+关注
Mattsailor
暂无个人介绍
IP属地:未知
5
关注
2
粉丝
0
主题
0
勋章
主贴
热门
Mattsailor
2021-12-21
If you want to buy this stock, you need to have nerves of steel.and be very patient.
Palantir: 3 Reasons Against It And Why It's Still A Buy<blockquote>Palantir:反对它的 3 个理由以及为什么它仍然值得购买</blockquote>
Mattsailor
2021-12-11
In a way ,it is a good problems. Shows that they have plenty of orders.
Tesla stops taking Model S and Model X orders outside North America<blockquote>特斯拉停止在北美以外地区接受 Model S 和 Model X 订单</blockquote>
Mattsailor
2021-12-05
Difficult to value Grab as a profitable business. I am wary about how long before they can be profitable if at all.
抱歉,原内容已删除
Mattsailor
2021-11-30
It's going to take some time before we know how bad it will be.
Covid-19 Antibody Drugs Are Challenged by Omicron, Preliminary Testing Indicates<blockquote>初步测试表明,新冠肺炎抗体药物受到奥密克戎的挑战</blockquote>
Mattsailor
2021-11-03
If you want to buy, just be patient.
Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading<blockquote>特斯拉股价在盘前交易中下跌超过 6%</blockquote>
Mattsailor
2021-06-18
[强]
NIO Is Winning<blockquote>蔚来赢了</blockquote>
去老虎APP查看更多动态
{"i18n":{"language":"zh_CN"},"userPageInfo":{"id":"3585191808723701","uuid":"3585191808723701","gmtCreate":1622097784519,"gmtModify":1622097784519,"name":"Mattsailor","pinyin":"mattsailor","introduction":"","introductionEn":"","signature":"","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","hat":null,"hatId":null,"hatName":null,"vip":1,"status":2,"fanSize":2,"headSize":5,"tweetSize":6,"questionSize":0,"limitLevel":999,"accountStatus":4,"level":{"id":1,"name":"萌萌虎","nameTw":"萌萌虎","represent":"呱呱坠地","factor":"评论帖子3次或发布1条主帖(非转发)","iconColor":"3C9E83","bgColor":"A2F1D9"},"themeCounts":0,"badgeCounts":0,"badges":[],"moderator":false,"superModerator":false,"manageSymbols":null,"badgeLevel":null,"boolIsFan":false,"boolIsHead":false,"favoriteSize":0,"symbols":null,"coverImage":null,"realNameVerified":null,"userBadges":[{"badgeId":"e50ce593bb40487ebfb542ca54f6a561-3","templateUuid":"e50ce593bb40487ebfb542ca54f6a561","name":"偶像虎友","description":"加入老虎社区1500天","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8b40ae7da5bf081a1c84df14bf9e6367","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f160eceddd7c284a8e1136557615cfad","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/11792805c468334a9b31c39f95a41c6a","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLinkType":null,"redirectLink":null,"redirectLinkValidityFrom":null,"redirectLinkValidityTo":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2026.04.22","exceedPercentage":null,"individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1001,"isScarce":0,"effectConfig":null,"effectEnabled":0,"plateImgUrl":null,"plateColors":null,"validityTo":null,"validityToTimestamp":null,"wearingSort":0},{"badgeId":"228c86a078844d74991fff2b7ab2428d-3","templateUuid":"228c86a078844d74991fff2b7ab2428d","name":"投资合伙人虎","description":"证券账户累计交易金额达到100万美元","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fbeac6bb240db7da8b972e5183d050ba","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/436cdf80292b99f0a992e78750ac4e3a","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/506a259a7b456f037592c3b23c779599","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLinkType":null,"redirectLink":null,"redirectLinkValidityFrom":null,"redirectLinkValidityTo":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2022.08.26","exceedPercentage":"93.43%","individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1101,"isScarce":0,"effectConfig":null,"effectEnabled":0,"plateImgUrl":null,"plateColors":null,"validityTo":null,"validityToTimestamp":null,"wearingSort":0},{"badgeId":"976c19eed35f4cd78f17501c2e99ef37-1","templateUuid":"976c19eed35f4cd78f17501c2e99ef37","name":"博闻投资者","description":"累计交易超过10只正股","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e74cc24115c4fbae6154ec1b1041bf47","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d48265cbfd97c57f9048db29f22227b0","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/76c6d6898b073c77e1c537ebe9ac1c57","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLinkType":null,"redirectLink":null,"redirectLinkValidityFrom":null,"redirectLinkValidityTo":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2021.12.24","exceedPercentage":null,"individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1102,"isScarce":0,"effectConfig":null,"effectEnabled":0,"plateImgUrl":null,"plateColors":null,"validityTo":null,"validityToTimestamp":null,"wearingSort":0},{"badgeId":"35ec162348d5460f88c959321e554969-2","templateUuid":"35ec162348d5460f88c959321e554969","name":"宗师交易员","description":"证券或期货账户累计交易次数达到100次","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ad22cfbe2d05aa393b18e9226e4b0307","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/36702e6ff3ffe46acafee66cc85273ca","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d52eb88fa385cf5abe2616ed63781765","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLinkType":null,"redirectLink":null,"redirectLinkValidityFrom":null,"redirectLinkValidityTo":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2021.12.24","exceedPercentage":"80.20%","individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1100,"isScarce":0,"effectConfig":null,"effectEnabled":0,"plateImgUrl":null,"plateColors":null,"validityTo":null,"validityToTimestamp":null,"wearingSort":0},{"badgeId":"518b5610c3e8410da5cfad115e4b0f5a-1","templateUuid":"518b5610c3e8410da5cfad115e4b0f5a","name":"实盘交易者","description":"完成一笔实盘交易","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2e08a1cc2087a1de93402c2c290fa65b","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4504a6397ce1137932d56e5f4ce27166","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4b22c79415b4cd6e3d8ebc4a0fa32604","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLinkType":null,"redirectLink":null,"redirectLinkValidityFrom":null,"redirectLinkValidityTo":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2021.12.21","exceedPercentage":null,"individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1100,"isScarce":0,"effectConfig":null,"effectEnabled":0,"plateImgUrl":null,"plateColors":null,"validityTo":null,"validityToTimestamp":null,"wearingSort":0}],"userBadgeCount":5,"currentWearingBadge":null,"individualDisplayBadges":null,"crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"location":"未知","starInvestorFollowerNum":0,"starInvestorFlag":false,"starInvestorOrderShareNum":0,"subscribeStarInvestorNum":0,"ror":null,"winRationPercentage":null,"showRor":false,"investmentPhilosophy":null,"starInvestorSubscribeFlag":false},"baikeInfo":{},"tab":"post","tweets":[{"id":691029041,"gmtCreate":1640099629728,"gmtModify":1640099629728,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3585191808723701","idStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"If you want to buy this stock, you need to have nerves of steel.and be very patient.","listText":"If you want to buy this stock, you need to have nerves of steel.and be very patient.","text":"If you want to buy this stock, you need to have nerves of steel.and be very patient.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/691029041","repostId":"1117226796","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1117226796","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1640057164,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1117226796?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-12-21 11:26","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: 3 Reasons Against It And Why It's Still A Buy<blockquote>Palantir:反对它的 3 个理由以及为什么它仍然值得购买</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1117226796","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Summary\n\nPalantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good ","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>Palantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.</li> <li>PLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.</li> <li>Despite some interest rate headwinds, PLTR seems like a good investment to me, thanks to a strong moat and great growth outlook.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7230cdd890b86f9941b99b1503d04049\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1044\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>spxChrome/E+ via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>Palantir Technologies 是一只战场股票。对于多头来说,听取空头的论点是个好主意。</li><li>PLTR稀释了其股东,但这不一定是一个大问题。</li><li>尽管存在一些利率阻力,但由于强大的护城河和良好的增长前景,PLTR 对我来说似乎是一项不错的投资。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>spxChrome/E+ 来自盖蒂图片社</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Article Thesis</b></p><p><blockquote><b>文章论文</b></blockquote></p><p> Palantir Technologies (PLTR) is an embattled growth stock, and in recent weeks, bears have been winning as shares continued to decline. There are, indeed some important bear arguments, such as dilution, reliance on government contracts, and rising interest rates. I do, however, still believe that Palantir Technologies is an attractive long-term investment, due to the act that its technology could lead to massive growth for many years to come.</p><p><blockquote>Palantir Technologies (PLTR) 是一只陷入困境的成长型股票,最近几周,随着股价持续下跌,空头一直在获胜。确实有一些重要的看跌论点,例如稀释、对政府合同的依赖以及利率上升。然而,我仍然相信 Palantir Technologies 是一项有吸引力的长期投资,因为其技术可能会在未来许多年内带来巨大的增长。</blockquote></p><p> <b>3 Issues Brought Up By Bears</b></p><p><blockquote><b>空头提出的3个问题</b></blockquote></p><p> Palantir is a growth stock that brings out highly convinced bulls as well as highly convinced bears. Generally, I am in the bullish camp here, but taking a look at the bear arguments can be a good idea as well. Three of the most common arguments against Palantir are the following ones:</p><p><blockquote>Palantir 是一只成长型股票,既有高度确信的多头,也有高度确信的空头。总的来说,我在这里是看涨的阵营,但看看空头的论点也是一个好主意。反对Palantir的三个最常见的论点如下:</blockquote></p><p> <b>1. Shareholder Dilution</b></p><p><blockquote><b>1.股东摊薄</b></blockquote></p><p> Growth on a company-wide basis is important, but growth on a per-share basis is even more important. There are many examples that show that changes in a company's share count can create or destroy a lot of shareholder value. Apple (AAPL), for example, has seen its net income grow by roughly 190% over the last decade:</p><p><blockquote>全公司范围的增长很重要,但每股增长更重要。有许多例子表明,公司股票数量的变化可以创造或摧毁很多股东价值。例如,苹果 (AAPL) 的净利润在过去十年中增长了约 190%:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2b5263c8346cfbbb898f1d1ac9a5bead\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Thanks to a declining share count, its earnings per share rose by a much more attractive 350%, however -- buybacks created a lot of shareholder value. There are also examples where a rising share count destroyed a lot of shareholder value, e.g. at Citigroup (C):</p><p><blockquote>然而,由于股票数量减少,其每股收益增长了 350%,更具吸引力,但回购创造了大量股东价值。也有一些例子表明,股票数量的增加摧毁了很多股东的价值,例如花旗集团 (C):</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fc39008812f5e2d0082dedc95b025c68\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Massive share issuance during the Great Recession has resulted in a 75% earnings per share decline since 2007, even though net profits were up over the same time frame. Looking at the changes in a company's share count thus makes sense, as those changes can have a large impact in the long run. At Palantir, we see that the share count has been rising considerably since the company went public. During the most recent quarter, Palantir's share count looked like this:</p><p><blockquote>大衰退期间的大规模股票发行导致自 2007 年以来每股收益下降了 75%,尽管同期净利润有所增长。