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特斯拉落后五年还嘴硬？马斯克称Waymo没胜算被“打脸”

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【环球网科技综合报道】12月11日，据electrek报道，近日，特斯拉CEO埃隆·马斯克在社交平台发文，称Waymo在自动驾驶领域“从来就没真正有过胜算”，此番言论引发行业热议。而就在其发声前，Waymo刚公布1亿英里无安全员载客里程的里程碑及详实安全数据，与特斯拉的发展现状形成鲜明对比。外媒指出，这场争论源于谷歌DeepMind首席科学家杰夫·迪恩的公开对比。他指出，特斯拉的无安全员自动驾驶...

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·2025-12-11
不考虑未来大范围商业化可行性，就如同在实验室光对比参数，没有实际意义；即没有有竞争力的车身产能，也没有规模优势，成数效应与指数效应，不可同日而语
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不要脸就是无敌
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