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李录是两头堵,但斌是一根筋
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李录与但斌:同样讲长期投资,买入前想的事情有什么不同?
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<p><span>账户数字增长之外,更重要的是它能买到多少东西。他的长期目标,是通过持有优秀企业,保住并提高自己在全球购买力中的份额。</span></p>\n <p><span>再看但斌,他的关注点更偏向产业趋势。</span></p>\n <p><span>他把AI视为十年以上的技术浪潮,认为短期回调可能发生在长期增长过程中,过度担心波动也可能让人错过机会。同时,他也明确提到要考虑估值,并跟踪企业季报、供需变化和资本开支。</span></p>\n <p><span>把两人的侧重点放在一起,我会这样理解:</span></p>\n <table>\n <tbody>\n <tr>\n <th>\n <p><span>比较维度</span></p></th>\n <th>\n <p><span>李录</span></p></th>\n <th>\n <p><span>但斌</span></p></th>\n </tr>\n <tr>\n <td>\n <p><span>研究入口</span></p></td>\n <td>\n <p><span>看懂企业,判断价值,留安全边际</span></p></td>\n <td>\n <p><span>判断产业趋势,寻找核心受益企业</span></p></td>\n </tr>\n <tr>\n <td>\n <p><span>看待AI周期</span></p></td>\n <td>\n <p><span>技术进步可能伴随多轮繁荣与调整</span></p></td>\n <td>\n <p><span>看好长期浪潮,接受阶段性回调</span></p></td>\n </tr>\n <tr>\n <td>\n <p><span>对热门资产的态度</span></p></td>\n <td>\n <p><span>留意价格,也寻找被忽视的机会</span></p></td>\n <td>\n <p><span>重视参与机会,同时跟踪估值与产业变化</span></p></td>\n </tr>\n </tbody>\n </table>\n <p><span>以上是对公开表述的归纳,并不代表他们每一笔交易的决策过程。</span></p>\n 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<p><span>买股票,就意味着持有一家公司的部分所有权。研究它怎么赚钱、竞争力能持续多久,也要知道自己有哪些问题还没弄懂。能力圈的边界和安全边际,都是长期持有的前提。</span></p>\n <p><span><span>第二,AI的账,最终还是要算。</span></span></p>\n <p><span>李录认可AI的巨大价值,同时提醒:它需要持续投入,成本、收入和利润之间的关系不会消失。技术向前发展,资本市场仍可能经历多轮繁荣与调整。</span></p>\n <p><span>这对投资很实际。一个产品很好用,距离股东赚到钱,中间还有定价、竞争和资本开支好几道关。</span></p>\n <p><span><span>第三,大家都挤在热门公司里,别处可能出现机会。</span></span></p>\n <p><span>李录认为,资金高度集中时,一些优秀企业会被冷落。保持独立判断的人,可以从这种分化中找到价格更有吸引力的生意。</span></p>\n <p><span><span>第四,财富要用购买力衡量。</span></span></p>\n <p><span>账户数字增长之外,更重要的是它能买到多少东西。他的长期目标,是通过持有优秀企业,保住并提高自己在全球购买力中的份额。</span></p>\n <p><span>再看但斌,他的关注点更偏向产业趋势。</span></p>\n <p><span>他把AI视为十年以上的技术浪潮,认为短期回调可能发生在长期增长过程中,过度担心波动也可能让人错过机会。同时,他也明确提到要考虑估值,并跟踪企业季报、供需变化和资本开支。