因此,查看公司股票数量的变化是有意义的,因为这些变化从长远来看会产生很大的影响。在 Palantir,我们看到自公司上市以来,股票数量一直在大幅增加。在最近一个季度,Palantir 的股票数量如下:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/917ca4d7a390ced61d7c92d528f84fc1\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"539\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Palantir Press Release</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:Palantir 新闻稿</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Compared to the second quarter, Palantir's average share count was 1.895 billion, which makes for a 3.5% quarterly increase, which pencils out to an annual growth rate in the mid-teens. That is, of course, not negligible at all, and bears to have an argument when they state that shareholders get diluted at a meaningful pace. On the other hand, Palantir's business growth rate is way higher than 3% per quarter, as the company has guided for ~40% revenue growth this year, and since Palantir should also deliver outsized business growth in the coming years. Even if Palantir's share count were to climb by 10%-15% a year going forward, revenue per share would still climb by 25%+ a year thanks to the fact that PLTR is growing rapidly. I also believe that dilution will, over the years, decline. Not only has this been the case at many other growth companies, e.g. Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG), or Meta (FB), but it is also logical from an option rewards perspective. Option rewards are especially generous when a company is not yet publicly traded and when its future is still more uncertain, but as a company matures, employees get more comfortable as risks for the company decline, and they do not demand large option packages any longer. Last but not least, Palantir also generates strong free cash flows that should allow the company to do share buybacks in the future, which should help improve the dilution rate as well.</p><p><blockquote>与第二季度相比,Palantir 的平均股数为 18.95 亿股,季度增长 3.5%,年增长率约为十几岁左右。当然,这一点根本不容忽视,当他们声称股东正在以有意义的速度被稀释时,值得争论。另一方面,Palantir 的业务增长率远高于每季度 3%,因为该公司预计今年的收入增长约为 40%,而且 Palantir 在未来几年也应该实现巨大的业务增长。即使Palantir的股票数量未来每年增长10%-15%,由于PLTR的快速增长,每股收入仍将每年增长25%以上。我还相信,随着时间的推移,稀释程度将会下降。不仅亚马逊(AMZN)、Alphabet(GOOG)或Meta(FB)等许多其他成长型公司都是如此,而且从期权奖励的角度来看,这也是合乎逻辑的。当一家公司尚未公开交易且其未来仍然更加不确定时,期权奖励尤其丰厚,但随着公司的成熟,随着公司风险的降低,员工会更加放心,他们不再需要大量的期权包。最后但并非最不重要的一点是,Palantir 还产生了强劲的自由现金流,这将使公司能够在未来进行股票回购,这也将有助于提高稀释率。</blockquote></p><p> <b>2. Reliance on government contracts</b></p><p><blockquote><b>2. 依赖政府合同</b></blockquote></p><p></p><p> In a recent bearish article, fellow Seeking Alpha contributor On The Pulse argued that Palantir was overvalued and that its reliance on government contracts was an issue. Palantir Technologies is, indeed, reliant on government contracts to a large degree today, but I do not believe that this is a major issue. First, Palantir has diversified away from government contracts in the recent past, thanks to massive growth in its commercial business:</p><p><blockquote>在最近一篇悲观的文章中,Seeking Alpha 撰稿人 On The Pulse 认为 Palantir 被高估了,其对政府合同的依赖是一个问题。事实上,Palantir Technologies 如今在很大程度上依赖政府合同,但我不认为这是一个主要问题。首先,由于其商业业务的大规模增长,Palantir 最近已经摆脱了政府合同的多元化:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/de23409915ee3811691b986a42ece899\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"308\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Palantir Technologies presentation</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:Palantir 技术演示文稿</span></p></blockquote></p><p> In fact, Palantir's commercial business has been growing much faster than its government business in the recent past, which shows that commercial customers from all kinds of industries apparently see a lot of value in Palantir's technology -- otherwise, they wouldn't be buying at a rapid pace. With</p><p><blockquote>事实上,Palantir 的商业业务近年来的增长速度远远快于其政府业务,这表明来自各行各业的商业客户显然都看到了 Palantir 技术的巨大价值——否则,他们就不会快速购买。和</blockquote></p><p> With the commercial business growth rate outpacing the government business growth rate, Palantir will, over the years, become a company that is less and less dependent on government contracts, and that will ultimately turn into a B2B-focused software/technology player. Even if Palantir were to remain a government-focused company forever, which seems unlikely based on the current growth rates of the individual business units, that would not necessarily be an issue. Working for the government means that there is very little counterparty risk and that existing relations can easily be used to get future contracts. Last but not least, with government budgets rising relatively steadily, good government connections allow for considerable growth opportunities -- especially in the defense tech/security tech space Palantir is active in, as there is a huge need for further investments in this space.</p><p><blockquote>随着商业业务增长率超过政府业务增长率,多年来,Palantir将成为一家越来越少依赖政府合同的公司,并最终转变为一家专注于B2B的软件/技术公司。即使 Palantir 永远是一家以政府为中心的公司(根据各个业务部门目前的增长率,这似乎不太可能),但这不一定是一个问题。为政府工作意味着交易对手风险很小,现有的关系可以很容易地用来获得未来的合同。最后但并非最不重要的一点是,随着政府预算相对稳步增长,良好的政府关系带来了相当大的增长机会——特别是在Palantir活跃的国防技术/安全技术领域,因为该领域有巨大的进一步投资需求。</blockquote></p><p> The claim that a government focus leads to lacking scalability is also false, I believe. Per Palantir's most recent quarterly report (linked above), its operating expenses rose by $9 million between Q3 2020 and Q3 2021 -- whereas revenues rose by $103 million in the same time frame. This backs out changes in share-based compensation. If one were to include those SBC expenses, Palantir's expenses actually<i>declined</i>year-over-year while the company managed to grow its revenue by close to 40%. The claim that Palantir will not generate any scale advantages over the years thus seems to be unfounded, I believe. Instead, the data suggest that Palantir will be able to grow its margins considerably -- the company was able to grow its adjusted gross profit by a massive $90 million while growing its adjusted operating expenses by just $9 million -- making for excellent operating leverage.</p><p><blockquote>我认为,政府关注导致缺乏可扩展性的说法也是错误的。根据 Palantir 最新的季度报告(上文链接),其运营费用在 2020 年第三季度至 2021 年第三季度期间增加了 900 万美元,而同期收入增加了 1.03 亿美元。这支持了基于股份的薪酬的变化。如果包括这些 SBC 费用,Palantir 的费用实际上<i>拒绝</i>同比增长,而该公司的收入增长了近 40%。因此,我认为,Palantir 多年来不会产生任何规模优势的说法似乎是没有根据的。相反,数据表明 Palantir 将能够大幅提高利润率——该公司调整后毛利润大幅增长 9000 万美元,而调整后运营费用仅增长 900 万美元——从而实现了出色的运营杠杆。</blockquote></p><p> <b>3. Exposure to rising rates</b></p><p><blockquote><b>3. 面临利率上升的风险</b></blockquote></p><p> Massive inflation will force the Fed to raise rates in 2022 and beyond, and that could be an issue for growth stocks. Companies that are not profitable today, or that have the vast majority of their profits in the distant future, are more exposed to a rising discount rate compared to companies that have low or no growth and that generate a large amount of all future profits in the near term. This could result in outperformance of value stocks versus growth stocks in the coming years, I believe. Palantir, which is not profitable yet, naturally belongs in the \"growth\" bucket that could see an above-average impact from rising interest rates. There is no real counter-argument here, I believe -- it is indeed true that the impact of rising rates on Palantir, all else equal, will be larger compared to a value stock like AbbVie (ABBV), for example.</p><p><blockquote>大规模通胀将迫使美联储在 2022 年及以后加息,这可能是成长型股票的一个问题。与增长缓慢或没有增长但在短期内产生大量未来利润的公司相比,今天不盈利或绝大多数利润的公司更容易受到贴现率上升的影响。我相信,这可能会导致未来几年价值股的表现优于成长型股。Palantir 尚未盈利,自然属于“增长”类别,利率上升可能会产生高于平均水平的影响。我相信,这里没有真正的反驳论点——在其他条件相同的情况下,与艾伯维 (ABBV) 等价值股相比,利率上升对 Palantir 的影响确实会更大。</blockquote></p><p> This being an incremental negative for Palantir doesn't mean that shares have to be avoided under any circumstances, however. Indeed, even despite some potential headwinds from rising rates, Palantir could still be an attractive investment if other arguments have a larger weight -- I believe this to be true, as I see PLTR's massive growth potential and huge moat outweighing some near-term headwinds from rising rates.</p><p><blockquote>然而,这对 Palantir 来说是一个渐进的负面影响,并不意味着在任何情况下都必须避免购买股票。事实上,尽管利率上升可能带来一些潜在的不利因素,但如果其他论点具有更大的分量,Palantir 仍然可能是一项有吸引力的投资——我相信这是真的,因为我看到 PLTR 的巨大增长潜力和巨大护城河超过了利率上升带来的一些近期不利因素。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Why Palantir Is Still Attractive</b></p><p><blockquote><b>为什么 Palantir 仍然有吸引力</b></blockquote></p><p> Bears bring up a range of arguments against Palantir, and as shown above, those can have merit. I believe that they might be overblown in some cases, but taking a look at the bear's arguments doesn't hurt -- in fact, it seems like a good idea to look at both sides in order to make a more informed decision. Dilution is indeed an issue, although I do not believe that this will be too much of a headwind, since PLTR's business growth easily outpaces dilution and since dilution, overall, should slow down over the years. Government reliance will wane over the years due to an above-average commercial business growth rate, and in general, doing business with the government is not a bad thing anyway. The claim that PLTR lacks scalability seems to be false, from what I see in PLTR's data.</p><p><blockquote>空头提出了一系列反对 Palantir 的论点,如上所述,这些论点可能有道理。我相信它们在某些情况下可能被夸大了,但看看熊的论点不会有什么坏处——事实上,为了做出更明智的决定,看看双方似乎是个好主意。稀释确实是一个问题,尽管我不认为这会是一个太大的阻力,因为 PLTR 的业务增长很容易超过稀释,而且总体而言,稀释应该会在未来几年放缓。由于高于平均水平的商业业务增长率,对政府的依赖将随着时间的推移而减弱,总的来说,与政府做生意无论如何都不是一件坏事。从我在PLTR的数据中看到的情况来看,PLTR缺乏可扩展性的说法似乎是错误的。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> Palantir is, despite these arguments, attractive, I believe: The company is growing rapidly, has decades-long growth potential in both its government business as well as on the commercial side, and Palantir seems to have a very wide moat. This combination could turn Palantir into one of the largest and most important companies eventually -- although investors shouldn't expect this to happen in the very near term. Instead, I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will grow at a considerable rate throughout the 2020s and beyond, as our world becomes ever more data-hungry -- both governments, as well as enterprises, will try to get the most value out of all of this data, and Palantir, with its tailored solutions, will be there to offer that value to its customers. With new tools such as the recently-showcased Foundry for crypto, Palantir is at the forefront of all kinds of emerging technologies. Thanks to the fact that Palantir has access to top talent -- the result of SBC and of an excellent working environment-- I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will be able to be highly competitive in all kinds of future markets in the Big Data/AI space that may not even exist yet.</p><p><blockquote>尽管存在这些争论,我相信 Palantir 仍然很有吸引力:该公司发展迅速,在政府业务和商业方面都具有数十年的增长潜力,而且 Palantir 似乎拥有非常宽阔的护城河。这种合并最终可能会使 Palantir 成为最大、最重要的公司之一——尽管投资者不应指望这种情况在短期内发生。相反,我相信,随着我们的世界变得越来越渴望数据,Palantir 很有可能在 2020 年代及以后以相当大的速度增长——政府和企业都将试图从所有这些数据中获得最大价值,而 Palantir 凭借其量身定制的解决方案将为客户提供这种价值。