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honinbou
2023-06-23
期待全球首富榜的富豪贡献一场决斗[开心]
马斯克“约战肉搏”小扎,科学分析谁能赢?
honinbou
2023-06-02
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
Andrew balino 为啥每个月都在卖特斯拉股票?这人要跑路了?
honinbou
2023-04-01
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
肯定有人提前知道了Tesla Q1的销量。
[开心]
,如果超过预期的话,超过前高 217 不是梦。
honinbou
2022-12-28
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
跌起来真的是抄家。回到400看来至少要三年了。关软件了。
honinbou
2022-12-26
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
目前情绪已经坏了,虽然处于超跌情况,但更坏的情况仍然可能发生。别加杠杆,心平气和穿越牛熊。
honinbou
2022-12-05
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
不就减产的消息么?没见过世面的样子,当年买tesla,天天听到tesla要破产的消息。都还有个网站倒计时tesla啥时候倒闭。
honinbou
2022-11-22
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
上周五跌的比去年最低还低,技术形态上不好,哎,不知道底在哪里。。。
honinbou
2022-11-09
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
哎,大空头特斯拉CEO马斯克分别在11月4日、7日和8日这三个连续的交易日内共计减持1950万股特斯拉股票,抛售股票总价值约达39.5亿美元。截至8日美股收盘,特斯拉股价下跌2.93%。7日,特斯拉收跌5%,创下自2021年6月以来的最低水平。自马斯克完成440亿美元的推特收购交易以来,特斯拉的股价下跌了12%以上。年初至今,该公司股价已经下跌52.17%。
honinbou
2022-10-26
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
应对高通胀最佳办法就是投资增长更快的公司。[贱笑]
honinbou
2022-10-24
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
你是中概股么?[喷血]
honinbou
2022-10-24
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
是中概股么?
honinbou
2022-10-18
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
谦虚了,上一个手机圈放话是要收购苹果的。你只是把tesla淘汰,显得信心不太够,有点低调谦虚。[贱笑]
李斌:特斯拉如果不改进产品和服务,很快会被市场淘汰
honinbou
2022-10-06
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
天天跌,糟心。[喷血]
honinbou
2022-10-03
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
今晚股价会不会凉凉?[喷血]
honinbou
2022-09-09
改善生活?
理想执行董事沈亚楠于9月6日卖出理想汽车60万股
honinbou
2022-08-24
呵呵+2,小偷就是小偷。把华人工程师坑惨了。
抱歉,原内容已删除
honinbou
2022-08-13
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
拆股前涨到1000再拆嘛,涨到1200也能接受。[贱笑] [贱笑] [贱笑]
honinbou
2022-08-10
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
渣
特斯拉CEO马斯克又卖股,现阶段股票出售已完成
honinbou
2022-08-01
$蔚来(NIO)$
差生交卷晚。[笑哭]
honinbou
2022-07-30
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
做空的朋友们,你们好吗?[捂脸]
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","listText":"期待全球首富榜的富豪贡献一场决斗[开心] ","text":"期待全球首富榜的富豪贡献一场决斗[开心]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/190295245041720","repostId":"1179928163","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1179928163","pubTimestamp":1687482914,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1179928163?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2023-06-23 09:15","market":"us","language":"zh","title":"马斯克“约战肉搏”小扎,科学分析谁能赢?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1179928163","media":"极客公园","summary":"这该死的AI情!硅谷精英向来以热爱健身运动闻名,4 点跑完步就开会的苹果掌门蒂姆·库克都只能算入门,像 Meta 创始人马克·扎克伯格这样冲浪、柔术双修的,也不在少数。直到现在,小扎终于有机会实践一下","content":"<html><head></head><body><blockquote>这该死的AI情!</blockquote><p>硅谷精英向来以热爱健身运动闻名,4 点跑完步就开会的苹果掌门蒂姆·库克都只能算入门,像 Meta 创始人马克·扎克伯格这样冲浪、柔术双修的,也不在少数。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">直到现在,小扎终于有机会实践一下自己的锻炼成果了,他的对象是——特斯拉创始人伊隆·马斯克。