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"Goldman Is Wrong": Lithium Miners Brush off Share Price Rout

The incoming chief executive of lithium major Pilbara Minerals has shrugged off a handful of bearish

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Lithium prices vary depending on geography, grade and its form, but the investment bank forecast lithium carbonate to slide from around $US60,000 a tonne to $US16,372 a tonne in 2023.Daniel Jimenez, a director of Galan Lithium who is also a partner of lithium consultancy iLiMarkets, agreed equity investors had been unnerved by the broker notes and other headlines, but were underestimating demand and overestimating supply.“I think Goldman Sachs has it totally wrong,” he said.Mr Jimenez said wait times for EVs in Europe had blown out to up to 24 months, showing “real” demand was “significantly higher” today than car sales suggest, and more lithium, rather than less, would be needed than expected.He expects global lithium carbonate equivalent demand to rise from 500,000 tonnes last year to 1.4 million in 2025, above Goldman’s forecast. As for supply, Mr Jimenez said it was unlikely new projects not known today would come online, and it’s hard for people “who have not been in the industry” to assess how challenging it is to expand lithium projects or build new ones.The former executive at major Chilean producer SQM said adding EV original equipment manufacturers, or OEMs, consistently had more ambitious plans and required more lithium than forecasters expected, while supply tended to be overestimated.“Unless something really catastrophic happens in the world, a third world war or an economic crash, I think it’s very unlikely we will see over the next five years a market where lithium is not short,” he said.Argonaut analyst George Ross said he was also sceptical the lithium supply coming to market would hit “as quickly as predicted”, noting many technical challenges in commissioning spodumene and brine operations.However, he conceded lithium stocks still look “overly inflated” after cumulative market capitalisations hit $48 billion this year up from less than $1 billion in 2015.Following Pilbara’s share price slump, Macquarie analysts said the market was pricing in a flat lithium carbonate price of $US13,000 a tonne -- about 80 per cent below spot prices in China -- or spodumene at $US950 a tonne, 85 per cent below the price secured in its recent auction.Mr Henderson, who joined Pilbara in 2017 ahead of the lithium market’s two-year bear market, said it’s “very hard to imagine” lithium prices returning to those dark days, and he’d like to do another auction as “soon as possible… for obvious reasons”.“The demand side of the equation is structurally different,” he said. “It seems lithium has gone from this very speculative sort of commodity back then to what’s sort of acknowledged as a key ingredient for the future.”Macquarie’s analysts this week slightly reduced their 2022 EV sales forecasts, but still expect 43 per cent growth on last year to 9.5 million vehicles, and said any lithium and cobalt price pullbacks could be “temporary once China bounces back”.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":991,"commentLimit":10,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"symbols":[],"verified":2,"subType":0,"readableState":1,"langContent":"CN","currentLanguage":"CN","warmUpFlag":false,"orderFlag":false,"shareable":true,"causeOfNotShareable":"","featuresForAnalytics":[],"commentAndTweetFlag":false,"upFlag":false,"length":25,"xxTargetLangEnum":"ZH_CN"},"commentList":[],"hasMoreComment":false,"orderType":2}