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飞飞618
01-02
2024年就这样过去吧:11月、12月在超微电脑和12月在coin base的期权上做反了方向,回撤巨大,有需要深刻反思了。
飞飞618
01-02
2024年就这样过去吧:11月、12月在超微电脑和12月在coin base的期权上做反了方向,回撤巨大,有需要深刻反思了。
飞飞618
2024-12-09
$SPXW 20241231 6080.0 PUT$
大概率短期要调整了。
飞飞618
2024-12-03
利空被证伪就是利好,按道理应该涨回之前的平台,加上美股的生态,看好。
飞飞618
2024-11-19
关于超微电脑sell call操作的一些思考: 截至目前,对目前的期权情况走了一个大致的判断。第一,昨天之前,权利金价格为什么如此之高?是因为市场对是否能出具财报从而是否退市带来的不确定性的定价,所以今天以后,期权的all和put的买方大概率都吃亏(权利金太贵,类似于特朗普当选后的特朗普科技)。第二,今晚开始,IV(波动率)会下降,再做期权的卖方可能就不划算,。第三,今晚如何操作?思考超微电脑利好落地后,后续是否还有边际变化?目前看大概率没有。加上美股有调整压力(主观判断),后续易跌难涨。如果开盘call的价格快速大幅度上涨,我会继续sell call。
飞飞618
2024-11-19
$超微电脑(SMCI)$
今晚的期权波动率应该会显著下降,之前期权卖方最受益。
飞飞618
2024-11-18
一些思考:虽然这次在美团sell put上折戟沉沙,还是收货了挺多思考的: 1.港股是一个上有顶的市场,这一点和美股完全不一样。sell call看似风险很大,但在大涨之后的港股市场极为有效,今年sell call 在中芯、融创上大获成功。 2.反过来,sell put在大涨之后的港股市场就比较悲剧了,即使美团这类好公司,期权的时间价值依然远不能覆盖跌幅。以后需要特别谨慎。 总体上,港股估值低是优势,但估值低不代表上线,还是一个比较边缘的市场。
飞飞618
2024-11-15
$超微电脑 STRANGLE 241122 PUT 17.0/CALL 19.0$
期权费比较贵,且市场比较充分地反应了负面预期。那就拉高卖出看涨期权的行权价,拉低卖出看跌期权的行权价,试一试,纯投机。
飞飞618
2024-11-15
太神奇了,为啥到了行权价的看跌期权买方没有行权,把期权费拱手让给我了?百思不得其解……望有懂的大佬告知。
飞飞618
2024-11-14
理论上风险无限大的操作方式——不吃有正股,sell call,谈谈对sell call的想法: 1.回顾这次sell call之旅,标的的选择毫无疑问是重中之重,选择了特朗普科技、特斯拉、coinbase三家公司。三家公司的共同点是短期涨幅大(一周百分之几十)、投资者关注度高、预期极为一致(继续看涨)。因为关注度高、预期一致,该买入的投资者基本都买入,短期反而容易出现反转且期权费极高(三家公司的期权费近一年的分位数都达到90%以上,有时甚至是100%),因此,拉高sell call的行权价,是一种比较好的投资(投机)方式。 2.sell的时机很重要。期权的卖方,自然希望期权费越高越好,啥时候期权费高?股价大幅上涨的时候。所以,克服恐惧,股价快速上涨的时候,看涨期权的涨幅代表了更乐观的预期,放平心态sell call就好。 3.最后,千万千万控制好仓位,不要因为贪婪把仓位打得太满从而导致被动平仓。
飞飞618
2024-11-13
一些思考:做投资尤其是做期权投资,需要有逆向思维但又不能逆向得太早。 当股价朝着有利于自己的方向变动时(期权卖方),放下贪婪,别浮盈不断加仓最后保证金不足,在黎明前的黑暗被动平仓。 当股价朝着不利于自己的方向变动时(期权卖方),放下恐惧,重新梳理卖出逻辑,当时开仓的理由还成不成立?如果不成立,不管盈亏,果断平掉;如果还成立,留好保证金(也要谨慎加仓)等待即可,期权的时间价值相当于杯子里冰块,时间一到,冰都会融化成水,都是你的。
飞飞618
2024-11-12
$特朗普媒体科技集团 STRANGLE 241115 CALL 35.0/PUT 28.0$
在下跌9%的时候,sell put,把另外一条腿补上。 一些思考:期权投资一定要“逆势而为”,股价上涨,看涨期权贵而看跌期权便宜,多思考卖看涨或者买看跌;股价下跌,看跌期权贵而看涨期权便宜,多思考卖看跌或者买看涨。要么站在时间的一边(期权卖方),要么以小博大(便宜的期权费买赔率)。
飞飞618
2024-11-11
一些思考:通过sell put的方式做多标普500波动率以对冲美股持仓的风险。 标普500vix已经回落到15以下,一般来说,vix大部分时间在15-25之间波动,并且呈现出急涨慢跌的特点。通过sell put的方式,一方面获取权利金的保护,即使在vix缓慢回落的过程中能弥补部分损失;另一方面,可以把行权价设的略微高一些,出现脉冲式上涨时,可以收货更多的权利金。总体上,低于15的vix,是值得密切关注的。
飞飞618
2024-11-11
一些思考: 1.开盘前半小时波动大,乐观的会更乐观,悲观的会更悲观。因此,如果非要交易期权,买方尽量选在交易时间的中段(如港股选择下午),卖方尽量选在交易时间的前段(如港股选择上午早些),运气好还好碰到错误定价的机会。 2.港股是有顶的(机构定价),sell call的风险没有想象的那么大,但前提是多头有标的对冲,且在波动率高的时候sell call。
飞飞618
2024-11-07
$特朗普媒体科技集团(DJT)$
回顾这次卖出DJT看涨期权之旅,绝对的刺激,又有经验教训可以总结了: 1.初心:当机会来临的时候,不要用针顶,而要用盆接。当一个没有基本面支撑的个股,由于特朗普交易,底部涨了5倍,一周多到期的平值期权期权费价格为股价的25%-30%,选择期权的买方还是卖方?毫无意义,卖方,期权费给了足够厚的安全边际。选择卖出看涨还是卖出看跌,卖出看涨,没有基本面的公司没有理由看涨,且当时特朗普交易已经明显过热。 2.经验教训:一定一定要控制好仓位,不要贪。由于仓位过重,正股大涨时,中间爆了一次仓,被动平了几手,极为可惜。 3.思考:投资赚的是什么钱?赚认知的钱太难,需要对一个东西有独到的见解,研究还要有前瞻性、深度,这个对个人投资者太难了。赚常识的钱容易,承受波动、尊重常识即可。
飞飞618
2024-11-03
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飞飞618
2024-11-02
$DJT 20241108 50.0 CALL$
又是通过常识即可判断的一次投资:1.一家没有基本面、亏损的公司,底部涨起来5倍,特朗普交易已经做到了极致,这时候是看多还是看空?2.一周后到期权费达到了股价的25%,是做期权的买方还是卖方?3.即使特朗普当选,有没有过度预期?是否会变成利好兑现的走势? 综上,卖出看涨期权风险不大,把行权价拉高,还有期权费保护,仓位控制住,相当于又是市场送的一次捡钱的机会——机会来了不要用针顶,而要用盆接。投资有时候赚的是认知的钱,这个太难了;有时候赚的钱承担(波动的钱),这个相对容易,但是在情绪面前(贪婪、恐惧),很多依靠常识能做出的决定,反而不敢做了。
飞飞618
2024-10-31
$DJT 20241108 50.0 CALL$
基本上是捡钱的机会了…控制好仓位,千载难逢
飞飞618
2024-10-30
10.7以来,在持有潮玩、互联网、资源品多头的同时,卖出中芯和融创的看涨期权,港股公司在估值明显偏高的时候,修正会比a股快。且期权费相当于股价的20%+,这波还是完整吃到了。 还是那句话,机会来的时候,不要用针顶,而要用盆接。今天资金回来后,晚上可以卖出特朗普科技的看涨期权了~
飞飞618
2024-10-28
刚对中芯国际的卖出看涨期权换了下仓,感觉行权价29的看涨期权的时间价值异常高,试一下。
