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- AnjerinAnjerin
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- AnjerinAnjerin
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  Uber and Lyft are staging a ridiculous race for fake profits<blockquote>优步和Lyft正在上演一场荒谬的虚假利润竞赛</blockquote>
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Uber&nbsp;reported a steeper adjusted net loss than Wall Street had expected&nbsp;for the second quarter, while still promising to show green on its balance sheet — but also on an adjusted-Ebitda basis by the end of the year.</p><p><blockquote>当两家网约车公司本周公布财报时，由于大幅削减成本，Lyft设法显示出积极的调整后 Ebitda 业绩，这是一个长期目标。Uber 公布的第二季度调整后净亏损高于华尔街预期，但仍承诺在年底前实现资产负债表上的盈利，而且调整后的 Ebitda 也将实现盈利。</blockquote></p><p> While both companies continue to tell investors that reaching that goal shows “profitability,” it most certainly does not — the ride-hailing companies have continued to prove that their business is not profitable and most likely will not be as currently constructed. Both companies demonstrated their expensive issues with their recent results, even as they continue to fight to keep their drivers around the world as independent contractors to avoid the ever increasing costs of having employees.</p><p><blockquote>虽然两家公司都继续告诉投资者，实现这一目标就能显示出 “盈利能力”，但事实肯定并非如此--网约车公司不断证明，他们的业务并不盈利，而且很可能不会像目前那样发展。两家公司最近的业绩都证明了他们昂贵的问题，尽管他们继续努力让世界各地的司机保持独立承包商的身份，以避免不断增加的员工成本。</blockquote></p><p> Uber and Lyft have been spending heartily to attract more drivers lately as the delta variant of COVID-19 spreads. In early April,Uber unveiled a plan to spend $250 million&nbsp;to lure drivers back to the platform by giving them bonuses, as the pandemic seemed as if it were starting to ease up. Lyft said in its conference call that it spent $375 million in incentives that it classified as “contra revenue,” and it expects that the “contra revenue” will exceed $376 million in the third quarter.</p><p><blockquote>随着 COVID-19 的三角洲变种的传播，优步和Lyft最近一直在大力投入资金来吸引更多司机。4月初，Uber公布了一项计划，斥资2.5亿美元，通过向司机发放奖金来吸引他们重返该平台，因为疫情似乎开始缓解。Lyft在电话会议中表示，该公司在激励措施上花费了 3.75 亿美元，并将其归类为 “反收入 ”，预计第三季度 “反收入 ”将超过 3.76 亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> “No one can predict what’s going to happen with delta going forward,” Uber Chief Executive Dara Khosrowshahi told analysts when asked about its impact on the ride-hailing business. “But so far, we’re hedged and the trends that we’re seeing are pretty good.”</p><p><blockquote>“当被问及达美航空对打车业务的影响时，Uber 首席执行官达拉-科斯罗萨希（Dara Khosrowshahi）对分析师说：”没有人能预测达美航空未来会发生什么。“但到目前为止，我们已经进行了对冲，我们看到的趋势相当不错。”</blockquote></p><p> Uber is hedged with its Uber Eats business, which saw a huge surge of growth during the pandemic delivering restaurant meals to consumers while the rides business slowed down, but that business also has not shown itself to be profitable. Lyft does not have such a large additional business, and its stock tumbled after its earnings Tuesday&nbsp;over investor jitters about its outlook.</p><p><blockquote>Uber 用其 Uber Eats 业务进行了对冲，该业务在大流行期间为消费者提供餐厅餐食的业务大幅增长，而乘车业务则放缓，但该业务也没有证明自己是盈利的。Lyft没有如此大的额外业务，由于投资者对其前景感到不安，其股价在周二公布财报后暴跌。</blockquote></p><p> These types of costs will not disappear once the pandemic calms down. For example, the state of&nbsp;California is going to require nearly all ride-sharing vehicles to be electric by 2030, raising the huge question of who is going to pay for that transition, since drivers own their own cars. The federal government has its eyes on the practices of the gig economy, and could force changes that will increase costs, while Uber and Lyft tout a “third way” that they have proved in California will also require higher costs.</p><p><blockquote>一旦疫情平静下来，这些类型的成本不会消失。例如，加利福尼亚州将要求到 2030 年几乎所有拼车车辆都是电动汽车，这引发了一个巨大的问题，即谁将为这一转变买单，因为司机拥有自己的汽车。联邦政府正密切关注零工经济的做法，并可能迫使改变，从而增加成本，而 Uber 和Lyft则吹捧 “第三种方式”，他们在加州证明了这种方式也需要更高的成本。