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蚂蚁集团IPO推迟疑云

风云资本界2020-10-14

“巨无霸”蚂蚁集团可能延期上市，这一话题立即登上热搜引爆网络。两个月前，蚂蚁集团向港交所和上交所递交招股书之际。投行人士纷纷预期，“蚂蚁集团在10月份就可能完成上市”。如今，10月即将过半，蚂蚁集团的IPO却无最新进展。相反，近日有多家媒体曝出“蚂蚁集团因战配基金遭监管调查而被推迟IPO”的消息。尔后，又有不同声音指出，可能是窗口、利益分配等问题导致IPO推迟。真相究竟是什么？蚂蚁战配基金...

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小散老俞
·2020-10-17
什么时候招股呀
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zj水货
·2020-10-15
别上市，将是股市的灾难
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  2020-10-15
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臭皮猫
·2020-10-15
都是坑三年前说cdr什么独角兽回来上市结果大家都买了之后至今杳无音信几个基金其中收益年化10%左右算不错的了什么玩意儿
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易多多
·2020-10-15
坚定的支付宝支持者路过
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北京的北极熊
·2020-10-15
接盘基金
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致富李财记
·2020-10-15
参与了500块。哈哈
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faysl
·2020-10-15
最新经济学人有报道的
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- gugu:
  观点是什么？
  2020-10-15
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之水无
·2020-10-15
银行自己不求上进，坐吃山空，不根据时代进步而进行适当改革。现在时代和适应时代的互联网公司支付宝、腾讯等自身适应性变革，而银行又眼红，逆时代潮流而动，真是不为人民服务，不适应时代发展，人民需求而动，反而只顾自身利益
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林冲哥哥
·2020-10-15
只许州官放火，不许百姓点灯
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嫑賣C
·2020-10-15
600亿战略配售基金，有多少是打算用来持仓蚂蚁股票的呢？封闭期还是18个月，这个太久了，风险未知，有知道的吗？
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chrisleeali
·2020-10-15
利益纠葛
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小小小小虎兔
·2020-10-14
眼疾。有人眼红了
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一盖
·2020-10-14
自家基金销售自家股票确实不合规，不能因为你是蚂蚁就可以特殊，群众的眼睛是雪亮的，况且也不是一般的群众，银行是随便可以招惹的吗
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新手_不会炒股
·2020-10-14
想赚马云的钱挺难！
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仟里行
·2020-10-14
又不缺钱，上市干嘛呀
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- Jehovah:
  想变现啊
  2020-10-15
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hujun
·2020-10-14
没有诚意来隔十米十米大长镰刀。不选14年。一八年底上市。
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Hsiaolung_Wa
·2020-10-14
4只其实没有卖完啊！
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我就是阿硕
·2020-10-14
蓝二代三代？作妖吗？
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