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call操作的一些思考: 截至目前,对目前的期权情况走了一个大致的判断。第一,昨天之前,权利金价格为什么如此之高?是因为市场对是否能出具财报从而是否退市带来的不确定性的定价,所以今天以后,期权的all和put的买方大概率都吃亏(权利金太贵,类似于特朗普当选后的特朗普科技)。第二,今晚开始,IV(波动率)会下降,再做期权的卖方可能就不划算,。第三,今晚如何操作?思考超微电脑利好落地后,后续是否还有边际变化?目前看大概率没有。加上美股有调整压力(主观判断),后续易跌难涨。如果开盘call的价格快速大幅度上涨,我会继续sell call。","listText":"关于超微电脑sell call操作的一些思考: 截至目前,对目前的期权情况走了一个大致的判断。第一,昨天之前,权利金价格为什么如此之高?是因为市场对是否能出具财报从而是否退市带来的不确定性的定价,所以今天以后,期权的all和put的买方大概率都吃亏(权利金太贵,类似于特朗普当选后的特朗普科技)。第二,今晚开始,IV(波动率)会下降,再做期权的卖方可能就不划算,。第三,今晚如何操作?思考超微电脑利好落地后,后续是否还有边际变化?目前看大概率没有。加上美股有调整压力(主观判断),后续易跌难涨。如果开盘call的价格快速大幅度上涨,我会继续sell call。","text":"关于超微电脑sell call操作的一些思考: 截至目前,对目前的期权情况走了一个大致的判断。第一,昨天之前,权利金价格为什么如此之高?是因为市场对是否能出具财报从而是否退市带来的不确定性的定价,所以今天以后,期权的all和put的买方大概率都吃亏(权利金太贵,类似于特朗普当选后的特朗普科技)。第二,今晚开始,IV(波动率)会下降,再做期权的卖方可能就不划算,。第三,今晚如何操作?思考超微电脑利好落地后,后续是否还有边际变化?目前看大概率没有。加上美股有调整压力(主观判断),后续易跌难涨。如果开盘call的价格快速大幅度上涨,我会继续sell call。","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":6,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/372775655977048","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":6605,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"9000000000000288","authorId":"9000000000000288","name":"康德的的的","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/124ddb27832ad3a5d8aa835fe6bb7572","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"9000000000000288","idStr":"9000000000000288"},"content":"思路很清晰。不过,卖call风险得考虑清楚,万一行情反转就麻烦了","text":"思路很清晰。不过,卖call风险得考虑清楚,万一行情反转就麻烦了","html":"思路很清晰。不过,卖call风险得考虑清楚,万一行情反转就麻烦了"},{"author":{"id":"4088626949262520","authorId":"4088626949262520","name":"Inmoretion","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b1c0fdec2b419399e39fd0a7b103ef63","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"4088626949262520","idStr":"4088626949262520"},"content":"感觉短期利好出尽了。多少会有下调","text":"感觉短期利好出尽了。多少会有下调","html":"感觉短期利好出尽了。多少会有下调"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":372774153052192,"gmtCreate":1732018834561,"gmtModify":1732018836944,"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a 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put上折戟沉沙,还是收货了挺多思考的: 1.港股是一个上有顶的市场,这一点和美股完全不一样。sell call看似风险很大,但在大涨之后的港股市场极为有效,今年sell call 在中芯、融创上大获成功。 2.反过来,sell put在大涨之后的港股市场就比较悲剧了,即使美团这类好公司,期权的时间价值依然远不能覆盖跌幅。以后需要特别谨慎。 总体上,港股估值低是优势,但估值低不代表上线,还是一个比较边缘的市场。","listText":"一些思考:虽然这次在美团sell put上折戟沉沙,还是收货了挺多思考的: 1.港股是一个上有顶的市场,这一点和美股完全不一样。sell call看似风险很大,但在大涨之后的港股市场极为有效,今年sell call 在中芯、融创上大获成功。 2.反过来,sell put在大涨之后的港股市场就比较悲剧了,即使美团这类好公司,期权的时间价值依然远不能覆盖跌幅。以后需要特别谨慎。 总体上,港股估值低是优势,但估值低不代表上线,还是一个比较边缘的市场。","text":"一些思考:虽然这次在美团sell put上折戟沉沙,还是收货了挺多思考的: 1.港股是一个上有顶的市场,这一点和美股完全不一样。sell call看似风险很大,但在大涨之后的港股市场极为有效,今年sell call 在中芯、融创上大获成功。 2.反过来,sell put在大涨之后的港股市场就比较悲剧了,即使美团这类好公司,期权的时间价值依然远不能覆盖跌幅。以后需要特别谨慎。 总体上,港股估值低是优势,但估值低不代表上线,还是一个比较边缘的市场。","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/372332158411024","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":630,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"content":"港股sell put,被锤的刻骨铭心…","text":"港股sell put,被锤的刻骨铭心…","html":"港股sell 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期权费比较贵,且市场比较充分地反应了负面预期。那就拉高卖出看涨期权的行权价,拉低卖出看跌期权的行权价,试一试,纯投机。","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/eadec28360a565b3b6725625139b9e51","width":"981","height":"1637"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":22,"commentSize":5,"repostSize":2,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/371275360260392","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":10740,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3497823258884148","authorId":"3497823258884148","name":"华尔街的同志们","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1e567306e92e984db763f8cbda4fec44","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"3497823258884148","idStr":"3497823258884148"},"content":"你敢卖call?找死","text":"你敢卖call?找死","html":"你敢卖call?找死"}],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":371381259182336,"gmtCreate":1731678409768,"gmtModify":1731678418673,"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"太神奇了,为啥到了行权价的看跌期权买方没有行权,把期权费拱手让给我了?百思不得其解……望有懂的大佬告知。","listText":"太神奇了,为啥到了行权价的看跌期权买方没有行权,把期权费拱手让给我了?百思不得其解……望有懂的大佬告知。","text":"太神奇了,为啥到了行权价的看跌期权买方没有行权,把期权费拱手让给我了?