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KEINS
11-26
$英伟达(NVDA)$
必须加仓
KEINS
11-26
$谷歌A(GOOGL)$
巴菲特开始自救了。趁反弹赶紧抛
KEINS
11-26
$谷歌A(GOOGL)$
现在还敢杀进去??找死。
KEINS
11-26
$谷歌A(GOOGL)$
坐等你高楼塌!!! 谷歌的tpu只能自己用的好,给别人用,也用不太好。只能抢一些外围客户。 而且谷歌的ai也在蚕食自己的搜索流量,谷歌用户到底是用搜索还是用ai搜索?我很懵! 谷歌轻推理,你问它问题,就推荐一堆链接。。好家伙,你自己不推理好给我,让我自己看链接??? 不做深入推理,使劲推链接,能保住广告流量 但却会被openai抢走客户,这年头谁还费劲搜索东西? 要做深入推理,好吧,自己的广告业务必跌!! 对于谷歌来说,进退维谷!此时炒作股价,谁接盘谁倒霉!
KEINS
11-25
$英伟达(NVDA)$
人人都想挑战,因为他因为它的生态护城河那么深,是你挑战的了的吗? 陈而且伟达专注只做一件事儿。 你谷歌什么都想做,什么都想要,我告诉你,注定你什么都得不到。
KEINS
11-20
$小米集团-W(01810)$
哈哈哈,该
KEINS
11-18
赞同
KEINS
11-17
马斯克发表
@james duan:
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
兄弟们今天发生了什么谁能告诉我
KEINS
11-17
$英伟达(NVDA)$
装什么蛋呐?炒股票不就炒的预期吗?不就应该提前炒吗?当技术出现了,你再入股,你再持仓也晚啦。 你是不懂这个道理吗?你不懂这个道理,你买什么屁的股票啊?你直接存银行,,吃利息得了。 有病! 不就想让别人给你抬微软和苹果的轿子吗? 不就想让别人割肉清仓一伟达和和特斯拉嘛,然后你再接回来啊,你这点小心思,你撅屁股我就知道你要拉什么屎。
清仓英伟达!“白宫背后的科技大佬”Peter Thiel三季度大幅降仓,新买入微软和苹果
KEINS
11-07
别侮辱纳指好吗??
KEINS
11-05
$美国超微公司(AMD)$
老二还是不行。。清仓,换英伟达吧,
KEINS
11-04
微软CEO这个烂水平,大家赶紧卖出,我已经清仓了。
现在整个AI投资逻辑都错了!微软CEO首次承认:成排的H100正在积灰,插不上电
KEINS
10-24
你在罗里吧嗦说什么?他一直就这样啊,人家只是计划计划,人家不是保证,计划遇到变化怎么就不可以了呢?计划有调整怎么就不可以了呢?人家每次虽然是有延迟,但每次说的吹的牛都完成了,你搁这儿阴阳什么呢?你搁这儿唧唧歪歪的。
特斯拉人形机器人再延期,因为双手只能用六星期
KEINS
10-10
$Reddit(RDDT)$
大家都在大跌,你到扛住大跌了,你倒行了今天。
KEINS
10-03
$谷歌A(GOOGL)$
谷歌更改规则,让ai搜索能用到的数据由100页变成10页,虽然谷歌有这个话语权,但是这种行为代表了谷歌的心虚,担心ai抢走它的搜索流量。减少广告收入。 谷歌这种行为阻挡不了ai的发展,小丑一般的行为 暂时清仓谷歌
KEINS
10-01
$Reddit(RDDT)$
真服了,一点儿利空新闻也不发,然后又一个劲儿的跌。什么啊这是
KEINS
10-01
$Reddit(RDDT)$
懵逼了,看不懂
KEINS
10-01
$Reddit(RDDT)$
这股怎么了????
KEINS
09-20
娶你骂了比的
卢伟冰:希望吸引更多苹果用户加入小米,小米手机在影像、续航、信号都比苹果有优势
KEINS
09-03
$英伟达(NVDA)$
东施效颦,amd都追不上,汝等是什么坤坤??国际笑话
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[强]"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":504003077267968,"gmtCreate":1764081541701,"gmtModify":1764081544196,"author":{"id":"3440540550401156","authorId":"3440540550401156","name":"KEINS","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/70c84e27d76e3a3450fb952380b9db3e","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3440540550401156","idStr":"3440540550401156"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">$英伟达(NVDA)$ </a> 人人都想挑战,因为他因为它的生态护城河那么深,是你挑战的了的吗? 陈而且伟达专注只做一件事儿。 你谷歌什么都想做,什么都想要,我告诉你,注定你什么都得不到。","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">$英伟达(NVDA)$ </a> 人人都想挑战,因为他因为它的生态护城河那么深,是你挑战的了的吗? 陈而且伟达专注只做一件事儿。 你谷歌什么都想做,什么都想要,我告诉你,注定你什么都得不到。","text":"$英伟达(NVDA)$ 人人都想挑战,因为他因为它的生态护城河那么深,是你挑战的了的吗? 陈而且伟达专注只做一件事儿。 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