</span></p>\n <p><span>把两人的侧重点放在一起,我会这样理解:</span></p>\n <table>\n <tbody>\n <tr>\n <th>\n <p><span>比较维度</span></p></th>\n <th>\n <p><span>李录</span></p></th>\n <th>\n <p><span>但斌</span></p></th>\n </tr>\n <tr>\n <td>\n <p><span>研究入口</span></p></td>\n <td>\n <p><span>看懂企业,判断价值,留安全边际</span></p></td>\n <td>\n <p><span>判断产业趋势,寻找核心受益企业</span></p></td>\n </tr>\n <tr>\n <td>\n <p><span>看待AI周期</span></p></td>\n <td>\n <p><span>技术进步可能伴随多轮繁荣与调整</span></p></td>\n <td>\n <p><span>看好长期浪潮,接受阶段性回调</span></p></td>\n </tr>\n <tr>\n <td>\n <p><span>对热门资产的态度</span></p></td>\n <td>\n <p><span>留意价格,也寻找被忽视的机会</span></p></td>\n <td>\n <p><span>重视参与机会,同时跟踪估值与产业变化</span></p></td>\n </tr>\n </tbody>\n </table>\n <p><span>以上是对公开表述的归纳,并不代表他们每一笔交易的决策过程。</span></p>\n <p><span><span>我的取舍是:用但斌的视角找方向,用李录的纪律检查价格。</span></span></p>\n <p><span>放到我关注的存储、光模块和电力上,看到AI需求增长,我会继续往下问:</span></p>\n <p><span>需求最后落到谁的订单里?公司能留住多少利润?赚来的现金,会不会又全部拿去扩产?</span></p>\n <p><span>尤其是硬件公司,如果供给增加得更快,行业需求增长和股东回报之间,仍然可能出现很大的落差。</span></p>\n <p><span>我愿意为技术进步付钱,但不愿把最乐观的未来一次性付清。长期持有的底气,要能在订单、利润和现金流里找到。</span></p>\n</div>\n<br>\n 文章原文 \n<br><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1a3bb3e11216479f8343b04fac6b7265\"></body></html>","text":"按李录10月5日哥大交流,对照但斌8月13日直播中的AI投资观点来写。以下是公开内容的概括和我的判断。 李录与但斌:同样讲长期投资,买入前想的事情有什么不同? 最近看了李录在哥大的交流整理,再对照但斌今年谈AI投资的观点,我觉得很值得放在一起看。 两个人都相信优秀企业能创造长期回报。我的理解是:李录更强调买入时留多少余地,但斌更强调抓住产业变化的机会。 李录这次交流,有四个重点。 第一,先想清楚自己靠什么赚钱。 买股票,就意味着持有一家公司的部分所有权。研究它怎么赚钱、竞争力能持续多久,也要知道自己有哪些问题还没弄懂。能力圈的边界和安全边际,都是长期持有的前提。 第二,AI的账,最终还是要算。 李录认可AI的巨大价值,同时提醒:它需要持续投入,成本、收入和利润之间的关系不会消失。技术向前发展,资本市场仍可能经历多轮繁荣与调整。 这对投资很实际。一个产品很好用,距离股东赚到钱,中间还有定价、竞争和资本开支好几道关。 第三,大家都挤在热门公司里,别处可能出现机会。 李录认为,资金高度集中时,一些优秀企业会被冷落。保持独立判断的人,可以从这种分化中找到价格更有吸引力的生意。 第四,财富要用购买力衡量。 账户数字增长之外,更重要的是它能买到多少东西。他的长期目标,是通过持有优秀企业,保住并提高自己在全球购买力中的份额。 再看但斌,他的关注点更偏向产业趋势。 他把AI视为十年以上的技术浪潮,认为短期回调可能发生在长期增长过程中,过度担心波动也可能让人错过机会。同时,他也明确提到要考虑估值,并跟踪企业季报、供需变化和资本开支。 把两人的侧重点放在一起,我会这样理解: 比较维度 李录 但斌 研究入口 看懂企业,判断价值,留安全边际 判断产业趋势,寻找核心受益企业 看待AI周期 技术进步可能伴随多轮繁荣与调整 看好长期浪潮,接受阶段性回调 对热门资产的态度 留意价格,也寻找被忽视的机会 重视参与机会,同时跟踪估值与产业变化 以上是对公开表述的归纳,并不代表他们每一笔交易的决策过程。 我的取舍是:用但斌的视角找方向,用李录的纪律检查价格。 放到我关注的存储、光模块和电力上,看到AI需求增长,我会继续往下问: 需求最后落到谁的订单里?公司能留住多少利润?赚来的现金,会不会又全部拿去扩产? 尤其是硬件公司,如果供给增加得更快,行业需求增长和股东回报之间,仍然可能出现很大的落差。 我愿意为技术进步付钱,但不愿把最乐观的未来一次性付清。长期持有的底气,要能在订单、利润和现金流里找到。 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