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3bb425135bb4eb84589ae8602d7fa130\" title=\"反正我准备好“角斗”了,要是他也准备好的话,呵呵。Twitter\" tg-width=\"904\" tg-height=\"456\"/><span>反正我准备好“角斗”了,要是他也准备好的话,呵呵。Twitter</span></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">近日,在马斯克发布推文要和扎克伯格来一次“笼式角斗”时,后者迅速发布一张马斯克推文图片,并用加黑粗体“位置发我”作为回应。马斯克随后发出邀请——拉斯维加斯八角体育场。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">家人们,谁不想看两个身家一共超过 3000 亿美元的富翁,放下手机和嘴炮,在现实里来一场无保护格斗呢?</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>马斯克引战,小扎积极反应</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>一个巴掌拍不响,但硅谷要是出什么搞笑的事儿,你就知道一定是马斯克先动的手。</strong></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d18a61554210d3f9f71c5b5465bdfef5\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"661\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">两周前,美国科技媒体报道了 Meta 正在研发的 Twitter 竞品,一款内部代号为“92 号项目”(Project 92)的产品——从图片来看,毫无疑问“92 号项目”就是像素级的 Twitter 竞品。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">作为 Twitter 的太上皇,马斯克不干了。他做了什么呢?</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8eeede371ce1f7a6bb0a20d5693fba81\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"381\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">在人家新闻 Twitter 下面留言:Zuck my (憋说话,舌我,不是)。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">嗯,如此风骚的回应,确实只有硅谷钢铁侠能干出来,说账号被盗都没用的。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">反观 Meta 内部,首席产品官 Chris Cox 在内部会上一句“用户需要一个正常人管理的 Twitter”迎来了满堂喝彩。小扎也在采访中拱火道:“我一直认为 Twitter 该有 10 亿用户才对。”</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">这梁子不就结下了么?</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">于是本文开头,双方互相约战的情景就出现了。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">其实,俩人的矛盾,早在 6 年前就结下了。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>“再续前缘”</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">早在 2017 年的时候,马斯克和扎克伯格就因为人工智能的事儿,打过好一顿嘴炮儿。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">事情起因嘛,大家也知道,马斯克虽然是科技偶像,但是对人工智能有根深蒂固的恐惧,是绝对的“AI 末日派”。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">6 年前的一个下午,马克·扎克伯格在自家后院一场很随意的直播中,突然被问到对于马斯克“AI 末日论”的看法。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5f0af195e6d5f1948d9d1979009aeeef\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"701\" tg-height=\"470\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">作为一直积极投资 AI 的企业家,扎克伯格也没让网友失望,他表示自己非常看好 AI 的发展,对此感到非常乐观,并且认为那些鼓吹 AI 会毁灭人类的人太过消极,他很不理解,<strong>从某种程度上来说,他认为这种说法是“非常不负责任的”。</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>“在接下来的 5 到 10 年,AI 将会给我们的生活品质带来诸多可喜的改变。”</strong>扎克伯格在直播中说道。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">于是,美国媒体同学添油加醋,炮制出扎克伯格炮轰马斯克的新闻。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/aa4d2bd97ce64689b7b48a73ff6faa1b\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"525\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">马斯克“大度”地在相关新闻下方评论:“我和小扎聊过了,他对 AI 的理解挺局限的。”</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">后来的事情大家也知道了,Meta 继续押注 AI,但半途转身“元宇宙”;马斯克投资 OpenAI,研究脑机接口,想让人类和硅基结合成“超人”。