百思不得其解……望有懂的大佬告知。","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/91afec7902f2d16f7202f78389749354","width":"1206","height":"2622"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/371381259182336","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":668,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":371040000008256,"gmtCreate":1731599733629,"gmtModify":1731638065785,"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"理论上风险无限大的操作方式——不吃有正股,sell call,谈谈对sell call的想法: 1.回顾这次sell call之旅,标的的选择毫无疑问是重中之重,选择了特朗普科技、特斯拉、coinbase三家公司。三家公司的共同点是短期涨幅大(一周百分之几十)、投资者关注度高、预期极为一致(继续看涨)。因为关注度高、预期一致,该买入的投资者基本都买入,短期反而容易出现反转且期权费极高(三家公司的期权费近一年的分位数都达到90%以上,有时甚至是100%),因此,拉高sell call的行权价,是一种比较好的投资(投机)方式。 2.sell的时机很重要。期权的卖方,自然希望期权费越高越好,啥时候期权费高?股价大幅上涨的时候。所以,克服恐惧,股价快速上涨的时候,看涨期权的涨幅代表了更乐观的预期,放平心态sell call就好。 3.最后,千万千万控制好仓位,不要因为贪婪把仓位打得太满从而导致被动平仓。","listText":"理论上风险无限大的操作方式——不吃有正股,sell call,谈谈对sell call的想法: 1.回顾这次sell call之旅,标的的选择毫无疑问是重中之重,选择了特朗普科技、特斯拉、coinbase三家公司。三家公司的共同点是短期涨幅大(一周百分之几十)、投资者关注度高、预期极为一致(继续看涨)。因为关注度高、预期一致,该买入的投资者基本都买入,短期反而容易出现反转且期权费极高(三家公司的期权费近一年的分位数都达到90%以上,有时甚至是100%),因此,拉高sell call的行权价,是一种比较好的投资(投机)方式。 2.sell的时机很重要。期权的卖方,自然希望期权费越高越好,啥时候期权费高?股价大幅上涨的时候。所以,克服恐惧,股价快速上涨的时候,看涨期权的涨幅代表了更乐观的预期,放平心态sell call就好。 3.最后,千万千万控制好仓位,不要因为贪婪把仓位打得太满从而导致被动平仓。","text":"理论上风险无限大的操作方式——不吃有正股,sell call,谈谈对sell call的想法: 1.回顾这次sell call之旅,标的的选择毫无疑问是重中之重,选择了特朗普科技、特斯拉、coinbase三家公司。三家公司的共同点是短期涨幅大(一周百分之几十)、投资者关注度高、预期极为一致(继续看涨)。因为关注度高、预期一致,该买入的投资者基本都买入,短期反而容易出现反转且期权费极高(三家公司的期权费近一年的分位数都达到90%以上,有时甚至是100%),因此,拉高sell call的行权价,是一种比较好的投资(投机)方式。 2.sell的时机很重要。期权的卖方,自然希望期权费越高越好,啥时候期权费高?股价大幅上涨的时候。所以,克服恐惧,股价快速上涨的时候,看涨期权的涨幅代表了更乐观的预期,放平心态sell call就好。 3.最后,千万千万控制好仓位,不要因为贪婪把仓位打得太满从而导致被动平仓。","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/371040000008256","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":7211,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"content":"漏了一个,sell call永远是阶段性之举(看空),千万不要浮盈加仓,且只能阶段性去做。","text":"漏了一个,sell call永远是阶段性之举(看空),千万不要浮盈加仓,且只能阶段性去做。","html":"漏了一个,sell call永远是阶段性之举(看空),千万不要浮盈加仓,且只能阶段性去做。"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":370675452108912,"gmtCreate":1731510736936,"gmtModify":1731510740276,"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"一些思考:做投资尤其是做期权投资,需要有逆向思维但又不能逆向得太早。 当股价朝着有利于自己的方向变动时(期权卖方),放下贪婪,别浮盈不断加仓最后保证金不足,在黎明前的黑暗被动平仓。 当股价朝着不利于自己的方向变动时(期权卖方),放下恐惧,重新梳理卖出逻辑,当时开仓的理由还成不成立?如果不成立,不管盈亏,果断平掉;如果还成立,留好保证金(也要谨慎加仓)等待即可,期权的时间价值相当于杯子里冰块,时间一到,冰都会融化成水,都是你的。","listText":"一些思考:做投资尤其是做期权投资,需要有逆向思维但又不能逆向得太早。 当股价朝着有利于自己的方向变动时(期权卖方),放下贪婪,别浮盈不断加仓最后保证金不足,在黎明前的黑暗被动平仓。 当股价朝着不利于自己的方向变动时(期权卖方),放下恐惧,重新梳理卖出逻辑,当时开仓的理由还成不成立?如果不成立,不管盈亏,果断平掉;如果还成立,留好保证金(也要谨慎加仓)等待即可,期权的时间价值相当于杯子里冰块,时间一到,冰都会融化成水,都是你的。","text":"一些思考:做投资尤其是做期权投资,需要有逆向思维但又不能逆向得太早。 当股价朝着有利于自己的方向变动时(期权卖方),放下贪婪,别浮盈不断加仓最后保证金不足,在黎明前的黑暗被动平仓。 当股价朝着不利于自己的方向变动时(期权卖方),放下恐惧,重新梳理卖出逻辑,当时开仓的理由还成不成立?如果不成立,不管盈亏,果断平掉;如果还成立,留好保证金(也要谨慎加仓)等待即可,期权的时间价值相当于杯子里冰块,时间一到,冰都会融化成水,都是你的。","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/370675452108912","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":872,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":370207296901640,"gmtCreate":1731424856116,"gmtModify":1731424896546,"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/OPT/DJT 20241115 28.0 PUT SELL 1 | DJT 20241115 35.0 CALL SELL 1\">$特朗普媒体科技集团 STRANGLE 241115 CALL 35.0/PUT 28.0$</a> 在下跌9%的时候,sell put,把另外一条腿补上。 一些思考:期权投资一定要“逆势而为”,股价上涨,看涨期权贵而看跌期权便宜,多思考卖看涨或者买看跌;股价下跌,看跌期权贵而看涨期权便宜,多思考卖看跌或者买看涨。要么站在时间的一边(期权卖方),要么以小博大(便宜的期权费买赔率)。","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/OPT/DJT 20241115 28.0 PUT SELL 1 | DJT 20241115 35.0 CALL SELL 1\">$特朗普媒体科技集团 STRANGLE 241115 CALL 35.0/PUT 28.0$</a> 在下跌9%的时候,sell put,把另外一条腿补上。 一些思考:期权投资一定要“逆势而为”,股价上涨,看涨期权贵而看跌期权便宜,多思考卖看涨或者买看跌;股价下跌,看跌期权贵而看涨期权便宜,多思考卖看跌或者买看涨。要么站在时间的一边(期权卖方),要么以小博大(便宜的期权费买赔率)。","text":"$特朗普媒体科技集团 STRANGLE 241115 CALL 35.0/PUT 28.0$ 在下跌9%的时候,sell put,把另外一条腿补上。 一些思考:期权投资一定要“逆势而为”,股价上涨,看涨期权贵而看跌期权便宜,多思考卖看涨或者买看跌;股价下跌,看跌期权贵而看涨期权便宜,多思考卖看跌或者买看涨。