</blockquote></p><p> It would appear that the only way these companies will be able to show any profit figure, no matter how far from actual net income, is to cut.Last year, at the height of the pandemic, both companies shed jobs as part of their cost slashing.Uber cut about 6,700 jobs&nbsp;and&nbsp;Lyft laid off 1,000 employees, furloughing an additional 288.Uber has also been excising money-losing businesses, such as the divestiture of its self-driving unit.</p><p><blockquote>看来，这些公司能够显示任何利润数字的唯一方法，无论与实际净利润相差多远，就是削减。去年，在疫情最严重的时候，两家公司都裁员，作为削减成本的一部分。 Uber 裁员约 6,700 人，Lyft裁员 1,000 人，另有 288 人休假。 Uber 还一直在削减亏损业务，例如剥离其自动驾驶部门。</blockquote></p><p> Uber actually showed its second quarter of GAAP profitability as a public company Thursday, and for the second time, it was because of a paper gain on its investment in Chinese rival Didi Global Inc..That investment added a whopping $1.4 billion to the balance sheet because Uber valued it on June 30, just after&nbsp;an initial public offering that valued Didi highly&nbsp;but before&nbsp;actions by China took the shares down&nbsp;more than 50%.</p><p><blockquote>周四，Uber 实际上公布了作为一家上市公司的第二季度 GAAP 盈利能力，这是第二次，这是因为其对中国竞争对手滴滴全球公司的投资获得了账面收益。这项投资为资产负债表增加了高达 14 亿美元，因为 Uber 在 6 月 30 日对其进行了估值，就在首次公开募股之后，滴滴的估值很高，但在中国采取行动导致其股价下跌超过 50% 之前。</blockquote></p><p> No matter how many paper gains recorded or cuts the companies make — and expect Uber to announce more ahead of its must-prove fourth-quarter results — or costs they try to shove onto their gig workers, including car ownership, neither Lyft nor Uber look to be any closer to actual GAAP profitability.</p><p><blockquote>无论这些公司记录了多少账面收益或裁员——并预计 Uber 将在其必须证明的第四季度业绩之前宣布更多消息——或者他们试图将成本强加给临时工，包括汽车所有权，Lyft和 Uber 看起来都不会更接近实际的 GAAP 盈利能力。</blockquote></p><p> Uber and Lyft stocks are discounted, both lower than what they charged in their respective 2019 initial public offerings: Uber is closer to its $45 IPO price, closing at $43.07 on Thursday, while Lyft is trading about 33% lower than its IPO price.</p><p><blockquote>Uber 和Lyft的股票都有折扣，均低于各自 2019 年首次公开募股的价格：Uber 接近 45 美元的 IPO 价格，周四收于 43.07 美元，而Lyft的股价比其 IPO 价格低约 33%。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> After two-plus years as public companies that each reap billions of dollars in revenue with popular services for consumers, one might assume that Uber and Lyft might be closer to actual profitability. The lower stock prices give investors a potential opportunity to buy in, but if you do, don’t expect to see actual profit anytime soon.</p><p><blockquote>作为上市公司，两年多以来，优步和Lyft都通过为消费者提供受欢迎的服务获得了数十亿美元的收入，人们可能会认为优步和Lyft可能更接近实际盈利。较低的股价为投资者提供了潜在的买入机会，但如果你买入，也不要指望很快就能看到实际利润。</blockquote></p><p></p>","source":"lsy1603348471595","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Uber and Lyft are staging a ridiculous race for fake profits<blockquote>优步和Lyft正在上演一场荒谬的虚假利润竞赛</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nUber and Lyft are staging a ridiculous race for fake profits<blockquote>优步和Lyft正在上演一场荒谬的虚假利润竞赛</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">MarketWatch</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-08-06 09:44</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Lyft finally showed positive adjusted Ebitda in the second quarter, while Uber promises it by the end of the year, but none of it is worth cheering as companies continue to run businesses with little hope of turning an actual profit anytime soon</p><p><blockquote>Lyft终于在第二季度显示出正的调整后 Ebitda，而 Uber 则承诺在今年年底前实现这一目标，但这些都不值得欢呼，因为公司继续开展业务，几乎没有希望很快实现实际利润</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c1ac2b3a2871ea61cbb1975f552e20e5\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>It appears that the only way Uber and Lyft will be able to show any actual profit figure is to cut.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>看来优步和Lyft能够显示任何实际利润数字的唯一方法就是削减。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Uber Technologies Inc. and Lyft Inc. are racing to prove to investors that they can be “profitable,” so expect even more cuts and made-up metrics on the road ahead.