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">截至目前俩人都还未能如愿。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">但是,自己约出去的架,地点都选好了,没有不打之理!</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">接下来的问题就是?</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>“马扎大战”,谁是赢家?</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">咱们先从两位选手的基本数据看一下大概情况:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7cf2bb776916d32e62fbf08e8c47735e\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"1500\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>马斯克:</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">52 岁,身高 187,体重...... 至少 82Kg,鉴于太忙可能过劳肥,甚至有可能达到 100Kg 的中量级选手标准;</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b712ed95b7faca5e3a65688a84e0ad6b\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"669\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>扎克伯格:</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">39 岁,身高 171,体重 70Kg。精通巴西柔术、跑步和冲浪。</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">从数据来看,马斯克这体格子绝对占优,要不然老马不会直接在挑衅推文里把自己的看家绝招都剧透了:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ce22f06e53f16e70037ba052dbfcade7\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"910\" tg-height=\"718\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>哥们儿有一手绝活叫“海象翻身”,咋使呢,就是我直接躺对手身上,啥也不干,就躺着就行。</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">海象翻身这招使出来,大概是这样的:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a0098c60ad3c1acb9baa1ef574b46aa\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"480\" tg-height=\"240\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">不扯淡,这是马斯克红戳认证的:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d906851ab7003408a1a84fa3c3fc5358\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"950\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">反过来看我们的应战者小扎,身高体重确实有些劣势。但是架不住小扎有年龄优势,而且,别忘了,人家可是硅谷“练家子”:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/11ad3c57cbdf96b8ff5982e89beadb29\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"563\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>而且小扎显然“自律给他自由”,访华都带着跑步鞋,体能上说不定真够老马一呛。</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">言而总之吧,大家都知道马斯克嘴炮打得响,但是跳票是时有发生的;小扎这种哥们认真,追着老马约架也不是不可能的。</p><p style=\"text-align: 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If they don’t improve their products fast enough or don’t provide good services, they will quickly be pushed out of the market.</b></blockquote><p><b>进军德国是为啥?</b></p><p>李斌开门见山,就是要成为一个全球性的品牌。</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO.SI\">蔚来</a>创始人称,已经做好了技术准备和战略规划,就是要为“成为全球品牌”而前进,蔚来会在当地建立蔚来中心,为用户提供合适的产品。</p><p>但目前在德国,蔚来提供的产品还不是直接销售汽车,而是通过租赁的方式。</p><p>更早之前,李斌在发布会上说,在调研后发现德国企业用车市场存在机会,蔚来以只租不卖的方式,最合适。</p><p>德国是全球汽车的发明之地,更是传统豪强的故乡,李斌对德国车企有100%的敬意。</p><p>他说德国车企的销量目前是蔚来的20倍,自己从这些巨头身上学到了很多。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fc4fa0f56e1ee29ca48e71b67053eb2a\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"294\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>但蔚来并非没有优势。