要么站在时间的一边(期权卖方),要么以小博大(便宜的期权费买赔率)。","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9ab81f0c05fdc672eab6ef25487bbca5","width":"981","height":"1637"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":25,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":1,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/370207296901640","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":10655,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":369875007730064,"gmtCreate":1731319217580,"gmtModify":1731320811687,"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"一些思考:通过sell put的方式做多标普500波动率以对冲美股持仓的风险。 标普500vix已经回落到15以下,一般来说,vix大部分时间在15-25之间波动,并且呈现出急涨慢跌的特点。通过sell put的方式,一方面获取权利金的保护,即使在vix缓慢回落的过程中能弥补部分损失;另一方面,可以把行权价设的略微高一些,出现脉冲式上涨时,可以收货更多的权利金。总体上,低于15的vix,是值得密切关注的。","listText":"一些思考:通过sell put的方式做多标普500波动率以对冲美股持仓的风险。 标普500vix已经回落到15以下,一般来说,vix大部分时间在15-25之间波动,并且呈现出急涨慢跌的特点。通过sell put的方式,一方面获取权利金的保护,即使在vix缓慢回落的过程中能弥补部分损失;另一方面,可以把行权价设的略微高一些,出现脉冲式上涨时,可以收货更多的权利金。总体上,低于15的vix,是值得密切关注的。","text":"一些思考:通过sell put的方式做多标普500波动率以对冲美股持仓的风险。 标普500vix已经回落到15以下,一般来说,vix大部分时间在15-25之间波动,并且呈现出急涨慢跌的特点。通过sell put的方式,一方面获取权利金的保护,即使在vix缓慢回落的过程中能弥补部分损失;另一方面,可以把行权价设的略微高一些,出现脉冲式上涨时,可以收货更多的权利金。总体上,低于15的vix,是值得密切关注的。","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/369875007730064","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":6495,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":369827381493896,"gmtCreate":1731307480211,"gmtModify":1731310157572,"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"一些思考: 1.开盘前半小时波动大,乐观的会更乐观,悲观的会更悲观。因此,如果非要交易期权,买方尽量选在交易时间的中段(如港股选择下午),卖方尽量选在交易时间的前段(如港股选择上午早些),运气好还好碰到错误定价的机会。 2.港股是有顶的(机构定价),sell call的风险没有想象的那么大,但前提是多头有标的对冲,且在波动率高的时候sell call。","listText":"一些思考: 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1.对中概的贝塔不要抱有任何幻想。中概受到中国经济和政策、美联储流动性、中美关系三重影响,一有风吹草动,波动巨大,当主升浪走完之后,要迅速切回长期胜率高的美股,保住胜利果实(这次贪了一个星期导致了巨大的回撤)。主升浪是否走完可以参考港股互联网走势及政策边际变化情况。 2.选择期权,一定要关注期权的流动性。中概股的个股期权,买进去容易,退出来难,尤其是买方。如果卖出期权,做好期权到期准备,否则方向错误平仓的成本巨大。 3.方向看不清楚的情况下,慎重做期权买方,方向错误就将万劫不复。","listText":"回顾这轮期权过山车之旅,还是有很多地方值得总结的: 1.对中概的贝塔不要抱有任何幻想。中概受到中国经济和政策、美联储流动性、中美关系三重影响,一有风吹草动,波动巨大,当主升浪走完之后,要迅速切回长期胜率高的美股,保住胜利果实(这次贪了一个星期导致了巨大的回撤)。主升浪是否走完可以参考港股互联网走势及政策边际变化情况。 2.选择期权,一定要关注期权的流动性。中概股的个股期权,买进去容易,退出来难,尤其是买方。如果卖出期权,做好期权到期准备,否则方向错误平仓的成本巨大。 3.方向看不清楚的情况下,慎重做期权买方,方向错误就将万劫不复。","text":"回顾这轮期权过山车之旅,还是有很多地方值得总结的: 1.对中概的贝塔不要抱有任何幻想。中概受到中国经济和政策、美联储流动性、中美关系三重影响,一有风吹草动,波动巨大,当主升浪走完之后,要迅速切回长期胜率高的美股,保住胜利果实(这次贪了一个星期导致了巨大的回撤)。主升浪是否走完可以参考港股互联网走势及政策边际变化情况。 2.选择期权,一定要关注期权的流动性。中概股的个股期权,买进去容易,退出来难,尤其是买方。如果卖出期权,做好期权到期准备,否则方向错误平仓的成本巨大。 3.方向看不清楚的情况下,慎重做期权买方,方向错误就将万劫不复。","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a1c5129bd7278bc4d7ed7bd26fd3f9f8","width":"981","height":"1113"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":2,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/359974164242568","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":7353,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"5400656025182","authorId":"5400656025182","name":"vision","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d67e47e5bb77491f2c37ae81c5386950","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"5400656025182","idStr":"5400656025182"},"content":"这个收益有点厉害 你买了啥","text":"这个收益有点厉害 你买了啥","html":"这个收益有点厉害 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4.总结:第一,周期股波动大,切忌追涨杀跌。第二,仓位管理很重要,要么底部重仓越涨越轻仓,要么初始仓位保持不动,最差的就是追涨杀跌。第三,周期股看价格大周期即可,不用盯着每天铝价的波动,想赚差价,到头来得不偿失。","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/958af5a3b2a18d2fba64d9f51ca56bec","width":"1206","height":"2622"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/363421468876936","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":8787,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"9000000000000146","authorId":"9000000000000146","name":"big龙","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0ba92b9c59fc0bce34e05548ce24ca50","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"9000000000000146","idStr":"9000000000000146"},"content":"反思是成长的一种方式,感谢你分享这次投资失误经历","text":"反思是成长的一种方式,感谢你分享这次投资失误经历","html":"反思是成长的一种方式,感谢你分享这次投资失误经历"},{"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"content":"PS:目前不持有宏桥(之前都换成了潮玩),但依然认为宏桥的估值水平低,是铝行业中确定性高、弹性最大的公司。","text":"PS:目前不持有宏桥(之前都换成了潮玩),但依然认为宏桥的估值水平低,是铝行业中确定性高、弹性最大的公司。","html":"PS:目前不持有宏桥(之前都换成了潮玩),但依然认为宏桥的估值水平低,是铝行业中确定性高、弹性最大的公司。"