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12-05

$META 20251205 630.0 PUT$ 还好前两天没有被震出去，反而加仓，赚点钱心惊肉跳的[得意]

和时间赛跑zilong

2024-03-07

$英伟达(NVDA)$ 这次买入的目标价格是年底达到700-800，今天终于突破八字头进入九百大关，也许很快就会突破1000。但我有点怕了，拿不住咯，记录一下翻倍，再观察吧！

和时间赛跑zilong

12-05

$META 20251212 635.0 PUT$ 继续平仓，继续看好

和时间赛跑zilong

03-15

老川在上台前做了一波特斯拉和一波虚拟币，他已经赚大了，然后开始搞事情。上一届他明确要拉股市当做政绩，这一次他多次强调不在乎股市目前行情的跌幅，所以啊~~

和时间赛跑zilong

2024-03-14

$META 20240328 460.0 PUT$ 还有两周，剩余20%的权利金不要了

和时间赛跑zilong

02-21

目前还是相信巴菲特，增仓$西方石油(OXY)$是正路

和时间赛跑zilong

2024-04-11

$NVDA 20240412 835.0 PUT$ 还好不怕继续持有，看来吃到明天没问题

和时间赛跑zilong

2024-07-09

$META 20240726 465.0 PUT$ 不等了，已赚得差不多，平仓

和时间赛跑zilong

2022-05-20

别扯什么男人犯错，这错误就不该是男人该犯的，希望留言的男性朋友们这点底线认知还是要有的，最终25万美金封口费达成一致。但是，2018年的事情拿到现在翻出来，觉得这才是阴谋和阴损的复合体，看来民主党对马斯克最近做了些事情表示不满意，开始搞事情

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和时间赛跑zilong

2019-12-26

$赫克拉矿业(HL)$涨得太凶，补仓的速度更不上涨势。本来是为明年准备的，今年指数上涨也不见黄金跌下去，看来市场恐慌情绪还是比较严重的

和时间赛跑zilong

05-12

$META 20250523 580.0 PUT$ 平仓放手，老川这一天一个样的，赚到就收手

和时间赛跑zilong

11-25

$META 20251205 605.0 PUT$ 平一部分，还有还有

和时间赛跑zilong

07-31

$META 20250815 710.0 PUT$ 赌财报的临时仓位搞完，结束！

和时间赛跑zilong

2019-03-14

$Facebook(FB)$ 这笔结束，找不到合适的期权开仓了

和时间赛跑zilong

2021-10-21

$AAPL 20211105 135.0 PUT(AAPL)$终于又轮到差不多可以平仓的价格了

和时间赛跑zilong

2020-10-09

$亚马逊(AMZN)$守到最后一天

和时间赛跑zilong

2019-10-25

$加拿大鹅(GOOS)$本来以为按照昨天的架势，会触发购买正股，看来只能等着吃光权利金了

和时间赛跑zilong

08-06

$LLY 20251017 750.0 PUT$ 明天盘前财报，虽然对礼来一直十分看好，但大势上老川喊着药企下周降价，到目前为止美股医药一直起不来，只能再平掉一点等财报了。如果大跌到心理价位再买，如果大涨也不错过