凭借最近展示的 Foundry for crypto 等新工具,Palantir 处于各种新兴技术的前沿。由于 Palantir 可以接触到顶尖人才——这是 SBC 和出色工作环境的结果——我相信 Palantir 很有可能能够在大数据/人工智能领域的各种未来市场中具有高度竞争力,而这些市场甚至可能还不存在。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Takeaway</b></p><p><blockquote><b>外卖</b></blockquote></p><p> In general, I am not much of a growth investor -- instead, I primarily focus on attractively priced stocks with strong cash flows, oftentimes those that pay dividends. Palantir, however, is somewhat of an outlier in my portfolio -- it's a growth stock, it is not really profitable yet, and most of its potential is years away. Due to the highly attractive combination of a massive market opportunity, excellent talent, and a wide moat, Palantir still seems like an attractive long-term investment to me. This isn't a stock that will make investors rich quickly, but I believe that there is a very good chance that Palantir will turn into a very dominant, important company over the next 10+ years. At 19x next year's revenue, PLTR is not cheap, but when we expect that the company will grow at a strong rate for many years, that also doesn't seem outlandish to me at all. It makes sense to listen to the bears' arguments, but I believe that the pros outweigh the cons here.</p><p><blockquote>总的来说,我不是一个成长型投资者——相反,我主要关注价格有吸引力、现金流强劲的股票,通常是那些支付股息的股票。然而,Palantir 在我的投资组合中有些异类——它是一只成长型股票,尚未真正盈利,而且其大部分潜力还需要数年时间。由于巨大的市场机会、优秀的人才和宽阔的护城河的极具吸引力的结合,Palantir 对我来说仍然是一项有吸引力的长期投资。这不是一只能让投资者快速致富的股票,但我相信 Palantir 很有可能在未来 10 多年内成为一家非常占主导地位的重要公司。明年收入的 19 倍,PLTR 并不便宜,但当我们预计该公司将在未来许多年内以强劲的速度增长时,这对我来说也一点也不奇怪。听听空头的论点是有道理的,但我相信这里利大于弊。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: 3 Reasons Against It And Why It's Still A Buy<blockquote>Palantir:反对它的 3 个理由以及为什么它仍然值得购买</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: 3 Reasons Against It And Why It's Still A Buy<blockquote>Palantir:反对它的 3 个理由以及为什么它仍然值得购买</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">Seeking Alpha</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-12-21 11:26</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>Palantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.</li> <li>PLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.</li> <li>Despite some interest rate headwinds, PLTR seems like a good investment to me, thanks to a strong moat and great growth outlook.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7230cdd890b86f9941b99b1503d04049\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1044\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>spxChrome/E+ via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>Palantir Technologies 是一只战场股票。对于多头来说,听取空头的论点是个好主意。</li><li>PLTR稀释了其股东,但这不一定是一个大问题。</li><li>尽管存在一些利率阻力,但由于强大的护城河和良好的增长前景,PLTR 对我来说似乎是一项不错的投资。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>spxChrome/E+ 来自盖蒂图片社</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Article Thesis</b></p><p><blockquote><b>文章论文</b></blockquote></p><p> Palantir Technologies (PLTR) is an embattled growth stock, and in recent weeks, bears have been winning as shares continued to decline. There are, indeed some important bear arguments, such as dilution, reliance on government contracts, and rising interest rates. I do, however, still believe that Palantir Technologies is an attractive long-term investment, due to the act that its technology could lead to massive growth for many years to come.</p><p><blockquote>Palantir Technologies (PLTR) 是一只陷入困境的成长型股票,最近几周,随着股价持续下跌,空头一直在获胜。确实有一些重要的看跌论点,例如稀释、对政府合同的依赖以及利率上升。然而,我仍然相信 Palantir Technologies 是一项有吸引力的长期投资,因为其技术可能会在未来许多年内带来巨大的增长。</blockquote></p><p> <b>3 Issues Brought Up By Bears</b></p><p><blockquote><b>空头提出的3个问题</b></blockquote></p><p> Palantir is a growth stock that brings out highly convinced bulls as well as highly convinced bears. Generally, I am in the bullish camp here, but taking a look at the bear arguments can be a good idea as well. Three of the most common arguments against Palantir are the following ones:</p><p><blockquote>Palantir 是一只成长型股票,既有高度确信的多头,也有高度确信的空头。总的来说,我在这里是看涨的阵营,但看看空头的论点也是一个好主意。反对Palantir的三个最常见的论点如下:</blockquote></p><p> <b>1. Shareholder Dilution</b></p><p><blockquote><b>1.股东摊薄</b></blockquote></p><p> Growth on a company-wide basis is important, but growth on a per-share basis is even more important. There are many examples that show that changes in a company's share count can create or destroy a lot of shareholder value. Apple (AAPL), for example, has seen its net income grow by roughly 190% over the last decade:</p><p><blockquote>全公司范围的增长很重要,但每股增长更重要。有许多例子表明,公司股票数量的变化可以创造或摧毁很多股东价值。例如,苹果 (AAPL) 的净利润在过去十年中增长了约 190%:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2b5263c8346cfbbb898f1d1ac9a5bead\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Thanks to a declining share count, its earnings per share rose by a much more attractive 350%, however -- buybacks created a lot of shareholder value. There are also examples where a rising share count destroyed a lot of shareholder value, e.g. at Citigroup (C):</p><p><blockquote>然而,由于股票数量减少,其每股收益增长了 350%,更具吸引力,但回购创造了大量股东价值。也有一些例子表明,股票数量的增加摧毁了很多股东的价值,例如花旗集团 (C):</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fc39008812f5e2d0082dedc95b025c68\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Massive share issuance during the Great Recession has resulted in a 75% earnings per share decline since 2007, even though net profits were up over the same time frame. Looking at the changes in a company's share count thus makes sense, as those changes can have a large impact in the long run. At Palantir, we see that the share count has been rising considerably since the company went public. During the most recent quarter, Palantir's share count looked like this:</p><p><blockquote>大衰退期间的大规模股票发行导致自 2007 年以来每股收益下降了 75%,尽管同期净利润有所增长。因此,查看公司股票数量的变化是有意义的,因为这些变化从长远来看会产生很大的影响。在 Palantir,我们看到自公司上市以来,股票数量一直在大幅增加。在最近一个季度,Palantir 的股票数量如下:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/917ca4d7a390ced61d7c92d528f84fc1\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"539\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Palantir Press Release</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:Palantir 新闻稿</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Compared to the second quarter, Palantir's average share count was 1.895 billion, which makes for a 3.5% quarterly increase, which pencils out to an annual growth rate in the mid-teens. That is, of course, not negligible at all, and bears to have an argument when they state that shareholders get diluted at a meaningful pace. On the other hand, Palantir's business growth rate is way higher than 3% per quarter, as the company has guided for ~40% revenue growth this year, and since Palantir should also deliver outsized business growth in the coming years. Even if Palantir's share count were to climb by 10%-15% a year going forward, revenue per share would still climb by 25%+ a year thanks to the fact that PLTR is growing rapidly. I also believe that dilution will, over the years, decline. Not only has this been the case at many other growth companies, e.g. Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG), or Meta (FB), but it is also logical from an option rewards perspective. Option rewards are especially generous when a company is not yet publicly traded and when its future is still more uncertain, but as a company matures, employees get more comfortable as risks for the company decline, and they do not demand large option packages any longer. Last but not least, Palantir also generates strong free cash flows that should allow the company to do share buybacks in the future, which should help improve the dilution rate as well.</p><p><blockquote>与第二季度相比,Palantir 的平均股数为 18.95 亿股,季度增长 3.5%,年增长率约为十几岁左右。当然,这一点根本不容忽视,当他们声称股东正在以有意义的速度被稀释时,值得争论。另一方面,Palantir 的业务增长率远高于每季度 3%,因为该公司预计今年的收入增长约为 40%,而且 Palantir 在未来几年也应该实现巨大的业务增长。即使Palantir的股票数量未来每年增长10%-15%,由于PLTR的快速增长,每股收入仍将每年增长25%以上。我还相信,随着时间的推移,稀释程度将会下降。不仅亚马逊(AMZN)、Alphabet(GOOG)或Meta(FB)等许多其他成长型公司都是如此,而且从期权奖励的角度来看,这也是合乎逻辑的。当一家公司尚未公开交易且其未来仍然更加不确定时,期权奖励尤其丰厚,但随着公司的成熟,随着公司风险的降低,员工会更加放心,他们不再需要大量的期权包。最后但并非最不重要的一点是,Palantir 还产生了强劲的自由现金流,这将使公司能够在未来进行股票回购,这也将有助于提高稀释率。</blockquote></p><p> <b>2. Reliance on government contracts</b></p><p><blockquote><b>2. 依赖政府合同</b></blockquote></p><p></p><p> In a recent bearish article, fellow Seeking Alpha contributor On The Pulse argued that Palantir was overvalued and that its reliance on government contracts was an issue. Palantir Technologies is, indeed, reliant on government contracts to a large degree today, but I do not believe that this is a major issue. First, Palantir has diversified away from government contracts in the recent past, thanks to massive growth in its commercial business:</p><p><blockquote>在最近一篇悲观的文章中,Seeking Alpha 撰稿人 On The Pulse 认为 Palantir 被高估了,其对政府合同的依赖是一个问题。事实上,Palantir Technologies 如今在很大程度上依赖政府合同,但我不认为这是一个主要问题。首先,由于其商业业务的大规模增长,Palantir 最近已经摆脱了政府合同的多元化:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/de23409915ee3811691b986a42ece899\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"308\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Palantir Technologies presentation</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:Palantir 技术演示文稿</span></p></blockquote></p><p> In fact, Palantir's commercial business has been growing much faster than its government business in the recent past, which shows that commercial customers from all kinds of industries apparently see a lot of value in Palantir's technology -- otherwise, they wouldn't be buying at a rapid pace. With</p><p><blockquote>事实上,Palantir 的商业业务近年来的增长速度远远快于其政府业务,这表明来自各行各业的商业客户显然都看到了 Palantir 技术的巨大价值——否则,他们就不会快速购买。和</blockquote></p><p> With the commercial business growth rate outpacing the government business growth rate, Palantir will, over the years, become a company that is less and less dependent on government contracts, and that will ultimately turn into a B2B-focused software/technology player. Even if Palantir were to remain a government-focused company forever, which seems unlikely based on the current growth rates of the individual business units, that would not necessarily be an issue. Working for the government means that there is very little counterparty risk and that existing relations can easily be used to get future contracts. Last but not least, with government budgets rising relatively steadily, good government connections allow for considerable growth opportunities -- especially in the defense tech/security tech space Palantir is active in, as there is a huge need for further investments in this space.</p><p><blockquote>随着商业业务增长率超过政府业务增长率,多年来,Palantir将成为一家越来越少依赖政府合同的公司,并最终转变为一家专注于B2B的软件/技术公司。即使 Palantir 永远是一家以政府为中心的公司(根据各个业务部门目前的增长率,这似乎不太可能),但这不一定是一个问题。为政府工作意味着交易对手风险很小,现有的关系可以很容易地用来获得未来的合同。最后但并非最不重要的一点是,随着政府预算相对稳步增长,良好的政府关系带来了相当大的增长机会——特别是在Palantir活跃的国防技术/安全技术领域,因为该领域有巨大的进一步投资需求。