</p><p>蔚来的优势是年轻(笑),以及产品面向未来打造。比如最新的旗舰车型ET7,配备了激光雷达和高清摄像头等多传感器,让驾驶和座舱都有了不一样的体验。</p><p>另外,蔚来还是用户导向型体验,从用户需求出发去提供产品和服务,比如换电方案,还有<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">智能</a>驾驶的订阅服务等等。</p><p>李斌强调,蔚来不仅仅是一家造车公司,蔚来已经在中国建立起了一个车主社区,打算在德国也建一个。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fac7ae364de234c74b096be6fc6095b6\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"339\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>斌言斌语评价特斯拉</b></p><p>那如何评价电动车友商特斯拉?因为李斌说也有进军美国的计划。</p><p>相比对德国燃油车企表现出的敬意,李斌对特斯拉的认可并非100%。</p><p>一方面,李斌认为特斯拉值得尊敬,特别是在技术研发、生产制造效率和成本控制等方面。</p><p>但更重要的一方面,李斌认为蔚来与特斯拉有很大的不同。</p><p>“特斯拉重视技术,在汽车工业从燃油向电动转换进程中功不可没,但现在依然面临很大压力,如果不改进产品和服务,会很快被市场淘汰。”</p><p>李斌强调,蔚来是用户导向型企业,技术对蔚来很重要,但会更关注用户。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0509bfcbd5db9b248afe138f4cb1dade\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"547\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>蔚来CEO还被问及如何评价特斯拉CEO马斯克,他打了个比方:</p><p>我会直接跟用户交流,而不是发个推弄个公告通知。</p><p>“显然我是做得更好的那一个。”</p><blockquote>Besides, I’m the better dancer…</blockquote><p>李斌还表示,虽然现如今蔚来还不是一家盈利公司,原因是在基础平台建设上花费投入资源,但相比特斯拉用时16年才盈利,蔚来会好得多。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/aceed36c874ae58db7152ad88da2d12c\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"292\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>至于何时进军特斯拉大本营美国,李斌给出的时间表是2025年年底。</p><p>但目前美国已经颁发了《降低通胀法案》,不利于外国汽车制造商生产和进入,蔚来或许会进一步观望一番。</p><p>李斌还谈到了更多的目标,比如到2030年,能够跻身全球车企TOP5.</p><p>但这种计划还需要借助子品牌,蔚来前不久已经释放了代号ALPS(阿尔卑斯)的进展,这是一个传说中的子品牌:产品价格更低,两年内上市。</p><p>蔚来要以更低的价格,更大规模的量产销售,赢取更多市场。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2ddb0d659263553f4055045a4ef04bfa\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"560\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>目前蔚来月交付徘徊在万台左右。最近的9月,蔚来新车交付量为10878台,第三季度新车交付量为31607台,同比增长29.3%,创下季度交付量历史新高。截止目前,蔚来新车已累计交付249504台。</p><p>而作为对比,特斯拉同样在9月,仅中国市场就完成了8.3万台的月度交付。同样是2022年第三季度,特斯拉全球生产了超过36.5万辆车,交付了超过34.3万辆车。</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1611665793971","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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If they don’t improve their products fast enough or don’t provide good services, they will quickly be pushed out of the market.进军德国是为啥?李斌开门见山,就是要成为一个全球性的品牌。蔚来创始人称,已经做好了技术准备和战略规划,就是要为“成为全球品牌”而前进,蔚来会在当地建立蔚来中心,为用户提供合适的产品。但目前在德国,蔚来提供的产品还不是直接销售汽车,而是通过租赁的方式。更早之前,李斌在发布会上说,在调研后发现德国企业用车市场存在机会,蔚来以只租不卖的方式,最合适。德国是全球汽车的发明之地,更是传统豪强的故乡,李斌对德国车企有100%的敬意。他说德国车企的销量目前是蔚来的20倍,自己从这些巨头身上学到了很多。但蔚来并非没有优势。蔚来的优势是年轻(笑),以及产品面向未来打造。比如最新的旗舰车型ET7,配备了激光雷达和高清摄像头等多传感器,让驾驶和座舱都有了不一样的体验。另外,蔚来还是用户导向型体验,从用户需求出发去提供产品和服务,比如换电方案,还有智能驾驶的订阅服务等等。李斌强调,蔚来不仅仅是一家造车公司,蔚来已经在中国建立起了一个车主社区,打算在德国也建一个。斌言斌语评价特斯拉那如何评价电动车友商特斯拉?因为李斌说也有进军美国的计划。相比对德国燃油车企表现出的敬意,李斌对特斯拉的认可并非100%。一方面,李斌认为特斯拉值得尊敬,特别是在技术研发、生产制造效率和成本控制等方面。但更重要的一方面,李斌认为蔚来与特斯拉有很大的不同。“特斯拉重视技术,在汽车工业从燃油向电动转换进程中功不可没,但现在依然面临很大压力,如果不改进产品和服务,会很快被市场淘汰。”李斌强调,蔚来是用户导向型企业,技术对蔚来很重要,但会更关注用户。蔚来CEO还被问及如何评价特斯拉CEO马斯克,他打了个比方:我会直接跟用户交流,而不是发个推弄个公告通知。“显然我是做得更好的那一个。”Besides, I’m the better 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