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id=\"id_3424132287\">逆势押注煤炭股获丰厚回报</h2><p>对于一个长达60年都对煤炭行业避而远之的投资者而言，芒格在2023年的举动令市场颇感意外。</p><p>据《华尔街日报》报道，当时许多投资者因煤炭使用量长期下降而看空该行业，但芒格却看到了不同的逻辑。他认为，随着全球能源需求的增长，煤炭仍将是必要的，且许多生产商依然盈利，股价却相当便宜。</p><p>“他读到一篇说煤炭行业完蛋了的文章，”其继子Hal Borthwick回忆道，“他说，‘胡说八道’。”</p><p>于是，在2023年5月，芒格买入了煤炭生产商Consol Energy的股票，并在同年晚些时候购入了冶金煤生产商<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMR\">Alpha Metallurgical</a> Resources的股份。<strong>到他去世时，Consol的股价已翻倍，Alpha的股价也大幅上涨，这两笔投资合计为他带来了超过5000万美元的账面收益。</strong></p><h2 id=\"id_1279929022\">忘年之交与地产帝国</h2><p>芒格晚年的另一项非凡投资，始于一段忘年之交。</p><p>2005年，年仅17岁的邻居Avi Mayer敲开了芒格的门。当时的Mayer在学业上遇到困难，对未来感到迷茫。芒格成为了他的倾听者和导师，并支持他放弃上大学，进入“芒格大学”——通过观察和实践来学习。</p><p>几年后，当Mayer与童年好友Reuven Gradon合作投身房地产时，芒格在观察了他们初期的运作后，决定为他们的公司Afton Properties提供支持。从2017年左右开始，三人合作在南加州收购了近10000套低层公寓。芒格深度参与了业务的方方面面，从地段选择、建筑评估到粉刷颜色，甚至亲自决定花费数十万美元种植新树木以改善景观。</p><p><strong>在芒格的建议下，该公司选择了长期贷款，以锁定有利的利率并长期持有资产。</strong></p><p>这一策略收效显著，《华尔街日报》援引知情人士称，Afton Properties目前持有的资产价值约30亿美元。直至生命的最后时刻，芒格依然在参与决策，在他去世几天后，一笔位于Costco超市对面的楼产收购交易才最终完成。</p><h2 id=\"id_458732588\">以从容与幽默直面衰老</h2><p>在生命的最后十年，芒格开始面临健康挑战。</p><p>《华尔街日报》文章写道，1978年的一次白内障手术失误导致他左眼失明，而2014年左右，他的右眼视神经也出现问题，一度面临完全失明的可能。据他的朋友Li Lu回忆，芒格对此处之泰然，甚至准备好了学习盲文。幸运的是，他的右眼视力后来缓慢改善。</p><p>随着行动日益受限，他放弃了高尔夫等爱好，并需要依赖手杖行走。但他始终以幽默对抗衰老带来的困扰。<strong>他会开玩笑说自己长寿的秘诀是健怡<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/KO\">可乐</a>，并曾对一位访客感叹：“噢，要是能再回到86岁就好了。”</strong>在饮食上，家人最终放弃了让他保持健康饮食的努力，他享受着Costco热狗、In-N-Out汉堡和韩式炸鸡等外卖食品。</p><p>芒格担忧孤独和变得无足轻重，他选择用更紧密的社交来充实生活。他每周二在洛杉矶乡村俱乐部与一群商界人士<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/603118\">共进</a>早餐，分享投资智慧和人生哲学。他曾对朋友们说：“在我这个年纪，你要么结交新朋友，要么就一个朋友都没有。”</p><h2 id=\"id_2749423593\">与巴菲特的最后告别</h2><p>尽管芒格在生命的最后十年里，对伯克希尔哈撒韦的日常参与度有所降低，但他与巴菲特的友谊与合作关系贯穿始终。</p><p>两人每周或每两周通话一次，由于芒格住在洛杉矶，巴菲特在奥马哈，且两人都有听力问题，沟通变得更具挑战性。</p><p>据芒格孙媳Whitney Jackson回忆：“他们会对着电话大声喊叫。谈话内容可能本应是保密的，但方圆一英里内的任何人都能听到。”</p><p><strong>据《华尔街日报》，在去世前几天，芒格被送往蒙特西托附近的一家医院。他请家人离开房间，以便自己最后一次致电巴菲特，两位传奇搭档就此作了最后的告别。</strong></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" 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Borthwick回忆道，“他说，‘胡说八道’。”于是，在2023年5月，芒格买入了煤炭生产商Consol Energy的股票，并在同年晚些时候购入了冶金煤生产商Alpha Metallurgical Resources的股份。到他去世时，Consol的股价已翻倍，Alpha的股价也大幅上涨，这两笔投资合计为他带来了超过5000万美元的账面收益。忘年之交与地产帝国芒格晚年的另一项非凡投资，始于一段忘年之交。2005年，年仅17岁的邻居Avi Mayer敲开了芒格的门。当时的Mayer在学业上遇到困难，对未来感到迷茫。