</blockquote></p><p> The claim that a government focus leads to lacking scalability is also false, I believe. Per Palantir's most recent quarterly report (linked above), its operating expenses rose by $9 million between Q3 2020 and Q3 2021 -- whereas revenues rose by $103 million in the same time frame. This backs out changes in share-based compensation. If one were to include those SBC expenses, Palantir's expenses actually<i>declined</i>year-over-year while the company managed to grow its revenue by close to 40%. The claim that Palantir will not generate any scale advantages over the years thus seems to be unfounded, I believe. Instead, the data suggest that Palantir will be able to grow its margins considerably -- the company was able to grow its adjusted gross profit by a massive $90 million while growing its adjusted operating expenses by just $9 million -- making for excellent operating leverage.</p><p><blockquote>我认为,政府关注导致缺乏可扩展性的说法也是错误的。根据 Palantir 最新的季度报告(上文链接),其运营费用在 2020 年第三季度至 2021 年第三季度期间增加了 900 万美元,而同期收入增加了 1.03 亿美元。这支持了基于股份的薪酬的变化。如果包括这些 SBC 费用,Palantir 的费用实际上<i>拒绝</i>同比增长,而该公司的收入增长了近 40%。因此,我认为,Palantir 多年来不会产生任何规模优势的说法似乎是没有根据的。相反,数据表明 Palantir 将能够大幅提高利润率——该公司调整后毛利润大幅增长 9000 万美元,而调整后运营费用仅增长 900 万美元——从而实现了出色的运营杠杆。</blockquote></p><p> <b>3. Exposure to rising rates</b></p><p><blockquote><b>3. 面临利率上升的风险</b></blockquote></p><p> Massive inflation will force the Fed to raise rates in 2022 and beyond, and that could be an issue for growth stocks. Companies that are not profitable today, or that have the vast majority of their profits in the distant future, are more exposed to a rising discount rate compared to companies that have low or no growth and that generate a large amount of all future profits in the near term. This could result in outperformance of value stocks versus growth stocks in the coming years, I believe. Palantir, which is not profitable yet, naturally belongs in the \"growth\" bucket that could see an above-average impact from rising interest rates. There is no real counter-argument here, I believe -- it is indeed true that the impact of rising rates on Palantir, all else equal, will be larger compared to a value stock like AbbVie (ABBV), for example.</p><p><blockquote>大规模通胀将迫使美联储在 2022 年及以后加息,这可能是成长型股票的一个问题。与增长缓慢或没有增长但在短期内产生大量未来利润的公司相比,今天不盈利或绝大多数利润的公司更容易受到贴现率上升的影响。我相信,这可能会导致未来几年价值股的表现优于成长型股。Palantir 尚未盈利,自然属于“增长”类别,利率上升可能会产生高于平均水平的影响。我相信,这里没有真正的反驳论点——在其他条件相同的情况下,与艾伯维 (ABBV) 等价值股相比,利率上升对 Palantir 的影响确实会更大。</blockquote></p><p> This being an incremental negative for Palantir doesn't mean that shares have to be avoided under any circumstances, however. Indeed, even despite some potential headwinds from rising rates, Palantir could still be an attractive investment if other arguments have a larger weight -- I believe this to be true, as I see PLTR's massive growth potential and huge moat outweighing some near-term headwinds from rising rates.</p><p><blockquote>然而,这对 Palantir 来说是一个渐进的负面影响,并不意味着在任何情况下都必须避免购买股票。事实上,尽管利率上升可能带来一些潜在的不利因素,但如果其他论点具有更大的分量,Palantir 仍然可能是一项有吸引力的投资——我相信这是真的,因为我看到 PLTR 的巨大增长潜力和巨大护城河超过了利率上升带来的一些近期不利因素。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Why Palantir Is Still Attractive</b></p><p><blockquote><b>为什么 Palantir 仍然有吸引力</b></blockquote></p><p> Bears bring up a range of arguments against Palantir, and as shown above, those can have merit. I believe that they might be overblown in some cases, but taking a look at the bear's arguments doesn't hurt -- in fact, it seems like a good idea to look at both sides in order to make a more informed decision. Dilution is indeed an issue, although I do not believe that this will be too much of a headwind, since PLTR's business growth easily outpaces dilution and since dilution, overall, should slow down over the years. Government reliance will wane over the years due to an above-average commercial business growth rate, and in general, doing business with the government is not a bad thing anyway. The claim that PLTR lacks scalability seems to be false, from what I see in PLTR's data.</p><p><blockquote>空头提出了一系列反对 Palantir 的论点,如上所述,这些论点可能有道理。我相信它们在某些情况下可能被夸大了,但看看熊的论点不会有什么坏处——事实上,为了做出更明智的决定,看看双方似乎是个好主意。稀释确实是一个问题,尽管我不认为这会是一个太大的阻力,因为 PLTR 的业务增长很容易超过稀释,而且总体而言,稀释应该会在未来几年放缓。由于高于平均水平的商业业务增长率,对政府的依赖将随着时间的推移而减弱,总的来说,与政府做生意无论如何都不是一件坏事。从我在PLTR的数据中看到的情况来看,PLTR缺乏可扩展性的说法似乎是错误的。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> Palantir is, despite these arguments, attractive, I believe: The company is growing rapidly, has decades-long growth potential in both its government business as well as on the commercial side, and Palantir seems to have a very wide moat. This combination could turn Palantir into one of the largest and most important companies eventually -- although investors shouldn't expect this to happen in the very near term. Instead, I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will grow at a considerable rate throughout the 2020s and beyond, as our world becomes ever more data-hungry -- both governments, as well as enterprises, will try to get the most value out of all of this data, and Palantir, with its tailored solutions, will be there to offer that value to its customers. With new tools such as the recently-showcased Foundry for crypto, Palantir is at the forefront of all kinds of emerging technologies. Thanks to the fact that Palantir has access to top talent -- the result of SBC and of an excellent working environment-- I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will be able to be highly competitive in all kinds of future markets in the Big Data/AI space that may not even exist yet.</p><p><blockquote>尽管存在这些争论,我相信 Palantir 仍然很有吸引力:该公司发展迅速,在政府业务和商业方面都具有数十年的增长潜力,而且 Palantir 似乎拥有非常宽阔的护城河。这种合并最终可能会使 Palantir 成为最大、最重要的公司之一——尽管投资者不应指望这种情况在短期内发生。相反,我相信,随着我们的世界变得越来越渴望数据,Palantir 很有可能在 2020 年代及以后以相当大的速度增长——政府和企业都将试图从所有这些数据中获得最大价值,而 Palantir 凭借其量身定制的解决方案将为客户提供这种价值。凭借最近展示的 Foundry for crypto 等新工具,Palantir 处于各种新兴技术的前沿。由于 Palantir 可以接触到顶尖人才——这是 SBC 和出色工作环境的结果——我相信 Palantir 很有可能能够在大数据/人工智能领域的各种未来市场中具有高度竞争力,而这些市场甚至可能还不存在。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Takeaway</b></p><p><blockquote><b>外卖</b></blockquote></p><p> In general, I am not much of a growth investor -- instead, I primarily focus on attractively priced stocks with strong cash flows, oftentimes those that pay dividends. Palantir, however, is somewhat of an outlier in my portfolio -- it's a growth stock, it is not really profitable yet, and most of its potential is years away. Due to the highly attractive combination of a massive market opportunity, excellent talent, and a wide moat, Palantir still seems like an attractive long-term investment to me. This isn't a stock that will make investors rich quickly, but I believe that there is a very good chance that Palantir will turn into a very dominant, important company over the next 10+ years. At 19x next year's revenue, PLTR is not cheap, but when we expect that the company will grow at a strong rate for many years, that also doesn't seem outlandish to me at all. It makes sense to listen to the bears' arguments, but I believe that the pros outweigh the cons here.</p><p><blockquote>总的来说,我不是一个成长型投资者——相反,我主要关注价格有吸引力、现金流强劲的股票,通常是那些支付股息的股票。然而,Palantir 在我的投资组合中有些异类——它是一只成长型股票,尚未真正盈利,而且其大部分潜力还需要数年时间。由于巨大的市场机会、优秀的人才和宽阔的护城河的极具吸引力的结合,Palantir 对我来说仍然是一项有吸引力的长期投资。这不是一只能让投资者快速致富的股票,但我相信 Palantir 很有可能在未来 10 多年内成为一家非常占主导地位的重要公司。明年收入的 19 倍,PLTR 并不便宜,但当我们预计该公司将在未来许多年内以强劲的速度增长时,这对我来说也一点也不奇怪。听听空头的论点是有道理的,但我相信这里利大于弊。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4475960-palantir-3-reasons-against-it-and-why-its-still-a-buy\">Seeking Alpha</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4475960-palantir-3-reasons-against-it-and-why-its-still-a-buy","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1117226796","content_text":"Summary\n\nPalantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.\nPLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.\nDespite some interest rate headwinds, PLTR seems like a good investment to me, thanks to a strong moat and great growth outlook.\n\nspxChrome/E+ via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nPalantir Technologies (PLTR) is an embattled growth stock, and in recent weeks, bears have been winning as shares continued to decline. There are, indeed some important bear arguments, such as dilution, reliance on government contracts, and rising interest rates. I do, however, still believe that Palantir Technologies is an attractive long-term investment, due to the act that its technology could lead to massive growth for many years to come.\n3 Issues Brought Up By Bears\nPalantir is a growth stock that brings out highly convinced bulls as well as highly convinced bears. Generally, I am in the bullish camp here, but taking a look at the bear arguments can be a good idea as well. Three of the most common arguments against Palantir are the following ones:\n1. Shareholder Dilution\nGrowth on a company-wide basis is important, but growth on a per-share basis is even more important. There are many examples that show that changes in a company's share count can create or destroy a lot of shareholder value. Apple (AAPL), for example, has seen its net income grow by roughly 190% over the last decade:\nData by YCharts\nThanks to a declining share count, its earnings per share rose by a much more attractive 350%, however -- buybacks created a lot of shareholder value. There are also examples where a rising share count destroyed a lot of shareholder value, e.g. at Citigroup (C):\nData by YCharts\nMassive share issuance during the Great Recession has resulted in a 75% earnings per share decline since 2007, even though net profits were up over the same time frame. Looking at the changes in a company's share count thus makes sense, as those changes can have a large impact in the long run. At Palantir, we see that the share count has been rising considerably since the company went public. During the most recent quarter, Palantir's share count looked like this:\nSource: Palantir Press Release\nCompared to the second quarter, Palantir's average share count was 1.895 billion, which makes for a 3.5% quarterly increase, which pencils out to an annual growth rate in the mid-teens. That is, of course, not negligible at all, and bears to have an argument when they state that shareholders get diluted at a meaningful pace. On the other hand, Palantir's business growth rate is way higher than 3% per quarter, as the company has guided for ~40% revenue growth this year, and since Palantir should also deliver outsized business growth in the coming years. Even if Palantir's share count were to climb by 10%-15% a year going forward, revenue per share would still climb by 25%+ a year thanks to the fact that PLTR is growing rapidly. I also believe that dilution will, over the years, decline. Not only has this been the case at many other growth companies, e.g. Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG), or Meta (FB), but it is also logical from an option rewards perspective. Option rewards are especially generous when a company is not yet publicly traded and when its future is still more uncertain, but as a company matures, employees get more comfortable as risks for the company decline, and they do not demand large option packages any longer. Last but not least, Palantir also generates strong free cash flows that should allow the company to do share buybacks in the future, which should help improve the dilution rate as well.