}],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":369827381493896,"gmtCreate":1731307480211,"gmtModify":1731310157572,"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"一些思考: 1.开盘前半小时波动大,乐观的会更乐观,悲观的会更悲观。因此,如果非要交易期权,买方尽量选在交易时间的中段(如港股选择下午),卖方尽量选在交易时间的前段(如港股选择上午早些),运气好还好碰到错误定价的机会。 2.港股是有顶的(机构定价),sell call的风险没有想象的那么大,但前提是多头有标的对冲,且在波动率高的时候sell call。","listText":"一些思考: 1.开盘前半小时波动大,乐观的会更乐观,悲观的会更悲观。因此,如果非要交易期权,买方尽量选在交易时间的中段(如港股选择下午),卖方尽量选在交易时间的前段(如港股选择上午早些),运气好还好碰到错误定价的机会。 2.港股是有顶的(机构定价),sell call的风险没有想象的那么大,但前提是多头有标的对冲,且在波动率高的时候sell call。","text":"一些思考: 1.开盘前半小时波动大,乐观的会更乐观,悲观的会更悲观。因此,如果非要交易期权,买方尽量选在交易时间的中段(如港股选择下午),卖方尽量选在交易时间的前段(如港股选择上午早些),运气好还好碰到错误定价的机会。 2.港股是有顶的(机构定价),sell call的风险没有想象的那么大,但前提是多头有标的对冲,且在波动率高的时候sell 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2.值得反思的地方也有几点:第一,还是担心股价继续涨怎么办,没有卖出实值看涨期权,而是卖出了平值和虚值,没有充分吃到权利金。第二,小心被平仓,小心被平仓,小心被平仓,重要的事情说三遍!即使做期权卖方,仓位也不要打的太慢,上周五中芯大涨,还被动平了几手,回头看有点可惜。第三,不要裸空,即使港股个股的权利金比美股香,也不要单纯去赌方向,否则心态绝对炸裂,多空比建议不低于5:1,长期看,做多才是王道。","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d746c8d290c52e680deff511cc0e2662","width":"1206","height":"2622"},{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/654e2826a12747b4a6b3aa0e2f61e18e","width":"1206","height":"2622"},{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e50bc21f462f9bef74a97c3e53d58a31","width":"1206","height":"2622"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":19,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/363211355119848","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":9177,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":3,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":360904093688048,"gmtCreate":1729136580015,"gmtModify":1729143423896,"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"当机会来临的时候,不要用针顶,而要用盆接。 思考:1.千万不要做空美股,胜率太低。2.可以做空港股高估值、没有基本面支撑个股,胜率比较高。3.不要裸空,多头的比例一定要高于空头,不然心态会受到影响。4.卖出期权,时间尽可能拉长。","listText":"当机会来临的时候,不要用针顶,而要用盆接。 思考:1.千万不要做空美股,胜率太低。2.可以做空港股高估值、没有基本面支撑个股,胜率比较高。3.不要裸空,多头的比例一定要高于空头,不然心态会受到影响。4.卖出期权,时间尽可能拉长。","text":"当机会来临的时候,不要用针顶,而要用盆接。 思考:1.千万不要做空美股,胜率太低。2.可以做空港股高估值、没有基本面支撑个股,胜率比较高。3.不要裸空,多头的比例一定要高于空头,不然心态会受到影响。4.卖出期权,时间尽可能拉长。","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e12f36104e81f3d4de607532a804b19c","width":"981","height":"1637"},{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fd9ecd032bc4036b0f08f4b85ed8e7b3","width":"981","height":"1637"},{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8846a18e8ccc1dea038e36f6d85f06cb","width":"981","height":"1637"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":6,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/360904093688048","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":9090,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3527667577115702","authorId":"3527667577115702","name":"小米死多头","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2c36273dc153f2f9e76fe9da987b5084","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"3527667577115702","idStr":"3527667577115702"},"content":"牛啊 为啥 sell call","text":"牛啊 为啥 sell call","html":"牛啊 为啥 sell call"}],"imageCount":3,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":359413939961872,"gmtCreate":1728788025749,"gmtModify":1728958249955,"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/OPT/SMC.HK 20241030 33.00 CALL\">$SMC.HK 20241030 33.00 CALL$</a> 10.7当时有三个想法:1.空港股的中芯。估值实在贵的离谱,a股中芯又连续涨了3个20%,短线过度透支。2.空港股的融创。对于一家底部涨5倍的破产地产公司,空是送钱的机会。3.空港股的招商证券,港股在10.7估值比a股还贵。最后因为招证没有期权而放弃。","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/OPT/SMC.HK 20241030 33.00 CALL\">$SMC.HK 20241030 33.00 CALL$</a> 10.7当时有三个想法:1.空港股的中芯。估值实在贵的离谱,a股中芯又连续涨了3个20%,短线过度透支。2.空港股的融创。对于一家底部涨5倍的破产地产公司,空是送钱的机会。3.空港股的招商证券,港股在10.7估值比a股还贵。最后因为招证没有期权而放弃。","text":"$SMC.HK 20241030 33.00 CALL$ 10.7当时有三个想法:1.