$特斯拉(TSLA)_老虎社区_美港股上老虎

2022-10-18

$特斯拉(TSLA)$谦虚了，上一个手机圈放话是要收购苹果的。你只是把tesla淘汰，显得信心不太够，有点低调谦虚。[贱笑]

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scauzhangzhi
2022-10-19
scauzhangzhi
大哥，今晚特斯拉财报，你还继续持有吗
- scauzhangzhi回复honinbou:
  大哥，又跌了，何时是个头？
- honinbou:
  持有啊，又不是一天两天了
Johnsonk
2022-10-18
Johnsonk
就像市场淘汰蔚来那样
- honinbou:
  哈哈哈
MFe
2022-10-18
MFe
牛皮吹大了[龇牙]
大神Q
2022-10-18
大神Q
我要是有钱就把蔚来私有化了

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