\n2. Reliance on government contracts\nIn a recent bearish article, fellow Seeking Alpha contributor On The Pulse argued that Palantir was overvalued and that its reliance on government contracts was an issue. Palantir Technologies is, indeed, reliant on government contracts to a large degree today, but I do not believe that this is a major issue. First, Palantir has diversified away from government contracts in the recent past, thanks to massive growth in its commercial business:\nSource: Palantir Technologies presentation\nIn fact, Palantir's commercial business has been growing much faster than its government business in the recent past, which shows that commercial customers from all kinds of industries apparently see a lot of value in Palantir's technology -- otherwise, they wouldn't be buying at a rapid pace. With\nWith the commercial business growth rate outpacing the government business growth rate, Palantir will, over the years, become a company that is less and less dependent on government contracts, and that will ultimately turn into a B2B-focused software/technology player. Even if Palantir were to remain a government-focused company forever, which seems unlikely based on the current growth rates of the individual business units, that would not necessarily be an issue. Working for the government means that there is very little counterparty risk and that existing relations can easily be used to get future contracts. Last but not least, with government budgets rising relatively steadily, good government connections allow for considerable growth opportunities -- especially in the defense tech/security tech space Palantir is active in, as there is a huge need for further investments in this space.\nThe claim that a government focus leads to lacking scalability is also false, I believe. Per Palantir's most recent quarterly report (linked above), its operating expenses rose by $9 million between Q3 2020 and Q3 2021 -- whereas revenues rose by $103 million in the same time frame. This backs out changes in share-based compensation. If one were to include those SBC expenses, Palantir's expenses actuallydeclinedyear-over-year while the company managed to grow its revenue by close to 40%. The claim that Palantir will not generate any scale advantages over the years thus seems to be unfounded, I believe. Instead, the data suggest that Palantir will be able to grow its margins considerably -- the company was able to grow its adjusted gross profit by a massive $90 million while growing its adjusted operating expenses by just $9 million -- making for excellent operating leverage.\n3. Exposure to rising rates\nMassive inflation will force the Fed to raise rates in 2022 and beyond, and that could be an issue for growth stocks. Companies that are not profitable today, or that have the vast majority of their profits in the distant future, are more exposed to a rising discount rate compared to companies that have low or no growth and that generate a large amount of all future profits in the near term. This could result in outperformance of value stocks versus growth stocks in the coming years, I believe. Palantir, which is not profitable yet, naturally belongs in the \"growth\" bucket that could see an above-average impact from rising interest rates. There is no real counter-argument here, I believe -- it is indeed true that the impact of rising rates on Palantir, all else equal, will be larger compared to a value stock like AbbVie (ABBV), for example.\nThis being an incremental negative for Palantir doesn't mean that shares have to be avoided under any circumstances, however. Indeed, even despite some potential headwinds from rising rates, Palantir could still be an attractive investment if other arguments have a larger weight -- I believe this to be true, as I see PLTR's massive growth potential and huge moat outweighing some near-term headwinds from rising rates.\nWhy Palantir Is Still Attractive\nBears bring up a range of arguments against Palantir, and as shown above, those can have merit. I believe that they might be overblown in some cases, but taking a look at the bear's arguments doesn't hurt -- in fact, it seems like a good idea to look at both sides in order to make a more informed decision. Dilution is indeed an issue, although I do not believe that this will be too much of a headwind, since PLTR's business growth easily outpaces dilution and since dilution, overall, should slow down over the years. Government reliance will wane over the years due to an above-average commercial business growth rate, and in general, doing business with the government is not a bad thing anyway. The claim that PLTR lacks scalability seems to be false, from what I see in PLTR's data.\nPalantir is, despite these arguments, attractive, I believe: The company is growing rapidly, has decades-long growth potential in both its government business as well as on the commercial side, and Palantir seems to have a very wide moat. This combination could turn Palantir into one of the largest and most important companies eventually -- although investors shouldn't expect this to happen in the very near term. Instead, I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will grow at a considerable rate throughout the 2020s and beyond, as our world becomes ever more data-hungry -- both governments, as well as enterprises, will try to get the most value out of all of this data, and Palantir, with its tailored solutions, will be there to offer that value to its customers. With new tools such as the recently-showcased Foundry for crypto, Palantir is at the forefront of all kinds of emerging technologies. Thanks to the fact that Palantir has access to top talent -- the result of SBC and of an excellent working environment-- I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will be able to be highly competitive in all kinds of future markets in the Big Data/AI space that may not even exist yet.\nTakeaway\nIn general, I am not much of a growth investor -- instead, I primarily focus on attractively priced stocks with strong cash flows, oftentimes those that pay dividends. Palantir, however, is somewhat of an outlier in my portfolio -- it's a growth stock, it is not really profitable yet, and most of its potential is years away. Due to the highly attractive combination of a massive market opportunity, excellent talent, and a wide moat, Palantir still seems like an attractive long-term investment to me. This isn't a stock that will make investors rich quickly, but I believe that there is a very good chance that Palantir will turn into a very dominant, important company over the next 10+ years. At 19x next year's revenue, PLTR is not cheap, but when we expect that the company will grow at a strong rate for many years, that also doesn't seem outlandish to me at all. It makes sense to listen to the bears' arguments, but I believe that the pros outweigh the cons here.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"PLTR":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3509,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":605202368,"gmtCreate":1639176190615,"gmtModify":1639176190722,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3585191808723701","idStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"In a way ,it is a good problems. Shows that they have plenty of orders.","listText":"In a way ,it is a good problems. Shows that they have plenty of orders.","text":"In a way ,it is a good problems. Shows that they have plenty of orders.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/605202368","repostId":"1165282830","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1165282830","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1639148461,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1165282830?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-12-10 23:01","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla stops taking Model S and Model X orders outside North America<blockquote>特斯拉停止在北美以外地区接受 Model S 和 Model X 订单</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1165282830","media":"Electrek","summary":"Tesla announced to potential buyers today that it stopped taking new Model S and Model X orders outs","content":"<p>Tesla announced to potential buyers today that it stopped taking new Model S and Model X orders outside North America.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉今天向潜在买家宣布,已停止接受北美以外地区的新 Model S 和 Model X 订单。</blockquote></p><p> It now expects deliveries in other markets to start during the second half of 2022.</p><p><blockquote>目前预计其他市场将于 2022 年下半年开始交付。</blockquote></p><p> The news comes from an email that Tesla started sending out to people who have Model S and Model X vehicles on order in Europe.</p><p><blockquote>这一消息来自特斯拉开始向在欧洲订购 Model S 和 Model X 汽车的人发送的一封电子邮件。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla writes in the email that it is not accepting any new orders (translated from German):</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉在邮件中写道,它不接受任何新订单(从德语翻译而来):</blockquote></p><p> In order to expedite the delivery of existing orders, including your Model X order, as much as possible, we are currently no longer accepting new orders for the Model S and Model X from markets outside of North America. This is in response to Tesla likely having a large backlog of Model S/X orders in Europe and other markets, where there has been no new Model S/X shipment in a year.</p><p><blockquote>为了尽可能加快现有订单(包括您的Model X订单)的交付,我们目前不再接受来自北美以外市场的Model S和Model X的新订单。这是为了回应特斯拉在欧洲和其他市场可能有大量积压的Model S/X订单,这些市场已经一年没有新的Model S/X出货量了。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla shut down Model S and Model X production in January of last year to update the vehicles.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉于去年1月停止了Model S和Model X的生产,以更新车辆。</blockquote></p><p> During that year, the automaker kept taking new orders, but production was delayed with new Model S starting to slowly come off the assembly line in June and Model X in October.</p><p><blockquote>那一年,该汽车制造商不断接受新订单,但生产被推迟,新款 Model S 于 6 月开始慢慢下线,Model X 于 10 月开始慢慢下线。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla is still catching up to the backlog in North America while new orders kept coming in from Europe and Asia.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉仍在赶上北美的积压订单,而来自欧洲和亚洲的新订单则不断涌入。</blockquote></p><p> In the email, Tesla says that it now aims to deliver the first Model S and Model X in Europe during the second half of next year:</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉在电子邮件中表示,目前的目标是在明年下半年在欧洲交付首批 Model S 和 Model X:</blockquote></p><p> Your Model X is getting closer to delivery. We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022. This means that Europe would be without Model S and Model X for a year and a half.</p><p><blockquote>您的 Model X 即将交付。我们目前预计北美以外的发货将于 2022 年下半年开始。这意味着欧洲将有一年半的时间没有 Model S 和 Model X。