空港股的中芯。估值实在贵的离谱,a股中芯又连续涨了3个20%,短线过度透支。2.空港股的融创。对于一家底部涨5倍的破产地产公司,空是送钱的机会。3.空港股的招商证券,港股在10.7估值比a股还贵。最后因为招证没有期权而放弃。","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7dde290580a739706767b588cb410fc0","width":"981","height":"1637"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":1,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/359413939961872","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":7538,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3561599612759488","authorId":"3561599612759488","name":"跟着有肉吃","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ea93e31400ba01a0fd79b574eb5cfec6","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"3561599612759488","idStr":"3561599612759488"},"content":"所以都错过了","text":"所以都错过了","html":"所以都错过了"}],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":363097416454384,"gmtCreate":1729672109756,"gmtModify":1729673497600,"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/09992\">$泡泡玛特(09992)$ </a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v> 三季度业绩预告出来之后,市场对泡泡玛特更加乐观,讨论从之前的是否会涨变成了估值是否偏高。 个人认为,对于成长股投资,成长阶段不要过于关注行业竞争格局和静态估值水平,只要增速不放缓,抱团大概率都不瓦解(市场别太差),后续跟踪季报增速即可。","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/09992\">$泡泡玛特(09992)$ </a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v> 三季度业绩预告出来之后,市场对泡泡玛特更加乐观,讨论从之前的是否会涨变成了估值是否偏高。 个人认为,对于成长股投资,成长阶段不要过于关注行业竞争格局和静态估值水平,只要增速不放缓,抱团大概率都不瓦解(市场别太差),后续跟踪季报增速即可。","text":"$泡泡玛特(09992)$ 三季度业绩预告出来之后,市场对泡泡玛特更加乐观,讨论从之前的是否会涨变成了估值是否偏高。 个人认为,对于成长股投资,成长阶段不要过于关注行业竞争格局和静态估值水平,只要增速不放缓,抱团大概率都不瓦解(市场别太差),后续跟踪季报增速即可。","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":4,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/363097416454384","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":14428,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"9000000000000157","authorId":"9000000000000157","name":"小狗摩天轮","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0965d3709fcccd732467fba87aa4ea6e","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"9000000000000157","idStr":"9000000000000157"},"content":"同意你的观点,成长股的投资主要还是看公司的增速和前景,不需要过于担心行业竞争和估值","text":"同意你的观点,成长股的投资主要还是看公司的增速和前景,不需要过于担心行业竞争和估值","html":"同意你的观点,成长股的投资主要还是看公司的增速和前景,不需要过于担心行业竞争和估值"},{"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"content":"PS:持有泡泡,有屁股决定脑袋之嫌。","text":"PS:持有泡泡,有屁股决定脑袋之嫌。","html":"PS:持有泡泡,有屁股决定脑袋之嫌。"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":372775655977048,"gmtCreate":1732019203328,"gmtModify":1732070124654,"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"关于超微电脑sell call操作的一些思考: 截至目前,对目前的期权情况走了一个大致的判断。第一,昨天之前,权利金价格为什么如此之高?是因为市场对是否能出具财报从而是否退市带来的不确定性的定价,所以今天以后,期权的all和put的买方大概率都吃亏(权利金太贵,类似于特朗普当选后的特朗普科技)。第二,今晚开始,IV(波动率)会下降,再做期权的卖方可能就不划算,。第三,今晚如何操作?思考超微电脑利好落地后,后续是否还有边际变化?目前看大概率没有。加上美股有调整压力(主观判断),后续易跌难涨。如果开盘call的价格快速大幅度上涨,我会继续sell call。","listText":"关于超微电脑sell call操作的一些思考: 截至目前,对目前的期权情况走了一个大致的判断。第一,昨天之前,权利金价格为什么如此之高?是因为市场对是否能出具财报从而是否退市带来的不确定性的定价,所以今天以后,期权的all和put的买方大概率都吃亏(权利金太贵,类似于特朗普当选后的特朗普科技)。第二,今晚开始,IV(波动率)会下降,再做期权的卖方可能就不划算,。第三,今晚如何操作?思考超微电脑利好落地后,后续是否还有边际变化?目前看大概率没有。加上美股有调整压力(主观判断),后续易跌难涨。如果开盘call的价格快速大幅度上涨,我会继续sell call。","text":"关于超微电脑sell call操作的一些思考: 截至目前,对目前的期权情况走了一个大致的判断。第一,昨天之前,权利金价格为什么如此之高?是因为市场对是否能出具财报从而是否退市带来的不确定性的定价,所以今天以后,期权的all和put的买方大概率都吃亏(权利金太贵,类似于特朗普当选后的特朗普科技)。第二,今晚开始,IV(波动率)会下降,再做期权的卖方可能就不划算,。第三,今晚如何操作?思考超微电脑利好落地后,后续是否还有边际变化?目前看大概率没有。加上美股有调整压力(主观判断),后续易跌难涨。如果开盘call的价格快速大幅度上涨,我会继续sell call。","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":6,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/372775655977048","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":6605,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"9000000000000288","authorId":"9000000000000288","name":"康德的的的","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/124ddb27832ad3a5d8aa835fe6bb7572","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"9000000000000288","idStr":"9000000000000288"},"content":"思路很清晰。