</p><p><blockquote>优步科技公司（Uber Technologies Inc.）和Lyft公司（Microsoft Inc.</blockquote></p><p> When the two ride-hailing companies reported earnings this week, Lyft&nbsp;managed to show positive adjusted Ebitda results, a longstanding goal, thanks to immense cost-cutting. Uber&nbsp;reported a steeper adjusted net loss than Wall Street had expected&nbsp;for the second quarter, while still promising to show green on its balance sheet — but also on an adjusted-Ebitda basis by the end of the year.</p><p><blockquote>当两家网约车公司本周公布财报时，由于大幅削减成本，Lyft设法显示出积极的调整后 Ebitda 业绩，这是一个长期目标。Uber 公布的第二季度调整后净亏损高于华尔街预期，但仍承诺在年底前实现资产负债表上的盈利，而且调整后的 Ebitda 也将实现盈利。</blockquote></p><p> While both companies continue to tell investors that reaching that goal shows “profitability,” it most certainly does not — the ride-hailing companies have continued to prove that their business is not profitable and most likely will not be as currently constructed. Both companies demonstrated their expensive issues with their recent results, even as they continue to fight to keep their drivers around the world as independent contractors to avoid the ever increasing costs of having employees.</p><p><blockquote>虽然两家公司都继续告诉投资者，实现这一目标就能显示出 “盈利能力”，但事实肯定并非如此--网约车公司不断证明，他们的业务并不盈利，而且很可能不会像目前那样发展。两家公司最近的业绩都证明了他们昂贵的问题，尽管他们继续努力让世界各地的司机保持独立承包商的身份，以避免不断增加的员工成本。</blockquote></p><p> Uber and Lyft have been spending heartily to attract more drivers lately as the delta variant of COVID-19 spreads. In early April,Uber unveiled a plan to spend $250 million&nbsp;to lure drivers back to the platform by giving them bonuses, as the pandemic seemed as if it were starting to ease up. Lyft said in its conference call that it spent $375 million in incentives that it classified as “contra revenue,” and it expects that the “contra revenue” will exceed $376 million in the third quarter.</p><p><blockquote>随着 COVID-19 的三角洲变种的传播，优步和Lyft最近一直在大力投入资金来吸引更多司机。4月初，Uber公布了一项计划，斥资2.5亿美元，通过向司机发放奖金来吸引他们重返该平台，因为疫情似乎开始缓解。Lyft在电话会议中表示，该公司在激励措施上花费了 3.75 亿美元，并将其归类为 “反收入 ”，预计第三季度 “反收入 ”将超过 3.76 亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> “No one can predict what’s going to happen with delta going forward,” Uber Chief Executive Dara Khosrowshahi told analysts when asked about its impact on the ride-hailing business. “But so far, we’re hedged and the trends that we’re seeing are pretty good.”</p><p><blockquote>“当被问及达美航空对打车业务的影响时，Uber 首席执行官达拉-科斯罗萨希（Dara Khosrowshahi）对分析师说：”没有人能预测达美航空未来会发生什么。“但到目前为止，我们已经进行了对冲，我们看到的趋势相当不错。”</blockquote></p><p> Uber is hedged with its Uber Eats business, which saw a huge surge of growth during the pandemic delivering restaurant meals to consumers while the rides business slowed down, but that business also has not shown itself to be profitable. Lyft does not have such a large additional business, and its stock tumbled after its earnings Tuesday&nbsp;over investor jitters about its outlook.</p><p><blockquote>Uber 用其 Uber Eats 业务进行了对冲，该业务在大流行期间为消费者提供餐厅餐食的业务大幅增长，而乘车业务则放缓，但该业务也没有证明自己是盈利的。Lyft没有如此大的额外业务，由于投资者对其前景感到不安，其股价在周二公布财报后暴跌。</blockquote></p><p> These types of costs will not disappear once the pandemic calms down. For example, the state of&nbsp;California is going to require nearly all ride-sharing vehicles to be electric by 2030, raising the huge question of who is going to pay for that transition, since drivers own their own cars. The federal government has its eyes on the practices of the gig economy, and could force changes that will increase costs, while Uber and Lyft tout a “third way” that they have proved in California will also require higher costs.</p><p><blockquote>一旦疫情平静下来，这些类型的成本不会消失。例如，加利福尼亚州将要求到 2030 年几乎所有拼车车辆都是电动汽车，这引发了一个巨大的问题，即谁将为这一转变买单，因为司机拥有自己的汽车。联邦政府正密切关注零工经济的做法，并可能迫使改变，从而增加成本，而 Uber 和Lyft则吹捧 “第三种方式”，他们在加州证明了这种方式也需要更高的成本。