</blockquote></p><p> Here’s the email in full:</p><p><blockquote>以下是电子邮件全文:</blockquote></p><p> Hello [redacted], We are contacting you regarding the timing of your Model X order. As we expand production capacity, the launch dates for markets outside of North America have been postponed. We will inform you of the delivery times through your Tesla account when production begins. Your Model X is getting closer to delivery. We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022. In order to expedite the delivery of existing orders, including your Model X order, as much as possible, we are currently no longer accepting new orders for the Model S and Model X from markets outside of North America. The price of your Model X will continue to be the same as it was when you placed your order, unless your vehicle configuration has been changed. To apply your order fee to another model, or to receive a full refund, request a call to speak directly to a Tesla representative. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Kind regards, Your Tesla Team Testa </p><p><blockquote>您好【编辑】,我们正在就您的Model X订单时间与您联系。随着我们扩大产能,北美以外市场的上市日期已被推迟。生产开始时,我们将通过您的特斯拉帐户通知您交货时间。您的 Model X 即将交付。我们目前预计北美以外的发货将于 2022 年下半年开始。为了尽可能加快现有订单(包括您的Model X订单)的交付,我们目前不再接受来自北美以外市场的Model S和Model X的新订单。除非您的车辆配置发生了变化,否则您的Model X的价格将继续与您下订单时相同。要将您的订单费用应用于其他型号,或获得全额退款,请要求看涨期权直接与特斯拉代表联系。对于由此造成的任何不便,我们深表歉意。亲切的问候,您的特斯拉团队测试</blockquote></p><p></p>","source":"lsy1627037122897","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla stops taking Model S and Model X orders outside North America<blockquote>特斯拉停止在北美以外地区接受 Model S 和 Model X 订单</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla stops taking Model S and Model X orders outside North America<blockquote>特斯拉停止在北美以外地区接受 Model S 和 Model X 订单</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">Electrek</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-12-10 23:01</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Tesla announced to potential buyers today that it stopped taking new Model S and Model X orders outside North America.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉今天向潜在买家宣布,已停止接受北美以外地区的新 Model S 和 Model X 订单。</blockquote></p><p> It now expects deliveries in other markets to start during the second half of 2022.</p><p><blockquote>目前预计其他市场将于 2022 年下半年开始交付。</blockquote></p><p> The news comes from an email that Tesla started sending out to people who have Model S and Model X vehicles on order in Europe.</p><p><blockquote>这一消息来自特斯拉开始向在欧洲订购 Model S 和 Model X 汽车的人发送的一封电子邮件。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla writes in the email that it is not accepting any new orders (translated from German):</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉在邮件中写道,它不接受任何新订单(从德语翻译而来):</blockquote></p><p> In order to expedite the delivery of existing orders, including your Model X order, as much as possible, we are currently no longer accepting new orders for the Model S and Model X from markets outside of North America. This is in response to Tesla likely having a large backlog of Model S/X orders in Europe and other markets, where there has been no new Model S/X shipment in a year.</p><p><blockquote>为了尽可能加快现有订单(包括您的Model X订单)的交付,我们目前不再接受来自北美以外市场的Model S和Model X的新订单。这是为了回应特斯拉在欧洲和其他市场可能有大量积压的Model S/X订单,这些市场已经一年没有新的Model S/X出货量了。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla shut down Model S and Model X production in January of last year to update the vehicles.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉于去年1月停止了Model S和Model X的生产,以更新车辆。</blockquote></p><p> During that year, the automaker kept taking new orders, but production was delayed with new Model S starting to slowly come off the assembly line in June and Model X in October.</p><p><blockquote>那一年,该汽车制造商不断接受新订单,但生产被推迟,新款 Model S 于 6 月开始慢慢下线,Model X 于 10 月开始慢慢下线。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla is still catching up to the backlog in North America while new orders kept coming in from Europe and Asia.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉仍在赶上北美的积压订单,而来自欧洲和亚洲的新订单则不断涌入。</blockquote></p><p> In the email, Tesla says that it now aims to deliver the first Model S and Model X in Europe during the second half of next year:</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉在电子邮件中表示,目前的目标是在明年下半年在欧洲交付首批 Model S 和 Model X:</blockquote></p><p> Your Model X is getting closer to delivery. We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022. This means that Europe would be without Model S and Model X for a year and a half.</p><p><blockquote>您的 Model X 即将交付。我们目前预计北美以外的发货将于 2022 年下半年开始。这意味着欧洲将有一年半的时间没有 Model S 和 Model X。</blockquote></p><p> Here’s the email in full:</p><p><blockquote>以下是电子邮件全文:</blockquote></p><p> Hello [redacted], We are contacting you regarding the timing of your Model X order. As we expand production capacity, the launch dates for markets outside of North America have been postponed. We will inform you of the delivery times through your Tesla account when production begins. Your Model X is getting closer to delivery. We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022. In order to expedite the delivery of existing orders, including your Model X order, as much as possible, we are currently no longer accepting new orders for the Model S and Model X from markets outside of North America. The price of your Model X will continue to be the same as it was when you placed your order, unless your vehicle configuration has been changed. To apply your order fee to another model, or to receive a full refund, request a call to speak directly to a Tesla representative. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Kind regards, Your Tesla Team Testa </p><p><blockquote>您好【编辑】,我们正在就您的Model X订单时间与您联系。随着我们扩大产能,北美以外市场的上市日期已被推迟。生产开始时,我们将通过您的特斯拉帐户通知您交货时间。您的 Model X 即将交付。我们目前预计北美以外的发货将于 2022 年下半年开始。为了尽可能加快现有订单(包括您的Model X订单)的交付,我们目前不再接受来自北美以外市场的Model S和Model X的新订单。除非您的车辆配置发生了变化,否则您的Model X的价格将继续与您下订单时相同。要将您的订单费用应用于其他型号,或获得全额退款,请要求看涨期权直接与特斯拉代表联系。对于由此造成的任何不便,我们深表歉意。亲切的问候,您的特斯拉团队测试</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://electrek.co/2021/12/10/tesla-stops-taking-model-s-x-orders-outside-north-america/\">Electrek</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://electrek.co/2021/12/10/tesla-stops-taking-model-s-x-orders-outside-north-america/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1165282830","content_text":"Tesla announced to potential buyers today that it stopped taking new Model S and Model X orders outside North America.\nIt now expects deliveries in other markets to start during the second half of 2022.\nThe news comes from an email that Tesla started sending out to people who have Model S and Model X vehicles on order in Europe.\nTesla writes in the email that it is not accepting any new orders (translated from German):\n\n In order to expedite the delivery of existing orders, including your Model X order, as much as possible, we are currently no longer accepting new orders for the Model S and Model X from markets outside of North America.\n\nThis is in response to Tesla likely having a large backlog of Model S/X orders in Europe and other markets, where there has been no new Model S/X shipment in a year.\nTesla shut down Model S and Model X production in January of last year to update the vehicles.\nDuring that year, the automaker kept taking new orders, but production was delayed with new Model S starting to slowly come off the assembly line in June and Model X in October.\nTesla is still catching up to the backlog in North America while new orders kept coming in from Europe and Asia.\nIn the email, Tesla says that it now aims to deliver the first Model S and Model X in Europe during the second half of next year:\n\n Your Model X is getting closer to delivery. We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022.\n\nThis means that Europe would be without Model S and Model X for a year and a half.\nHere’s the email in full:\n\n Hello [redacted],\n\n\n We are contacting you regarding the timing of your Model X order. As we expand production capacity, the launch dates for markets outside of North America have been postponed. We will inform you of the delivery times through your Tesla account when production begins.\n\n\n Your Model X is getting closer to delivery. We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022.\n\n\n In order to expedite the delivery of existing orders, including your Model X order, as much as possible, we are currently no longer accepting new orders for the Model S and Model X from markets outside of North America.\n\n\n The price of your Model X will continue to be the same as it was when you placed your order, unless your vehicle configuration has been changed. To apply your order fee to another model, or to receive a full refund, request a call to speak directly to a Tesla representative.\n\n\n We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.\n\n\n Kind regards,\n\n\n Your Tesla Team Testa","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"TSLA":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3425,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":608636122,"gmtCreate":1638706503852,"gmtModify":1638706503852,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3585191808723701","idStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"Difficult to value Grab as a profitable business. I am wary about how long before they can be profitable if at all.","listText":"Difficult to value Grab as a profitable business. I am wary about how long before they can be profitable if at all.","text":"Difficult to value Grab as a profitable business. I am wary about how long before they can be profitable if at all.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/608636122","repostId":"2188951783","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3931,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":609693475,"gmtCreate":1638274892283,"gmtModify":1638274892283,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3585191808723701","idStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"It's going to take some time before we know how bad it will be.","listText":"It's going to take some time before we know how bad it will be.","text":"It's going to take some time before we know how bad it will be.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/609693475","repostId":"1192203085","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1192203085","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1638273550,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1192203085?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-30 19:59","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Covid-19 Antibody Drugs Are Challenged by Omicron, Preliminary Testing Indicates<blockquote>初步测试表明,新冠肺炎抗体药物受到奥密克戎的挑战</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1192203085","media":"The Wall Street Journal","summary":"Regeneron said its antibody drug cocktail was found to lose effectiveness against the new variant\nA ","content":"<p>Regeneron said its antibody drug cocktail was found to lose effectiveness against the new variant</p><p><blockquote>再生元表示,其抗体药物鸡尾酒被发现对新变种失去效力</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ed6086131617e6933fe07f3e46cd5c26\" tg-width=\"1290\" tg-height=\"859\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>A monoclonal antibody treatment site in Pembroke Pines, Fla., earlier this year.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>今年早些时候,佛罗里达州彭布罗克派恩斯的一个单克隆抗体治疗点。