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Apple: A True 'Never Sell' Position

Seeking Alpha2021-12-07

Summary With $315B in authorized share buybacks and a 0.6% yield, Apple should return 4.3% on shareholder-friendly practices alone. In addition, the company will still see double-digit growth in ...

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Mei0ng
·2021-12-08
Me buying calls
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KwLau
·2021-12-08
Hold it and do not sell for another 10 yrs.
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手可摘棉花
·2021-12-08
Held this stock for many years. Never once looked back.
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- Sheyik:
  I regret selling at a small profit but yes apple in terms of stock dont disappoint
  2021-12-08
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cching88
·2021-12-08
To the moon!
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Cazwyh
·2021-12-08
Agree!
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1728fd41
·2021-12-08
Yes, indeed.
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DZL
·2021-12-07
Berkshire’s 5.5% portfolio, Apple towards $3T market cap in 2022
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vincentheng8
·2021-12-07
All in
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- vincentheng8:
  all in
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Foreverhuat
·2021-12-07
Oo
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DingDang
·2021-12-07
Buy!
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Kimmy23
·2021-12-07
Apple stock is worth buying but do be careful during this unprecedented time as there are a lot of people who short sell. If you’re a long term investor, you can buy more and keep it. ;)
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- DingDang:
  Ok agre e
  2021-12-07
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Xxxtaengxx
·2021-12-07
Ok
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- Xxxtaengxx:
  Ok
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Charismatic
·2021-12-07
Waiting to buy more
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- Foreverhuat:
  Mmm
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Jennifer58
·2021-12-07
HODL
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- Jennifer58:
  Diamond hand
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SteadyDoesIt
·2021-12-07
Probably right
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- Andtendo:
  Yeap
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Skygeemusic
·2021-12-07
Great
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NPC69
·2021-12-07
K
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NPC69
·2021-12-07
K
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superduper
·2021-12-07
Never sell?
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- cuteypie:
  OK
  2021-12-07
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- tpchng:
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- RisingV:
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While I absolutely wish I would have bought more of this powerhouse in years past, I've made do with incremental gains from dividend reinvestment.\nThe news cycle would have you believe that this behemoth has head-winds galore, and that the downfall could come any day now. With limited risk and potential galore, is the company worth buying today?\nLimited Risk\nImage: Forbes magazine cover, 2007\nI am familiar with cellphone manufacturers of days past. Nokia, for example, used to be the titan of industry. It was thought to be untouchable and then came the iPhone. I mean, just look at the Forbes cover above, \"can anyone catch the cell phone king?\"\nThat cover hit news stands on November 12, 2007, a few months after the iPhone had made its debut. The straw that broke Nokia's back, and the feature which gives Apple a moat wider than Apple Park today, The App Store launched in mid-2008.\nThe App Store, as simple as it may seem, gave Apple the keys to the kingdom. Rather than be limited to the few apps that came on your Nokia device, you could use one of the thousands of apps sold by third-party developers on the iPhone. This was the beginning of a world-beating ecosystem.\nToday, Apple's ecosystem has grown in a significant way. The growth of that ecosystem means that Apple \"fanboys\" would have to spend thousands of dollars, or work through significant inconveniences to switch.\nConsider the user that has subscriptions to several apps, Air Pods, an Apple Watch, iPhone, iPad, and perhaps a MacBook. That person is not an outlier. If they consider switching to Android they'll have to cancel those several apps, throw their Apple Watch out, replace the AirPods, and would lose lots of great tie-in messaging functionality across the iPad and MacBook.\nFirst-world problems, absolutely. The tie-in, however, is real. Apple make world-class products that users love. They get caught up in all the added accessories which deliver a great experience and then they are customers for life.