不过,卖call风险得考虑清楚,万一行情反转就麻烦了","text":"思路很清晰。不过,卖call风险得考虑清楚,万一行情反转就麻烦了","html":"思路很清晰。不过,卖call风险得考虑清楚,万一行情反转就麻烦了"},{"author":{"id":"4088626949262520","authorId":"4088626949262520","name":"Inmoretion","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b1c0fdec2b419399e39fd0a7b103ef63","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"4088626949262520","idStr":"4088626949262520"},"content":"感觉短期利好出尽了。多少会有下调","text":"感觉短期利好出尽了。多少会有下调","html":"感觉短期利好出尽了。多少会有下调"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":359969580429608,"gmtCreate":1728915014892,"gmtModify":1728957922193,"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/OPT/PDD 20241018 143.0 PUT\">$PDD 20241018 143.0 PUT$</a> 拼多多卖出看跌期权止损出局,中概主升浪大概率走完,重心要回到美股了。","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/OPT/PDD 20241018 143.0 PUT\">$PDD 20241018 143.0 PUT$</a> 拼多多卖出看跌期权止损出局,中概主升浪大概率走完,重心要回到美股了。","text":"$PDD 20241018 143.0 PUT$ 拼多多卖出看跌期权止损出局,中概主升浪大概率走完,重心要回到美股了。","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/271156ff9595f4175b6d25f3e9809691","width":"981","height":"1637"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/359969580429608","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":6346,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3518883278973010","authorId":"3518883278973010","name":"alteppa","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a41746c6c3a258c8834295d28bb27164","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"3518883278973010","idStr":"3518883278973010"},"content":"这......倒在大跌前","text":"这......倒在大跌前","html":"这......倒在大跌前"}],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":368176603435288,"gmtCreate":1730911642957,"gmtModify":1730940957585,"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/DJT\">$特朗普媒体科技集团(DJT)$ </a><v-v data-views=\"0\"></v-v> 回顾这次卖出DJT看涨期权之旅,绝对的刺激,又有经验教训可以总结了: 1.初心:当机会来临的时候,不要用针顶,而要用盆接。当一个没有基本面支撑的个股,由于特朗普交易,底部涨了5倍,一周多到期的平值期权期权费价格为股价的25%-30%,选择期权的买方还是卖方?毫无意义,卖方,期权费给了足够厚的安全边际。选择卖出看涨还是卖出看跌,卖出看涨,没有基本面的公司没有理由看涨,且当时特朗普交易已经明显过热。 2.经验教训:一定一定要控制好仓位,不要贪。由于仓位过重,正股大涨时,中间爆了一次仓,被动平了几手,极为可惜。 3.思考:投资赚的是什么钱?赚认知的钱太难,需要对一个东西有独到的见解,研究还要有前瞻性、深度,这个对个人投资者太难了。赚常识的钱容易,承受波动、尊重常识即可。","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/DJT\">$特朗普媒体科技集团(DJT)$ </a><v-v data-views=\"0\"></v-v> 回顾这次卖出DJT看涨期权之旅,绝对的刺激,又有经验教训可以总结了: 1.初心:当机会来临的时候,不要用针顶,而要用盆接。当一个没有基本面支撑的个股,由于特朗普交易,底部涨了5倍,一周多到期的平值期权期权费价格为股价的25%-30%,选择期权的买方还是卖方?毫无意义,卖方,期权费给了足够厚的安全边际。选择卖出看涨还是卖出看跌,卖出看涨,没有基本面的公司没有理由看涨,且当时特朗普交易已经明显过热。 2.经验教训:一定一定要控制好仓位,不要贪。由于仓位过重,正股大涨时,中间爆了一次仓,被动平了几手,极为可惜。 3.思考:投资赚的是什么钱?赚认知的钱太难,需要对一个东西有独到的见解,研究还要有前瞻性、深度,这个对个人投资者太难了。赚常识的钱容易,承受波动、尊重常识即可。","text":"$特朗普媒体科技集团(DJT)$ 回顾这次卖出DJT看涨期权之旅,绝对的刺激,又有经验教训可以总结了: 1.初心:当机会来临的时候,不要用针顶,而要用盆接。当一个没有基本面支撑的个股,由于特朗普交易,底部涨了5倍,一周多到期的平值期权期权费价格为股价的25%-30%,选择期权的买方还是卖方?毫无意义,卖方,期权费给了足够厚的安全边际。选择卖出看涨还是卖出看跌,卖出看涨,没有基本面的公司没有理由看涨,且当时特朗普交易已经明显过热。 2.经验教训:一定一定要控制好仓位,不要贪。由于仓位过重,正股大涨时,中间爆了一次仓,被动平了几手,极为可惜。 3.思考:投资赚的是什么钱?赚认知的钱太难,需要对一个东西有独到的见解,研究还要有前瞻性、深度,这个对个人投资者太难了。赚常识的钱容易,承受波动、尊重常识即可。","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d162fb8dd825b777efa86e84b5f19162","width":"981","height":"1637"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/368176603435288","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":6198,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"10000000000010302","authorId":"10000000000010302","name":"吾股丰登123","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b610f7fa83d7281fe00c102df34d1691","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"10000000000010302","idStr":"10000000000010302"},"content":"卖出看涨没问题,但控制好仓位很关键","text":"卖出看涨没问题,但控制好仓位很关键","html":"卖出看涨没问题,但控制好仓位很关键"}],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":366336841892072,"gmtCreate":1730479342775,"gmtModify":1730685807531,"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/OPT/DJT 20241108 50.0 CALL\">$DJT 20241108 50.0 CALL$</a> 又是通过常识即可判断的一次投资:1.一家没有基本面、亏损的公司,底部涨起来5倍,特朗普交易已经做到了极致,这时候是看多还是看空?2.一周后到期权费达到了股价的25%,是做期权的买方还是卖方?3.