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Preliminary tests indicate the Covid-19 antibody drug cocktail from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. loses effectiveness against Omicron, the company said Tuesday, a sign that some products in an important class of therapies might need modifying if the new strain becomes widespread.</p><p><blockquote>再生元制药公司周二表示,初步测试表明,该公司生产的 Covid-19 抗体药物鸡尾酒对奥密克戎病毒失去了效力,这表明如果新菌株广泛传播,一类重要疗法中的一些产品可能需要修改。</blockquote></p><p> Separate testing of another authorized Covid-19 antibody drug cocktail, from Eli Lilly& Co., indicates it also isn’t as effective against Omicron, outside scientists said. Lilly said it is testing the new variant against its antibody treatment and wouldn’t speculate on what the results will be.</p><p><blockquote>外部科学家说,对礼来公司(Eli Lilly&Co.礼来公司表示,它正在对这种新变种进行抗体治疗测试,不愿猜测结果会如何。</blockquote></p><p> The findings are the early results of researchers’ race to assess the impact of the new Omicron variant on Covid-19 treatments that patients, doctors and hospitals have been relying on, as well as pills in development that have promised to keep people out of the hospital.</p><p><blockquote>这些发现是研究人员竞赛的早期结果,旨在评估新的奥密克戎变种对病人、医生和医院一直依赖的 Covid-19 治疗方法的影响,以及正在开发的有望让人们远离医院的药丸。</blockquote></p><p> Researchers say some antibody therapies are likely to be especially vulnerable to Omicron because it contains mutations to the spike protein that the Regeneron and Lilly drugs target, while other drugs should hold up well because they attack elements of the virus unchanged in the variant.</p><p><blockquote>研究人员表示,一些抗体疗法可能特别容易受到奥密克戎病毒的影响,因为它包含再生元和礼来公司药物所针对的刺突蛋白的突变,而其他药物应该能很好地保持,因为它们攻击的是病毒变异体中不变的元素。</blockquote></p><p> Monoclonal antibodies are lab-made molecules derived from survivors of Covid-19 or mice engineered to have human immune systems. When given soon after infection, the drugs attach to the surface of the coronavirus and prevent it from replicating itself in new cells.</p><p><blockquote>单克隆抗体是实验室制造的分子,来源于新冠肺炎的幸存者或被改造成具有人类免疫系统的小鼠。当在感染后不久服用时,这些药物会附着在冠状病毒表面,并阻止其在新细胞中自我复制。</blockquote></p><p> They are the only drugs authorized to treat patients, before they require hospitalization, who are at high risk of developing severe cases.</p><p><blockquote>它们是唯一被授权用于治疗需要住院治疗的患者的药物,这些患者有发生严重病例的高风险。</blockquote></p><p> The drugs differ from vaccines, which train the immune system how to defend against the virus, including with the production of antibodies. Last year, former President Donald Trump credited Regeneron’s drug with his speedy recovery from Covid-19.</p><p><blockquote>这些药物不同于疫苗,疫苗训练免疫系统如何抵御病毒,包括产生抗体。去年,前总统唐纳德-特朗普(Donald Trump)将他从 Covid-19 中快速康复归功于再生元公司的药物。</blockquote></p><p> Regeneron said it would be able to quantify the impact of the variant in coming weeks, after further testing is done.</p><p><blockquote>再生元表示,在完成进一步测试后,它将能够在未来几周内量化该变种的影响。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6e7fac5c4630025e6c5ad28d2c3efbfa\" tg-width=\"1050\" tg-height=\"700\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Antiviral pills such as Pfizer’s Paxlovid appear to be unaffected by the variant.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>辉瑞公司的 Paxlovid 等抗病毒药物似乎不受该变种的影响。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> If final testing shows that its antibody drugs are less effective against Omicron, Regeneron has developed alternative antibodies that it can push into clinical testing and that it thinks will retain effectiveness against the variant, said George Yancopoulos, the company’s president and chief scientific officer.</p><p><blockquote>Regeneron 总裁兼首席科学官 George Yancopoulos 说,如果最终测试表明其抗体药物对奥密克戎病毒的疗效较差,那么 Regeneron 已经开发出了替代抗体,可以将其推入临床试验,并认为这些抗体将保持对该变异病毒的疗效。</blockquote></p><p> One of Regeneron’s alternative antibodies is already in clinical testing, which the company began in anticipation of new variants emerging over time.</p><p><blockquote>再生元公司的一种替代抗体已经在进行临床试验,该公司之所以开始临床试验,是因为预计随着时间的推移会出现新的变种。</blockquote></p><p> The Omicron variant was identified last week by scientists in South Africa, prompting drug researchers to scramble to see if the relatively small medicine chest of Covid-19 treatments would still work against the new strain if it ends up spreading widely.</p><p><blockquote>南非科学家上周发现了奥密克戎变种,这促使药物研究人员争先恐后地看看,如果这种新毒株最终广泛传播,相对较小的新冠肺炎治疗药物箱是否仍然可以对抗它。</blockquote></p><p> “What we have to admit is, in the course of the past six days, our urgency has increased,” Dr. Yancopoulos said in an interview. “What started out as a backup plan has now been made a lot more urgent.”</p><p><blockquote>“扬科普洛斯博士在接受采访时说:”我们不得不承认,在过去的六天里,我们的紧迫感增加了。“最初的后备计划现在变得更加紧迫”。</blockquote></p><p> Scientists at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle found that individual mutations from Omicron reduced or eliminated the ability of Regeneron’s and Lilly’s drugs to attach to the virus, said Allie Greaney, a Ph.D. candidate at the center and the University of Washington in Seattle.</p><p><blockquote>西雅图弗雷德-哈钦森癌症研究中心(Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center)和西雅图华盛顿大学(University of Washington in Seattle)的博士生艾莉-格里尼(Allie Greaney)说,该中心的科学家发现,奥密克戎病毒的个别突变会降低或消除再生元公司和礼来公司的药物附着在病毒上的能力。</blockquote></p><p> More comprehensive tests of the drugs against the entire variant are needed to fully understand the impact, she said. “I’m not certain what the exact magnitude of effect would be, but probably less effective,” said Ms. Greaney.</p><p><blockquote>她说,需要对这些药物针对整个变种进行更全面的测试,以充分了解其影响。“格里尼女士说:”我不确定这种影响的确切程度,但效果可能会较差。</blockquote></p><p> Lilly is in the process of testing the new variant against its drug, a combination of two antibodies called bamlanivimab and etesevimab,said Nicole Kallewaard, a Lilly virologist and research adviser.</p><p><blockquote>礼来公司病毒学家兼研究顾问妮可·卡勒瓦德 (Nicole Kallewaard) 表示,礼来公司正在测试针对其药物的新变种,该药物是两种抗体的组合,称为 bamlanivimab 和 etesevimab。</blockquote></p><p> She declined to comment on the results showing reduced effectiveness against individual Omicron mutations, because the results may differ when all of the mutations are combined.</p><p><blockquote>她拒绝对显示针对单个奥密克戎突变的有效性降低的结果发表评论,因为当所有突变组合时,结果可能会有所不同。</blockquote></p><p> “I think that we need to wait for confirmation of the whole virus,” said Dr. Kallewaard. “Hopefully, the data will come in the next few weeks.”</p><p><blockquote>“卡勒瓦德博士说:”我认为我们需要等待整个病毒的确认。“希望数据能在未来几周内公布”。</blockquote></p><p> A rise in the prevalence of Omicron could present an opportunity for competitors who say their drugs don’t appear in preliminary testing to be affected by the variant, including Vir Biotechnology Inc. and GlaxoSmithKline PLC, whose drug sotrovimab was authorized for emergency use earlier this year.</p><p><blockquote>奥密克戎病患病率的上升可能会为竞争对手提供一个机会,他们说自己的药物在初步测试中似乎没有受到这种变异的影响,其中包括 Vir Biotechnology Inc. 和葛兰素史克公司,后者的药物 sotrovimab 已于今年早些时候获准紧急使用。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> Fred Hutchinson researchers also said their initial testing indicated the Vir-GSK antibody drug retained its effectiveness.</p><p><blockquote>Fred Hutchinson研究人员还表示,他们的初步测试表明,Vir-GSK抗体药物保留了其有效性。</blockquote></p><p> Adagio Therapeutics Inc.,a biotech with a Covid-19 antibody drug in clinical trials, said its antibody also appears to be unaffected by the new variant.</p><p><blockquote>Adagio Therapeutics Inc. 是一家生物技术公司,其 Covid-19 抗体药物正在进行临床试验,该公司表示,其抗体似乎也不受新变种的影响。</blockquote></p><p> Vir, Glaxo and Adagio said they are conducting further tests to confirm that their drugs aren’t affected by Omicron.</p><p><blockquote>Vir、Glaxo 和 Adagio 表示,他们正在进行进一步的测试,以确认他们的药物不受奥密克戎病毒的影响。</blockquote></p><p> Omicron poses a threat to lab-made antibody drugs as well as antibodies generated by vaccines, because the new variant has mutations on the spike protein part of the virus where antibodies are known to frequently attach themselves, scientists say.</p><p><blockquote>科学家说,奥密克戎病毒对实验室制造的抗体药物以及疫苗产生的抗体构成威胁,因为这种新变种在病毒的刺突蛋白部分发生突变,已知抗体经常附着在刺突蛋白部分。</blockquote></p><p> Vir and Adagio officials said the companies designed their antibodies with the aim of targeting spots on the virus that are common across different coronaviruses that remained stable even after numerous mutations over many years.</p><p><blockquote>Vir 和 Adagio 的官员表示,这两家公司设计抗体的目的是针对不同冠状病毒中常见的病毒斑点,这些斑点即使经过多年的多次突变也保持稳定。</blockquote></p><p> “They bind to a region of the virus that through decades of evolution has not changed a lot,” Adagio Chief Executive Tillman Gerngross said in an interview. “Those conserved areas make the virus much more vulnerable” to antibodies.</p><p><blockquote>“Adagio 首席执行官蒂尔曼-格恩格罗斯(Tillman Gerngross)在接受采访时说:”它们与病毒中的一个区域结合在一起,这个区域经过几十年的演变并没有太大变化。“这些保守区域使病毒更容易受到抗体的攻击”。</blockquote></p><p> It will take at least two weeks to create a version of the full Omicron virus variant and test antibody drugs against it, company officials said. Still, scientists say they are concerned by what they know already about the variant’s ability to evade antibodies produced by vaccines, prior infection or from drug treatment.</p><p><blockquote>公司官员表示,创建完整的奥密克戎病毒变种版本并测试针对它的抗体药物至少需要两周时间。尽管如此,科学家们表示,他们对这种变异体逃避疫苗、既往感染或药物治疗产生的抗体的能力感到担忧。</blockquote></p><p> “Omicron hasn’t become the next Delta,” Vir Chief Scientific Officer Skip Virgin said in an interview. But “we think the extent of the mutations, the number of them, means that the world needs to take Omicron very seriously.”</p><p><blockquote>“Vir 首席科学官 Skip Virgin 在接受采访时说:”奥密克戎还没有成为下一个三角洲。但 “我们认为,突变的程度和数量意味着世界需要非常认真地对待奥密克戎”。</blockquote></p><p> Antiviral drugs, including pills from Merck& Co. and partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP and from Pfizer Inc. that are being evaluated for authorization,appear to be unaffected by the variant because they target a different site on the virus, said Michel Nussenzweig, an immunologist at Rockefeller University.</p><p><blockquote>米歇尔·努森茨威格 (Michel Nussenzweig) 表示,正在评估授权的抗病毒药物,包括默克公司 (Merck&Co.) 及其合作伙伴 Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP 和辉瑞公司 (Pfizer Inc.) 的药丸,似乎不受该变种的影响,因为它们针对的是病毒上的不同位点。洛克菲勒大学免疫学家。</blockquote></p><p> Doctors and patients have been looking forward to authorization of the pills, which in clinical trials have reduced the risk of hospitalization if taken early enough.</p><p><blockquote>医生和患者一直期待着这种药丸的授权,在临床试验中,如果服用得足够早,这种药丸可以降低住院的风险。</blockquote></p><p> “The targets of the pills appear to be under less pressure and may be OK, but this too needs to be tested,” said Dr. Nussenzweig.</p><p><blockquote>“Nussenzweig 博士说:”药丸的目标似乎压力较小,可能没问题,但这也需要进行测试。</blockquote></p><p> Pfizer and Merck said they expect their drugs to be effective against Omicron.</p><p><blockquote>辉瑞和默克表示,他们预计自己的药物能够有效对抗奥密克戎病。</blockquote></p><p> Gilead SciencesInc. also said it expects Veklury, its antiviral drug used to treat hospitalized patients, to retain effectiveness against Omicron as it has against other variants of concern.</p><p><blockquote>吉利德科学公司还表示,预计其用于治疗住院患者的抗病毒药物 Veklury 将保持对奥密克戎病毒的有效性,就像对其他令人担忧的变种一样。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Covid-19 Antibody Drugs Are Challenged by Omicron, Preliminary Testing Indicates<blockquote>初步测试表明,新冠肺炎抗体药物受到奥密克戎的挑战</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nCovid-19 Antibody Drugs Are Challenged by Omicron, Preliminary Testing Indicates<blockquote>初步测试表明,新冠肺炎抗体药物受到奥密克戎的挑战</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">The Wall Street Journal</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-11-30 19:59</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Regeneron said its antibody drug cocktail was found to lose effectiveness against the new variant</p><p><blockquote>再生元表示,其抗体药物鸡尾酒被发现对新变种失去效力</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ed6086131617e6933fe07f3e46cd5c26\" tg-width=\"1290\" tg-height=\"859\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>A monoclonal antibody treatment site in Pembroke Pines, Fla., earlier this year.