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- 伊祁放勋伊祁放勋
  ·01-19
  亚马逊去年受关税风波影响很大！
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- 伊祁放勋伊祁放勋
  ·2025-09-05
  我叫啥名字来着？
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- 伊祁放勋伊祁放勋
  ·2025-08-29
  知乎的半佛仙人？
  外卖战火越猛，阿里笑的越疯
  这次烧钱大战，给阿里烧的笑起来了。
  外卖战火越猛，阿里笑的越疯
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- 伊祁放勋伊祁放勋
  ·2025-08-23
  大跌的时候仓位锁死了，只买了一个call。
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- 伊祁放勋伊祁放勋
  ·2025-08-08
  这些新消费股票，个个都不开期权。谁能详细分析下个中奥秘？我还是站边上看着吧。
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- 伊祁放勋伊祁放勋
  ·2025-07-31
  Meta大涨12%，双卖可能要亏了。
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- 伊祁放勋伊祁放勋
  ·2025-07-25
  炒作浪潮慢慢过去了，波动率下降，结合老美降息，看低CRCL。
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- 伊祁放勋伊祁放勋
  ·2025-06-24
  十倍申购之类的，太占保证金了，能吃肉的，不让你中签，能中签的，暗盘就跌。
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- 伊祁放勋伊祁放勋
  ·2025-05-27
  国内车厂这么卷，100%通过牺牲质量来降低成本，比亚迪的空调粉，常压油箱可见一斑。还弄了个迪链，这跟恒大的商票不一个意思吗？恒大的商票最后一折出不知道有没人要。我在建筑行业里，给商票的客户停止供货。
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- 伊祁放勋伊祁放勋
  ·2025-05-16
  苹果在全世界卖，在美国生产，怎么跟其他手机品牌竞争？
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tg-height=\"1526\"/><span>图片</span></p><p>为什么之前我就说阿里非常聪明和狠？</p><p>一方面是，他们出手的时候是在红黄打过一轮之后，如果这是一场拳击，那就是在对方力竭换气的一瞬间出拳。</p><p>就这一瞬间的一拳，就会影响比赛走向。</p><p>另一方面，当两方打过一轮算账的时候，再加入，可以让双方都没法脱离战争，不然对方之前就白打了。</p><p>这个白打，不仅仅是算账算不过来了，更关键的是，烧了这么多钱如果白烧了，如此之高的沉没成本，需要有人为之前的决策，负责。</p><p><strong>那么，谁负责？</strong></p><p><strong>付得起责吗？</strong></p><p><strong>所以有些折腾看起来莫名其妙，但必须折腾，因为不折腾，里面就要有人为之前的折腾负责。</strong></p><p>一样的道理，当阿里开始下场砸钱的时候，如果红黄里面没有人想要为此负责，那就必须，烧下去。</p><p>只有这样，才能避免思考之前的责任归谁的问题。</p><p>别管公司了，先管管自己吧。</p><p><strong>2</strong></p><p>如果到这里，阿里仅仅只是聪明。</p><p>更关键的是，为什么要从集团层面出手，不让他们退场？</p><p>这就到了阿里狠的地方了。</p><p>红黄的博弈本身只是商业博弈，是存在一个商业概念的，是有一个商业标准和目的的。</p><p>但凡商业标准，大家其实是数字和差价游戏，算的是赚和赔，有的赚就玩，赚不了就不玩儿。</p><p>而阿里不这么理解。</p><p><strong>在阿里的概念里，这是一场战争。</strong></p><p><strong>是一个重创同行们的好机会。</strong></p><p>过去在外卖领域只是老二，在电商领域老大当的也不稳，尽管自己旗下有很多业务但好像在这俩领域都使不上。</p><p>你没法用钉钉去扎他俩，也没法用阿里云去算计他俩，没法用优酷来勾引他俩，没法用高德去规划他俩，没法用菜鸟的快递丢他俩。</p><p>哎呀好气啊咋办。</p><p><strong>而现在，这双方自己扩大了被打击的可能性，增大了受力面。</strong></p><p><strong>这俩互相进入对方的地盘开始打，那给他们一起上强度的机会来了。</strong></p><p><strong>只要打起来，把人都拖下水，那本质上已经赢了。</strong></p><p>因为整个阿里的所有资源，都可以拿来兑掉他们了，之前不兑是因为只能跟做电商的兑电商，只能跟做外卖的兑外卖，性价比不够高。</p><p>而现在，当双方都进入对方领域的时候，阿里作为第三方，烧钱的性价比就起来了。</p><p><strong>过去烧一块钱，就是烧一块钱。</strong></p><p><strong>现在烧一块钱，同时可以烧到红黄两家的两块业务（即时零售和电商）。</strong></p><p>当烧钱同时可以给他们双线兑子，那么战争的交换就足够有性价比了。</p><p>这不拉满了烧？</p><p>马路上谁都敢欺负下成龙老师70多了，而一旦走进宜家，就是三体人来了也害怕他。</p><p>阿里现在就是，好不容易你们进来了，要把门给锁上，都别跑。</p><p>一起烧。</p><p><strong>3</strong></p><p><strong>再说一遍，这是一场战争。</strong></p><p>战争的逻辑不是赚多少赔多少，不是赚差价，不是的。</p><p>这些只是战术，不是战略，也不是目的。</p><p>战争目的是当年火云邪神说的。</p><blockquote><p>要么打死两位，要么被两位打死。</p></blockquote><p>战争是我先敞开了赔，只要能把你们拉下水，一起赔，那就不算赔。</p><p>这是我之前写过的逻辑，再看看前面三家财报的烧钱数字对比，是不是预言家？<br/></p><p 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