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特斯拉VS蔚来、理想、小鹏：“渣男”与“备胎”的战役

汽车公社2020-10-21

多月之前，当特斯拉国产Model 3在短时间内频繁进行“官降”，致使老车主利益受到严重损失时，有人曾在微博对前者做出了这样的评价：当下的特斯拉就像一位渣男，迷人、危险、不负责任，但是依然令人又爱又恨；而中国部分新势力造车以及传统新能源车企，相比特斯拉就像一位备胎，对你无条件的好，默默等待那些被前者伤害过的人。从感性考虑，必须承认如此比喻有那么几分道理，特斯拉目前给予我们的形象好似就是如此。甚至有时...

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盛世Hello
·2020-10-21
有什么理由不让人家降价啊！！！你早买了早享受了啊。是不是汽车只有越来越贵才是尊重车主啊。那个捷达，不也是一直降价吗？塑料那么便宜，为什么还要那么高的利润啊！！！
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问题永远不大
·2020-10-21
又是一波割韭菜
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ISABELLA
·2020-10-21
一切抹黑特斯拉的垃圾文，都是耍流氓。
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Ivan_甘灿荣
·2020-10-21
早买早享受，迟买多折扣[得意]
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- OrderFlow:
  早买早亏😂
  2020-10-22
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h还是h
·2020-10-21
这种文章绝对不怀好意
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h还是h
·2020-10-21
不怀好意的文章
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查尔其斤
·2020-10-21
其实在降价问题上批评特斯拉有点过了，Elon Musk 在多年前的TED访谈节目中就说过，刚出来的特斯拉会贵一点，等规模大了之后就会降价
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笨笨2021
·2020-10-21
蔚来理想会合并？
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XBBa
·2020-10-21
哈哈，所以房价不能跌，还要涨
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- 一点恩:
  老铁方便加个v交流交流吗
  2021-02-19
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upup58
·2020-10-21
多读一读特斯拉传，看看电动汽车相关纪录片，了解全面一些，再写文章，否则只暴露无知和浅薄。
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SHIFT_小明
·2020-10-21
我不管，反正股价别跌就行😁
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- 社区成长助手:
  终于等到了您的初发帖[比心][比心]发帖时关联相关股票或者相关话题，可以获得更多曝光哦～如果您想创作优质文章，请查看老虎社区创作指引
  2020-10-21
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levin911
·2020-10-21
降价也是错做企业真挺难的。
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- 社区成长助手:
  终于等到了您的初发帖[比心][比心]发帖时关联相关股票或者相关话题，可以获得更多曝光哦～如果您想创作优质文章，请查看老虎社区创作指引
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Baro___
·2020-10-21
这神仙逻辑和房子降价大闹开发商的大妈一模一样
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哈利波特長
·2020-10-21
特斯拉就是来赚我们钱的，难道你们认为他是来撒币的？人家是商人啊，利益至上
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osui
·2020-10-21
只需涨价不许降价[喷血] [喷血] [喷血]
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Fred_6810
·2020-10-21
这种竞争对手的智商欠费太严重了，就一个low。在任何一个专业角度，都不成立的逻辑，小编发了n遍。专业性太烂。受不了
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ElbertWu
·2020-10-21
良心公司特斯拉
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一直胡作非为
·2020-10-21
这个水平也配写文章？
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风_1364
·2020-10-21
把降价说成是“对刚提车的消费者的不尊重，也对更多老车主造成了切身利益的伤害” 这是什么神仙逻辑……
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- 秋哥:
  嗨，看你属于价值投资。想加个好友学习交流下哈，我今年也有两只十倍股
  2020-10-21
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3长续航后轮驱动版售价从34.405万元调降至30.99万元。而这距离上一次调价，也仅仅过去不到5个月的时间。当时国产Model 3标准续航升级版补贴前售价由32.38万元降至29.18万元，在成功进入“30万元”门槛，享受新能源车补贴后，最终购买价格降至27.155万。老实说，从全新车主角度来看，愈发低廉的价格的确带来了更具性价比的产品。但是不禁反问，对于那些刚刚提车不久的老车主呢，这样毫无预兆、甚至略带隐瞒意味的“官降”又算得了什么？“我是9月初提的标准续航版Model 3，当时对接销售也并未告知今年是否会再次降价，所以考虑到用车需求，就决定买了，但是十一看到突然降价两万多，深深感觉到自己被欺骗了。”这是发生在我身边一位女性朋友的真实案例。与她相同的是，此次特斯拉的突袭式降价没有任何预兆，很多消费者在一月前提车，不料放假第一天就蒙受几万元的损失，心情就此跌至低谷。而这也反映出“渣男”特斯拉的绝情，永远以自身利益与销量为目的，全然不顾现有车主的情绪。并且一年内多次“突袭式”降价，致使购买车辆贬值速度超出预期，不仅是对刚提车的消费者的不尊重，也对更多老车主造成了切身利益的伤害。“火急火燎”的起跑线之争看到这里，不禁反问特斯拉进入2020年后，火急火燎地进行多次官降，究竟是出于什么原因？答案或许和马斯克对中国市场的野心勃勃与特斯拉极致的追求速度，妄图给予国内品牌毁灭性打击有关。凭心而论，自特斯拉进入中国后，无论从自建工厂，还是Model 3下线国产上市，其动作可以用“神速”来形容。回想起上海制造基地落成仪式上，马斯克“尬舞”的样子，再看看中国制造Model 3仓促交付后曝出的各种质量问题，可见其对“速度”的追求胜于一切，甚至可以放弃一些本该重要的东西。同样，“神速”的还有特斯拉降价的速度。从去年至今，国产Model 3终端销量实现了质的提升，其价格也在今年经历三连降。尽管冒着老车主大面积维权，甚至拿着“韭菜”亲自进店声讨的地步，但仍未浇灭特斯拉“滑梯式降价”的决心。那么特斯拉为什么如此看重“速度”？是马斯克想要赶在中国补贴政策彻底退坡之前尽可能多卖车吗？相比于特斯拉对于中国市场的野望，显然不是主要目的。况且2020年的补贴数额，对于30万元级别车型的购买决策，影响已是日渐式微。真正让特斯拉不顾口碑崩塌风险，火急火燎地推出Model 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