</blockquote></p><p> It would appear that the only way these companies will be able to show any profit figure, no matter how far from actual net income, is to cut.Last year, at the height of the pandemic, both companies shed jobs as part of their cost slashing.Uber cut about 6,700 jobs&nbsp;and&nbsp;Lyft laid off 1,000 employees, furloughing an additional 288.Uber has also been excising money-losing businesses, such as the divestiture of its self-driving unit.</p><p><blockquote>看来，这些公司能够显示任何利润数字的唯一方法，无论与实际净利润相差多远，就是削减。去年，在疫情最严重的时候，两家公司都裁员，作为削减成本的一部分。 Uber 裁员约 6,700 人，Lyft裁员 1,000 人，另有 288 人休假。 Uber 还一直在削减亏损业务，例如剥离其自动驾驶部门。</blockquote></p><p> Uber actually showed its second quarter of GAAP profitability as a public company Thursday, and for the second time, it was because of a paper gain on its investment in Chinese rival Didi Global Inc..That investment added a whopping $1.4 billion to the balance sheet because Uber valued it on June 30, just after&nbsp;an initial public offering that valued Didi highly&nbsp;but before&nbsp;actions by China took the shares down&nbsp;more than 50%.</p><p><blockquote>周四，Uber 实际上公布了作为一家上市公司的第二季度 GAAP 盈利能力，这是第二次，这是因为其对中国竞争对手滴滴全球公司的投资获得了账面收益。这项投资为资产负债表增加了高达 14 亿美元，因为 Uber 在 6 月 30 日对其进行了估值，就在首次公开募股之后，滴滴的估值很高，但在中国采取行动导致其股价下跌超过 50% 之前。</blockquote></p><p> No matter how many paper gains recorded or cuts the companies make — and expect Uber to announce more ahead of its must-prove fourth-quarter results — or costs they try to shove onto their gig workers, including car ownership, neither Lyft nor Uber look to be any closer to actual GAAP profitability.</p><p><blockquote>无论这些公司记录了多少账面收益或裁员——并预计 Uber 将在其必须证明的第四季度业绩之前宣布更多消息——或者他们试图将成本强加给临时工，包括汽车所有权，Lyft和 Uber 看起来都不会更接近实际的 GAAP 盈利能力。</blockquote></p><p> Uber and Lyft stocks are discounted, both lower than what they charged in their respective 2019 initial public offerings: Uber is closer to its $45 IPO price, closing at $43.07 on Thursday, while Lyft is trading about 33% lower than its IPO price.</p><p><blockquote>Uber 和Lyft的股票都有折扣，均低于各自 2019 年首次公开募股的价格：Uber 接近 45 美元的 IPO 价格，周四收于 43.07 美元，而Lyft的股价比其 IPO 价格低约 33%。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> After two-plus years as public companies that each reap billions of dollars in revenue with popular services for consumers, one might assume that Uber and Lyft might be closer to actual profitability. The lower stock prices give investors a potential opportunity to buy in, but if you do, don’t expect to see actual profit anytime soon.</p><p><blockquote>作为上市公司，两年多以来，优步和Lyft都通过为消费者提供受欢迎的服务获得了数十亿美元的收入，人们可能会认为优步和Lyft可能更接近实际盈利。较低的股价为投资者提供了潜在的买入机会，但如果你买入，也不要指望很快就能看到实际利润。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源：<a href=\"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/uber-and-lyft-are-staging-a-ridiculous-race-for-fake-profits-11628205337?mod=home-page\">MarketWatch</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"UBER":"优步","LYFT":"Lyft, Inc."},"source_url":"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/uber-and-lyft-are-staging-a-ridiculous-race-for-fake-profits-11628205337?mod=home-page","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1135807500","content_text":"Lyft finally showed positive adjusted Ebitda in the second quarter, while Uber promises it by the end of the year, but none of it is worth cheering as companies continue to run businesses with little hope of turning an actual profit anytime soon\nIt appears that the only way Uber and Lyft will be able to show any actual profit figure is to cut.\nUber Technologies Inc. and Lyft Inc. are racing to prove to investors that they can be “profitable,” so expect even more cuts and made-up metrics on the road ahead.\nWhen the two ride-hailing companies reported earnings this week, Lyft managed to show positive adjusted Ebitda results, a longstanding goal, thanks to immense cost-cutting. Uber reported a steeper adjusted net loss than Wall Street had expected for the second quarter, while still promising to show green on its balance sheet — but also on an adjusted-Ebitda basis by the end of the year.