11-14
贾跃亭应该转行讲故事，讲的让你窒息
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nichola_7690
·2021-11-14
搞台样车，还想收割中国韭菜
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Zzzx
·2021-11-13
一个没有信的人，没有人信
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mjng
·2021-11-13
Great
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Sinlin
·2021-11-13
债权人在地狱痴痴奢望，债务人在天堂美美美眉。
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Sam Ang
·2021-11-13
阅
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danaodai
·2021-11-13
大家都误会贾老板了，他一定是在悄咪咪地搞曲速引擎汽车，三年五年根本不算久
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SHIRAN
·2021-11-13
贾会计讲故事，无非是在刷存在感，呵呵呵呵
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BP小林
·2021-11-13
G
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孙sir
·2021-11-13
看评论真搞笑，明明就是一个骗子，却被说成英雄，国内贾跃亭坑了多少投资者的钱心里没点数？现在他的FF已经成了一个资本不得不帮他圆谎话，谁都知道他说谎，但谁都不去揭穿他，击鼓传花，雷到最后接手的那个人而已！贾跃亭就是个不折不扣的骗子加无赖而已
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- 孙sir:
  不是为了财富那是真的假，他是个商人，之所以这么说完全是因为他确实创造不了财富，然后资本为了解套把他包装成孤胆英雄而已
  2021-11-13
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- 孙sir:
  他之所以在他富贵的时候造车完全是被他的狗头军师忽悠了。他可能看到了趋势，但却不知道这里面的水深，干了远超出他能力的事
  2021-11-13
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- 银河小铁骑00:
  贾跃亭造车不是为了财富，格局确实是有的，只是经济基础没有支撑的起他的梦想。
  2021-11-13
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韭菜一般
·2021-11-13
卖故事。
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骑牛冲冲冲
·2021-11-12
贾跃亭可以说是国内造车新势力的祖宗了，只可惜时运不济，**的倒台，导致了他融资链的断裂。到如今，华为不说，就连小米也开始造车、房企恒大的PPT车也开始量产。以成败论英雄，可悲可叹……
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- Mr凡凡:
  他再不发车，恒大PPT车都要出来干翻他了
  2021-11-15
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- 月漫西楼:
  所以说中国没有任何一家企业可以挺过两代，因为都是朝秦暮楚，追着钱臭味跑，到头来一无所有
  2021-11-13
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- 灯塔国02:
  梦想太大，经济实力太小，经济基础撑不起上层建筑的典型。
  2021-11-13
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nick88
·2021-11-12
下周回国贾会计
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