即使特朗普当选,有没有过度预期?是否会变成利好兑现的走势? 综上,卖出看涨期权风险不大,把行权价拉高,还有期权费保护,仓位控制住,相当于又是市场送的一次捡钱的机会——机会来了不要用针顶,而要用盆接。投资有时候赚的是认知的钱,这个太难了;有时候赚的钱承担(波动的钱),这个相对容易,但是在情绪面前(贪婪、恐惧),很多依靠常识能做出的决定,反而不敢做了。","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/OPT/DJT 20241108 50.0 CALL\">$DJT 20241108 50.0 CALL$</a> 又是通过常识即可判断的一次投资:1.一家没有基本面、亏损的公司,底部涨起来5倍,特朗普交易已经做到了极致,这时候是看多还是看空?2.一周后到期权费达到了股价的25%,是做期权的买方还是卖方?3.即使特朗普当选,有没有过度预期?是否会变成利好兑现的走势? 综上,卖出看涨期权风险不大,把行权价拉高,还有期权费保护,仓位控制住,相当于又是市场送的一次捡钱的机会——机会来了不要用针顶,而要用盆接。投资有时候赚的是认知的钱,这个太难了;有时候赚的钱承担(波动的钱),这个相对容易,但是在情绪面前(贪婪、恐惧),很多依靠常识能做出的决定,反而不敢做了。","text":"$DJT 20241108 50.0 CALL$ 又是通过常识即可判断的一次投资:1.一家没有基本面、亏损的公司,底部涨起来5倍,特朗普交易已经做到了极致,这时候是看多还是看空?2.一周后到期权费达到了股价的25%,是做期权的买方还是卖方?3.即使特朗普当选,有没有过度预期?是否会变成利好兑现的走势? 综上,卖出看涨期权风险不大,把行权价拉高,还有期权费保护,仓位控制住,相当于又是市场送的一次捡钱的机会——机会来了不要用针顶,而要用盆接。投资有时候赚的是认知的钱,这个太难了;有时候赚的钱承担(波动的钱),这个相对容易,但是在情绪面前(贪婪、恐惧),很多依靠常识能做出的决定,反而不敢做了。","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2759cfd223bbdb1f59a668db63614284","width":"981","height":"1637"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/366336841892072","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":4201,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3479274751437415","authorId":"3479274751437415","name":"星空下的暗恋","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a24bcc27dc29a6d8ea2018519aa88251","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"3479274751437415","idStr":"3479274751437415"},"content":"底部涨起来五倍的公司,确实需要从常识和基本面出发进行判断","text":"底部涨起来五倍的公司,确实需要从常识和基本面出发进行判断","html":"底部涨起来五倍的公司,确实需要从常识和基本面出发进行判断"}],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":369875007730064,"gmtCreate":1731319217580,"gmtModify":1731320811687,"author":{"id":"4188000553069702","authorId":"4188000553069702","name":"飞飞618","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53765af928600e917b62ccf7c5802c50","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4188000553069702","idStr":"4188000553069702"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"一些思考:通过sell put的方式做多标普500波动率以对冲美股持仓的风险。 标普500vix已经回落到15以下,一般来说,vix大部分时间在15-25之间波动,并且呈现出急涨慢跌的特点。通过sell put的方式,一方面获取权利金的保护,即使在vix缓慢回落的过程中能弥补部分损失;另一方面,可以把行权价设的略微高一些,出现脉冲式上涨时,可以收货更多的权利金。总体上,低于15的vix,是值得密切关注的。","listText":"一些思考:通过sell put的方式做多标普500波动率以对冲美股持仓的风险。 标普500vix已经回落到15以下,一般来说,vix大部分时间在15-25之间波动,并且呈现出急涨慢跌的特点。通过sell put的方式,一方面获取权利金的保护,即使在vix缓慢回落的过程中能弥补部分损失;另一方面,可以把行权价设的略微高一些,出现脉冲式上涨时,可以收货更多的权利金。总体上,低于15的vix,是值得密切关注的。","text":"一些思考:通过sell put的方式做多标普500波动率以对冲美股持仓的风险。 标普500vix已经回落到15以下,一般来说,vix大部分时间在15-25之间波动,并且呈现出急涨慢跌的特点。通过sell 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2.市场风格:回归到中期增量资金的角度,etf和险资是为数不多的增量资金(短期a股场子热,散户和公募基金流入,但趋势存疑),etf会偏大票风格,险资偏红利风格。考虑到政策持续出台,成交量放大,主题概念题材也会轮番表现,但把握难度太大。 持仓方向:有基本面支撑、景气度稳定的大公司,偏红利风格的公司。 3.思考做空(对冲)的逻辑:找估值明显偏贵,短期市场关注度、成交量非常活跃的公司。一方面,估值长期向下提供了做空的确定性;另一方面,题材概念的轮动,使得个股会出现阶段性脉冲上涨,期权费也会上升。因此,通过卖出看涨期权的方式,获取权利金,是比较稳妥的选择(当然多头也得有标的,不能裸空)。 每上涨一定的百分比,加仓卖出看涨期权即可。","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/OPT/SMC.HK 20241030 27.00 CALL\">$SMC.HK 20241030 27.00 CALL$</a> 一点思考: 1.当下市场环境:对于周六的会议,外资比内资更悲观。观察互联网龙头公司这两天的走势,对冲基金应该是在没有看到刺激消费政策、经济基本面企稳等之后选择减仓,港股作为离岸市场,比a股受到的冲击更大。 2.市场风格:回归到中期增量资金的角度,etf和险资是为数不多的增量资金(短期a股场子热,散户和公募基金流入,但趋势存疑),etf会偏大票风格,险资偏红利风格。考虑到政策持续出台,成交量放大,主题概念题材也会轮番表现,但把握难度太大。 持仓方向:有基本面支撑、景气度稳定的大公司,偏红利风格的公司。 3.思考做空(对冲)的逻辑:找估值明显偏贵,短期市场关注度、成交量非常活跃的公司。一方面,估值长期向下提供了做空的确定性;另一方面,题材概念的轮动,使得个股会出现阶段性脉冲上涨,期权费也会上升。因此,通过卖出看涨期权的方式,获取权利金,是比较稳妥的选择(当然多头也得有标的,不能裸空)。 每上涨一定的百分比,加仓卖出看涨期权即可。","text":"$SMC.HK 20241030 27.00 CALL$ 一点思考: 1.当下市场环境:对于周六的会议,外资比内资更悲观。观察互联网龙头公司这两天的走势,对冲基金应该是在没有看到刺激消费政策、经济基本面企稳等之后选择减仓,港股作为离岸市场,比a股受到的冲击更大。 2.市场风格:回归到中期增量资金的角度,etf和险资是为数不多的增量资金(短期a股场子热,散户和公募基金流入,但趋势存疑),etf会偏大票风格,险资偏红利风格。考虑到政策持续出台,成交量放大,主题概念题材也会轮番表现,但把握难度太大。 持仓方向:有基本面支撑、景气度稳定的大公司,偏红利风格的公司。 3.思考做空(对冲)的逻辑:找估值明显偏贵,短期市场关注度、成交量非常活跃的公司。一方面,估值长期向下提供了做空的确定性;另一方面,题材概念的轮动,使得个股会出现阶段性脉冲上涨,期权费也会上升。因此,通过卖出看涨期权的方式,获取权利金,是比较稳妥的选择(当然多头也得有标的,不能裸空)。 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