\nWhile both companies continue to tell investors that reaching that goal shows “profitability,” it most certainly does not — the ride-hailing companies have continued to prove that their business is not profitable and most likely will not be as currently constructed. Both companies demonstrated their expensive issues with their recent results, even as they continue to fight to keep their drivers around the world as independent contractors to avoid the ever increasing costs of having employees.\nUber and Lyft have been spending heartily to attract more drivers lately as the delta variant of COVID-19 spreads. In early April,Uber unveiled a plan to spend $250 million to lure drivers back to the platform by giving them bonuses, as the pandemic seemed as if it were starting to ease up. Lyft said in its conference call that it spent $375 million in incentives that it classified as “contra revenue,” and it expects that the “contra revenue” will exceed $376 million in the third quarter.\n“No one can predict what’s going to happen with delta going forward,” Uber Chief Executive Dara Khosrowshahi told analysts when asked about its impact on the ride-hailing business. “But so far, we’re hedged and the trends that we’re seeing are pretty good.”\nUber is hedged with its Uber Eats business, which saw a huge surge of growth during the pandemic delivering restaurant meals to consumers while the rides business slowed down, but that business also has not shown itself to be profitable. Lyft does not have such a large additional business, and its stock tumbled after its earnings Tuesday over investor jitters about its outlook.\nThese types of costs will not disappear once the pandemic calms down. For example, the state of California is going to require nearly all ride-sharing vehicles to be electric by 2030, raising the huge question of who is going to pay for that transition, since drivers own their own cars. The federal government has its eyes on the practices of the gig economy, and could force changes that will increase costs, while Uber and Lyft tout a “third way” that they have proved in California will also require higher costs.\nIt would appear that the only way these companies will be able to show any profit figure, no matter how far from actual net income, is to cut.Last year, at the height of the pandemic, both companies shed jobs as part of their cost slashing.Uber cut about 6,700 jobs and Lyft laid off 1,000 employees, furloughing an additional 288.Uber has also been excising money-losing businesses, such as the divestiture of its self-driving unit.\nUber actually showed its second quarter of GAAP profitability as a public company Thursday, and for the second time, it was because of a paper gain on its investment in Chinese rival Didi Global Inc..That investment added a whopping $1.4 billion to the balance sheet because Uber valued it on June 30, just after an initial public offering that valued Didi highly but before actions by China took the shares down more than 50%.\nNo matter how many paper gains recorded or cuts the companies make — and expect Uber to announce more ahead of its must-prove fourth-quarter results — or costs they try to shove onto their gig workers, including car ownership, neither Lyft nor Uber look to be any closer to actual GAAP profitability.\nUber and Lyft stocks are discounted, both lower than what they charged in their respective 2019 initial public offerings: Uber is closer to its $45 IPO price, closing at $43.07 on Thursday, while Lyft is trading about 33% lower than its IPO price.\nAfter two-plus years as public companies that each reap billions of dollars in revenue with popular services for consumers, one might assume that Uber and Lyft might be closer to actual profitability. 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