芒格成为了他的倾听者和导师，并支持他放弃上大学，进入“芒格大学”——通过观察和实践来学习。几年后，当Mayer与童年好友Reuven Gradon合作投身房地产时，芒格在观察了他们初期的运作后，决定为他们的公司Afton Properties提供支持。从2017年左右开始，三人合作在南加州收购了近10000套低层公寓。芒格深度参与了业务的方方面面，从地段选择、建筑评估到粉刷颜色，甚至亲自决定花费数十万美元种植新树木以改善景观。在芒格的建议下，该公司选择了长期贷款，以锁定有利的利率并长期持有资产。这一策略收效显著，《华尔街日报》援引知情人士称，Afton Properties目前持有的资产价值约30亿美元。直至生命的最后时刻，芒格依然在参与决策，在他去世几天后，一笔位于Costco超市对面的楼产收购交易才最终完成。以从容与幽默直面衰老在生命的最后十年，芒格开始面临健康挑战。《华尔街日报》文章写道，1978年的一次白内障手术失误导致他左眼失明，而2014年左右，他的右眼视神经也出现问题，一度面临完全失明的可能。据他的朋友Li 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justify;\">一位不愿具名的高级政府官员在周四的吹风会上告诉媒体，礼来和诺和诺德即将推出的口服减肥药的起始剂量（在获批后）将在Medicare、Medicaid或TrumpRx渠道中统一为每月145美元。诺和诺德的Wegovy注射剂口服版本可能会在今年底进入市场，而礼来的口服药orforglipron可能会在明年上市。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">另一位高级政府官员对媒体表示，已有的注射剂产品，如诺和诺德的Wegovy和礼来的Zepbound，在TrumpRx上的起始剂量价格为每月350美元，但将在两年时间里“逐步下降”至每月245美元。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">特朗普则表示，Wegovy和Zepbound此前并未被Medicare覆盖用于减肥用途，</p><blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">“Medicaid也极少覆盖”。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">“消费者通常需要每月支付超过1000美元，有些远高于此……这种情况从今天开始结束。”</p></blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">媒体称，这些协议是特朗普政府在遏制美国高药价、并将药价与海外最低价挂钩的努力中，迄今为止最具政治意义的宣布之一。作为特朗普的“最惠国”政策的一部分，他已宣布与辉瑞(Pfizer)、阿斯利康(AstraZeneca)和EMD Serono达成协议，以折扣价直接向患者出售某些药物，换取免除计划中的医药关税。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">美国卫生与公众服务部部长小罗伯特·F·肯尼迪(Robert F. Kennedy Jr.)在吹风会上表示。</p><blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">“这是我们国家最重要的一类药物，因此也是我们宣布过的所有‘最惠国’政策中最重要的一项。”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">“这将对美国民众产生最大影响。所有美国人，即便不是Medicaid和Medicare人群，都能以同样的价格获得GLP-1药物。”</p></blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">肯尼迪声称，到明年这个时候，美国民众将因此减掉1.25亿磅（约5670万吨）体重，并表示扩大用药可及性将对美国人的健康产生“显著影响”。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">消息公布后，诺和诺德的美国存托凭证(ADR)股价曾一度上涨，但随后下挫约3%；礼来股价则波动后小涨。</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/addc6f28c4fdffb46606152d5900799c\" tg-width=\"560\" tg-height=\"240\"/></p><h2 id=\"id_864739772\" style=\"text-align: start;\">提高减肥药的可及性</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">媒体表示，当前减肥药的标价每月大约1000至1350美元（保险报销前），这是患者使用的一大障碍。许多患者都可能受益于这些药物带来的减重效果，以及缓解心血管风险、睡眠呼吸暂停等相关健康问题。礼来和诺和诺德已经有面向自费患者的直接折扣项目，但新的协议似乎进一步提升了可及性。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">根据协议，诺和诺德和礼来同意将Medicare为糖尿病等获批适应症所覆盖的GLP-1药物、以及减肥用途的GLP-1药物的价格降至每月245美元。