\nApple stock, for all intents and purposes, is a better place to keep your money than cash because of this lack of risk. Should something start to topple this house of cards, it wouldn't happen overnight, and it certainly won't happen as rapidly as it happened to Nokia because of the switching costs Apple has built up.\nEnviable Metrics\nDespite running up against the law of large numbers, Apple continues to look stellar when considering a number of different metrics.\nImage: Apple's debt per 10-K (Page 45)\nThe worst metric, in my opinion, Apple has is a 1.7 debt-to-equity ratio. However, on that figure, my mind may be stuck in a good days of positive interest rates. Much of Apple's $109B of debt is at a negligible (0.03-2%) interest rate. Higher end servicing costs sit a hair below 5%, but this makes up a minority of Apple's debt per the company's 10-K filings.\nData by YCharts\nAll of that money did not go into internal projects, however, it went to share buybacks. Perhaps no company epitomizes share buybacks like Apple has over the last decade. The company has retired hundreds of billions of dollars' worth of stock to shareholders benefit, and it continues to do so today.\nThese share buybacks are why Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.B) now owns 5.5% of Apple. Back when many lauded Buffett for being late to the Apple train, he has proven his conviction worthwhile and helped an already massive Berkshire portfolio continue to beat the market with this high concentration investment.\nBuffett aside, Apple does excel in several metrics one should be looking for when investing in high-quality stocks. Return on equity here sits at an eye-popping 140% due to a pandemic induced expansion in net income.\nData by YCharts\nGiven the amount of debt, return on invested capital, likely, is the better metric to take a look at here. Apple's ROIC has been consistently over the 20% mark, which is a sign of a fantastic business.\nOh, and it probably goes without mentioning, but this business is cash rich. Apple, as of its last report, has $35B in cash on hand and $155B in marketable securities (a mix of current and non-current). With $190B in capital that the company can still deploy, Apple is certainly in an enviable position.\nValuation: Rich\nThose metrics are not unknown, but they are incredible. It's no surprise that Apple will likely cross $3T market cap in the next year or so, but is the company worth buying at these high levels?\nAs mentioned above, I view Apple as an almost cash like position. In a world of inflation, Apple has the balance sheet to carry it through, it has significant pricing power, and it has exceptionally high margins on its products to be able to weather the storm. Would you rather your money lose 5% of its buying power per year, or grow in an American titan like Apple?\nImage: A mockup VR headset via BGR\nA valuation of Apple also has to include the potential for an Apple Car, or the AR/VR headsets that will be with us within the next 18-months. These types of projects have been kept well under wraps, but considering the valuations of EV manufacturers like Tesla (TSLA) and Rivian (RIVN), the market will reward Apple rather richly for a well-executed product.\nAn Apple car with deep iOS integration,as is speculated, would further drive the ecosystem flywheel. In fact, it would take that flywheel to unimaginable levels. Imagine trying to leave an ecosystem where you have to replace a $50K (and I'm probably being cheap) car, a phone, a computer... it's quite the lock in.\nTaking AR/VR into account, one would have to consider that AR could be a cannibalizing force for the iPhone. If one can see all they need through lenses and control those lenses through gestures or the Apple Watch, Apple could cannibalize the phone market.\nThat, however, is a good thing. Apple could price a novel item like AR glasses with higher margins than a phone. Fans and tech enthusiasts would pay that early adopter price and others would soon follow suit if the product lives up to the hype. It gets Apple out of the \"$1,000 for a phone\" line of thinking.\nData by YCharts\nAll this to say, Apple's rich valuation today is a worthy one. At a PE of ~29, it's hardly extortionate, but it is outside of Apple's average over the last five years.\nThe ecosystem, one that ties its customers in for life, is where the value lies here and Apple has plans to expand that with vehicles and wearables. Even at a PE of 29, I believe this to be a secure long-term investment that will pay investors a dividend, albeit small, along the way while continuing to retire billions of dollars in stock ($315B authorized ~10%).\nAddressing The Risks\nFear and inflation. Fear is the largest and most significant risk that Apple faces. Buyers told that bad times are coming tend to zip up their pocketbooks. Buyers who have to spend 10% more on groceries suddenly don't have enough to buy the latest iPhone.