两家公司同意将政府的低价（每月245美元、适用于所有非起始剂量）延展至全美50个州的Medicaid项目，用于所有覆盖的适应症。不过各州需要选择加入该定价，因此可能会有部分州不参与。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">但Medicare覆盖的影响可能更大，因为该项目覆盖约6600万人，是65岁以上人群的主要保险来源。新的减肥药覆盖将通过一个试点项目实现，旨在覆盖Medicare Part D（即其处方药计划）下的大多数受益人。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">另一位高级政府官员对媒体表示，大约10%的Medicare受益人将有资格获得GLP-1药物用于减肥及心血管和代谢方面的益处。符合资格的患者将分为三类：第一类是超重人群，身体质量指数(BMI)高于27，或有糖尿病前期，或已有心血管疾病；第二类是肥胖人群，BMI高于30，且患有无法控制的高血压、肾病或心力衰竭；第三类是重度肥胖人群，即BMI高于35的任何人。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">目前GLP-1减肥药的获批覆盖范围更广：适用于肥胖人群或超重并伴随一项相关疾病的人群。该官员对媒体表示：</p><blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">“我们对获益明显的患者进行了准入限制，我们非常努力地在扩大覆盖与确保临床受益人群之间取得平衡。”</p></blockquote><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">根据协议，礼来和诺和诺德也做出了与其他制药商在参与特朗普“最惠国”协议时类似的承诺。两家公司将保证未来所有新上市药物的最惠国定价，为所有州Medicaid项目提供该定价，在TrumpRx上对几乎所有基础医疗药物提供至少美国净价或最惠国价格，并对现有产品因海外药价上涨带来的节省与政府共享，一位高级官员对媒体表示。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">同样在周四，礼来表示将在其自有直销平台LillyDirect上再降价50美元。该平台已经以折扣价向自费患者销售Zepbound。Zepbound的多剂次笔式注射器，最低剂量的价格将降至每月299美元，更高剂量价格最高为每月449美元。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">礼来的口服药在获批后，最低剂量的价格将从每月149美元起。</p><h2 id=\"id_2905470729\" style=\"text-align: start;\">重大价格变动</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">礼来CEO大卫·里克斯(David Ricks)周四在声明中表示，这项协议标志着“美国医疗政策的一个关键时刻，也是礼来的一个里程碑”，公司将继续致力于“改善治疗效果、强化美国医疗体系，并为国民健康作出长期贡献”。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">诺和诺德CEO Mike Doustdar在另一份声明中表示，“今天的宣布将以更低成本，让更多美国患者能够使用司美格鲁肽类药物。”司美格鲁肽是Wegovy和Ozempic的活性成分。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">这并不是美国政府首次试图推动Medicare覆盖减肥药。前总统拜登在任期结束前曾提出一项规则，允许Medicare覆盖这类药物，但特朗普政府在今年4月拒绝最终敲定该提案。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">拜登的提议原本将让约340万Medicare受益人获得用药，但当时存在争议，因为国会预算分析认为，这项政策在九年内将花费纳税人高达350亿美元。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">但一些医疗专家认为，覆盖这些药物可减少未来治疗肥胖相关疾病的医疗支出。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">司美格鲁肽也被纳入《降低通胀法案》(Inflation Reduction Act)下一轮的Medicare药价谈判范围，该法案由拜登于2022年签署成为法律。特朗普预计将在11月30日前公布参与此次谈判的15种药物的新价格。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">替尔泊肽（tirzepatide）是礼来Zepbound和糖尿病注射剂Mounjaro的活性成分，可能要到本十年末才有资格参与药价谈判。</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1762389672944","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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