\nThese are external concerns that Apple has little control over. The company has, over the years, introduced buy-now-pay-later and subscription programs that help buyers get the goods they want at an affordable monthly price, and, as discussed, Apple has substantial margins that it could use to overcome significant headwinds in this space.\nExecution is another risk Apple faces, especially as we look to these \"futuristic\" products. A self-driving car could be worth trillions of dollars in lifetime revenues, or it could be a dud upon release that never gets full approval to operate on the streets. Likewise, an AR headset that no one wants to be seen wearing, or that proves difficult to wear through the day, could be a dead-on-arrival product.\nGiven the nature of these two products and the secrecy surrounding their development, one cannot truly assign a real risk rating to them. They're just things to be aware of. Apple does have a history of great execution (MacBook keyboard and Touch Bar aside), however, so an investor should feel at least somewhat comfortable that the company will put its best foot forward.\nFinal Thoughts\nAt a valuation nearing $3T one would assume there isn't much room left to run in Apple, but investors still stand to beat the overall market in this name thanks to excellent capital allocation.\nApple has $315B in authorized buybacks and returns some $14.5B in dividends each year. Apple will likely buyback close to $100B in stock during its 2022 fiscal year which, alone, represents a 3.7% return on today's prices. Combined with a dividend yield of 0.6%, investors will make 4.3% on this name through shareholder friendly practices alone.\nThose numbers will compound too, another $100B in 2023, $100B in 2024, it all adds up. That $300B is all authorized too.\nAlong with those buybacks and dividends, investors are buying into a company that, last year, defied laws of large numbers and grew its top-line at 33%. While unlikely this year, I still expect that the wearables and services divisions will grow at double digits which will allow Apple to see high single-digit revenue growth through the coming 3-5 years.\nThose with a bearish view on Apple act as though this juggernaut will vanish overnight, but that's simply not true. Sure, you're unlikely to pull down 30%+ annual returns going forward, but if you're looking for a high-quality stable business that can beat the market little-by-little, Apple is a great horse (or car) to back.","kind":null,"is_publish_news":true,"is_publish_highlight":true,"is_publish_live":null,"is_publish_wemedia":null,"editions":null,"column":"","sentiment":"","news_tag":"","news_rank":0,"symbols":[],"gpt_button":1},"commentList":[{"id":602099415,"gmtCreate":1638935906643,"gmtModify":1638935906643,"author":{"id":"4097050108004950","authorId":"4097050108004950","name":"Mei0ng","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7f4b29be25a9c70da4d11e701b017852","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"Me buying calls","listText":"Me buying calls","text":"Me buying calls","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/602099415","repostId":1162682713,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"CN"},{"id":606431084,"gmtCreate":1638918471054,"gmtModify":1638918471551,"author":{"id":"4089283228527040","authorId":"4089283228527040","name":"KwLau","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3567f7deb6e5deddb9f398f87ddcc087","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"Hold it and do not sell for another 10 yrs.","listText":"Hold it and do not sell for another 10 yrs.","text":"Hold it and do not sell for another 10 yrs.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/606431084","repostId":1162682713,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"CN"},{"id":606408380,"gmtCreate":1638916438108,"gmtModify":1638916438867,"author":{"id":"3579342217954724","authorId":"3579342217954724","name":"手可摘棉花","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/eb5d81ca4420febc27175fcd21eb90b2","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"Held this stock for many years. Never once looked back.&nbsp;","listText":"Held this stock for many years. Never once looked back.&nbsp;","text":"Held this stock for many years. Never once looked 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regret selling at a small profit but yes apple in terms of stock dont disappoint ","text":"I regret selling at a small profit but yes apple in terms of stock dont disappoint ","html":"I regret selling at a small profit but yes apple in terms of stock dont disappoint "}],"langContent":"CN"},{"id":606541804,"gmtCreate":1638908755122,"gmtModify":1638908755122,"author":{"id":"4101621076406760","authorId":"4101621076406760","name":"cching88","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3d951aa6bc97a74da74a1834287a54b7","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"To the moon!","listText":"To the moon!","text":"To the 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