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>今年早些时候,佛罗里达州彭布罗克派恩斯的一个单克隆抗体治疗点。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Preliminary tests indicate the Covid-19 antibody drug cocktail from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. loses effectiveness against Omicron, the company said Tuesday, a sign that some products in an important class of therapies might need modifying if the new strain becomes widespread.</p><p><blockquote>再生元制药公司周二表示,初步测试表明,该公司生产的 Covid-19 抗体药物鸡尾酒对奥密克戎病毒失去了效力,这表明如果新菌株广泛传播,一类重要疗法中的一些产品可能需要修改。</blockquote></p><p> Separate testing of another authorized Covid-19 antibody drug cocktail, from Eli Lilly& Co., indicates it also isn’t as effective against Omicron, outside scientists said. Lilly said it is testing the new variant against its antibody treatment and wouldn’t speculate on what the results will be.</p><p><blockquote>外部科学家说,对礼来公司(Eli Lilly&Co.礼来公司表示,它正在对这种新变种进行抗体治疗测试,不愿猜测结果会如何。</blockquote></p><p> The findings are the early results of researchers’ race to assess the impact of the new Omicron variant on Covid-19 treatments that patients, doctors and hospitals have been relying on, as well as pills in development that have promised to keep people out of the hospital.</p><p><blockquote>这些发现是研究人员竞赛的早期结果,旨在评估新的奥密克戎变种对病人、医生和医院一直依赖的 Covid-19 治疗方法的影响,以及正在开发的有望让人们远离医院的药丸。</blockquote></p><p> Researchers say some antibody therapies are likely to be especially vulnerable to Omicron because it contains mutations to the spike protein that the Regeneron and Lilly drugs target, while other drugs should hold up well because they attack elements of the virus unchanged in the variant.</p><p><blockquote>研究人员表示,一些抗体疗法可能特别容易受到奥密克戎病毒的影响,因为它包含再生元和礼来公司药物所针对的刺突蛋白的突变,而其他药物应该能很好地保持,因为它们攻击的是病毒变异体中不变的元素。</blockquote></p><p> Monoclonal antibodies are lab-made molecules derived from survivors of Covid-19 or mice engineered to have human immune systems. When given soon after infection, the drugs attach to the surface of the coronavirus and prevent it from replicating itself in new cells.</p><p><blockquote>单克隆抗体是实验室制造的分子,来源于新冠肺炎的幸存者或被改造成具有人类免疫系统的小鼠。当在感染后不久服用时,这些药物会附着在冠状病毒表面,并阻止其在新细胞中自我复制。</blockquote></p><p> They are the only drugs authorized to treat patients, before they require hospitalization, who are at high risk of developing severe cases.</p><p><blockquote>它们是唯一被授权用于治疗需要住院治疗的患者的药物,这些患者有发生严重病例的高风险。</blockquote></p><p> The drugs differ from vaccines, which train the immune system how to defend against the virus, including with the production of antibodies. Last year, former President Donald Trump credited Regeneron’s drug with his speedy recovery from Covid-19.</p><p><blockquote>这些药物不同于疫苗,疫苗训练免疫系统如何抵御病毒,包括产生抗体。去年,前总统唐纳德-特朗普(Donald Trump)将他从 Covid-19 中快速康复归功于再生元公司的药物。</blockquote></p><p> Regeneron said it would be able to quantify the impact of the variant in coming weeks, after further testing is done.</p><p><blockquote>再生元表示,在完成进一步测试后,它将能够在未来几周内量化该变种的影响。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6e7fac5c4630025e6c5ad28d2c3efbfa\" tg-width=\"1050\" tg-height=\"700\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Antiviral pills such as Pfizer’s Paxlovid appear to be unaffected by the variant.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>辉瑞公司的 Paxlovid 等抗病毒药物似乎不受该变种的影响。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> If final testing shows that its antibody drugs are less effective against Omicron, Regeneron has developed alternative antibodies that it can push into clinical testing and that it thinks will retain effectiveness against the variant, said George Yancopoulos, the company’s president and chief scientific officer.</p><p><blockquote>Regeneron 总裁兼首席科学官 George Yancopoulos 说,如果最终测试表明其抗体药物对奥密克戎病毒的疗效较差,那么 Regeneron 已经开发出了替代抗体,可以将其推入临床试验,并认为这些抗体将保持对该变异病毒的疗效。</blockquote></p><p> One of Regeneron’s alternative antibodies is already in clinical testing, which the company began in anticipation of new variants emerging over time.</p><p><blockquote>再生元公司的一种替代抗体已经在进行临床试验,该公司之所以开始临床试验,是因为预计随着时间的推移会出现新的变种。</blockquote></p><p> The Omicron variant was identified last week by scientists in South Africa, prompting drug researchers to scramble to see if the relatively small medicine chest of Covid-19 treatments would still work against the new strain if it ends up spreading widely.</p><p><blockquote>南非科学家上周发现了奥密克戎变种,这促使药物研究人员争先恐后地看看,如果这种新毒株最终广泛传播,相对较小的新冠肺炎治疗药物箱是否仍然可以对抗它。</blockquote></p><p> “What we have to admit is, in the course of the past six days, our urgency has increased,” Dr. Yancopoulos said in an interview. “What started out as a backup plan has now been made a lot more urgent.”</p><p><blockquote>“扬科普洛斯博士在接受采访时说:”我们不得不承认,在过去的六天里,我们的紧迫感增加了。“最初的后备计划现在变得更加紧迫”。</blockquote></p><p> Scientists at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle found that individual mutations from Omicron reduced or eliminated the ability of Regeneron’s and Lilly’s drugs to attach to the virus, said Allie Greaney, a Ph.D. candidate at the center and the University of Washington in Seattle.</p><p><blockquote>西雅图弗雷德-哈钦森癌症研究中心(Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center)和西雅图华盛顿大学(University of Washington in Seattle)的博士生艾莉-格里尼(Allie Greaney)说,该中心的科学家发现,奥密克戎病毒的个别突变会降低或消除再生元公司和礼来公司的药物附着在病毒上的能力。</blockquote></p><p> More comprehensive tests of the drugs against the entire variant are needed to fully understand the impact, she said. “I’m not certain what the exact magnitude of effect would be, but probably less effective,” said Ms. Greaney.</p><p><blockquote>她说,需要对这些药物针对整个变种进行更全面的测试,以充分了解其影响。“格里尼女士说:”我不确定这种影响的确切程度,但效果可能会较差。</blockquote></p><p> Lilly is in the process of testing the new variant against its drug, a combination of two antibodies called bamlanivimab and etesevimab,said Nicole Kallewaard, a Lilly virologist and research adviser.</p><p><blockquote>礼来公司病毒学家兼研究顾问妮可·卡勒瓦德 (Nicole Kallewaard) 表示,礼来公司正在测试针对其药物的新变种,该药物是两种抗体的组合,称为 bamlanivimab 和 etesevimab。</blockquote></p><p> She declined to comment on the results showing reduced effectiveness against individual Omicron mutations, because the results may differ when all of the mutations are combined.</p><p><blockquote>她拒绝对显示针对单个奥密克戎突变的有效性降低的结果发表评论,因为当所有突变组合时,结果可能会有所不同。</blockquote></p><p> “I think that we need to wait for confirmation of the whole virus,” said Dr. Kallewaard. “Hopefully, the data will come in the next few weeks.”</p><p><blockquote>“卡勒瓦德博士说:”我认为我们需要等待整个病毒的确认。“希望数据能在未来几周内公布”。</blockquote></p><p> A rise in the prevalence of Omicron could present an opportunity for competitors who say their drugs don’t appear in preliminary testing to be affected by the variant, including Vir Biotechnology Inc. and GlaxoSmithKline PLC, whose drug sotrovimab was authorized for emergency use earlier this year.</p><p><blockquote>奥密克戎病患病率的上升可能会为竞争对手提供一个机会,他们说自己的药物在初步测试中似乎没有受到这种变异的影响,其中包括 Vir Biotechnology Inc. 和葛兰素史克公司,后者的药物 sotrovimab 已于今年早些时候获准紧急使用。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> Fred Hutchinson researchers also said their initial testing indicated the Vir-GSK antibody drug retained its effectiveness.</p><p><blockquote>Fred Hutchinson研究人员还表示,他们的初步测试表明,Vir-GSK抗体药物保留了其有效性。</blockquote></p><p> Adagio Therapeutics Inc.,a biotech with a Covid-19 antibody drug in clinical trials, said its antibody also appears to be unaffected by the new variant.</p><p><blockquote>Adagio Therapeutics Inc. 是一家生物技术公司,其 Covid-19 抗体药物正在进行临床试验,该公司表示,其抗体似乎也不受新变种的影响。</blockquote></p><p> Vir, Glaxo and Adagio said they are conducting further tests to confirm that their drugs aren’t affected by Omicron.</p><p><blockquote>Vir、Glaxo 和 Adagio 表示,他们正在进行进一步的测试,以确认他们的药物不受奥密克戎病毒的影响。</blockquote></p><p> Omicron poses a threat to lab-made antibody drugs as well as antibodies generated by vaccines, because the new variant has mutations on the spike protein part of the virus where antibodies are known to frequently attach themselves, scientists say.</p><p><blockquote>科学家说,奥密克戎病毒对实验室制造的抗体药物以及疫苗产生的抗体构成威胁,因为这种新变种在病毒的刺突蛋白部分发生突变,已知抗体经常附着在刺突蛋白部分。</blockquote></p><p> Vir and Adagio officials said the companies designed their antibodies with the aim of targeting spots on the virus that are common across different coronaviruses that remained stable even after numerous mutations over many years.</p><p><blockquote>Vir 和 Adagio 的官员表示,这两家公司设计抗体的目的是针对不同冠状病毒中常见的病毒斑点,这些斑点即使经过多年的多次突变也保持稳定。</blockquote></p><p> “They bind to a region of the virus that through decades of evolution has not changed a lot,” Adagio Chief Executive Tillman Gerngross said in an interview. “Those conserved areas make the virus much more vulnerable” to antibodies.</p><p><blockquote>“Adagio 首席执行官蒂尔曼-格恩格罗斯(Tillman Gerngross)在接受采访时说:”它们与病毒中的一个区域结合在一起,这个区域经过几十年的演变并没有太大变化。“这些保守区域使病毒更容易受到抗体的攻击”。</blockquote></p><p> It will take at least two weeks to create a version of the full Omicron virus variant and test antibody drugs against it, company officials said. Still, scientists say they are concerned by what they know already about the variant’s ability to evade antibodies produced by vaccines, prior infection or from drug treatment.</p><p><blockquote>公司官员表示,创建完整的奥密克戎病毒变种版本并测试针对它的抗体药物至少需要两周时间。尽管如此,科学家们表示,他们对这种变异体逃避疫苗、既往感染或药物治疗产生的抗体的能力感到担忧。</blockquote></p><p> “Omicron hasn’t become the next Delta,” Vir Chief Scientific Officer Skip Virgin said in an interview. But “we think the extent of the mutations, the number of them, means that the world needs to take Omicron very seriously.”</p><p><blockquote>“Vir 首席科学官 Skip Virgin 在接受采访时说:”奥密克戎还没有成为下一个三角洲。但 “我们认为,突变的程度和数量意味着世界需要非常认真地对待奥密克戎”。</blockquote></p><p> Antiviral drugs, including pills from Merck& Co. and partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP and from Pfizer Inc. that are being evaluated for authorization,appear to be unaffected by the variant because they target a different site on the virus, said Michel Nussenzweig, an immunologist at Rockefeller University.</p><p><blockquote>米歇尔·努森茨威格 (Michel Nussenzweig) 表示,正在评估授权的抗病毒药物,包括默克公司 (Merck&Co.) 及其合作伙伴 Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP 和辉瑞公司 (Pfizer Inc.) 的药丸,似乎不受该变种的影响,因为它们针对的是病毒上的不同位点。洛克菲勒大学免疫学家。</blockquote></p><p> Doctors and patients have been looking forward to authorization of the pills, which in clinical trials have reduced the risk of hospitalization if taken early enough.</p><p><blockquote>医生和患者一直期待着这种药丸的授权,在临床试验中,如果服用得足够早,这种药丸可以降低住院的风险。</blockquote></p><p> “The targets of the pills appear to be under less pressure and may be OK, but this too needs to be tested,” said Dr. Nussenzweig.</p><p><blockquote>“Nussenzweig 博士说:”药丸的目标似乎压力较小,可能没问题,但这也需要进行测试。</blockquote></p><p> Pfizer and Merck said they expect their drugs to be effective against Omicron.</p><p><blockquote>辉瑞和默克表示,他们预计自己的药物能够有效对抗奥密克戎病。</blockquote></p><p> Gilead SciencesInc. also said it expects Veklury, its antiviral drug used to treat hospitalized patients, to retain effectiveness against Omicron as it has against other variants of concern.</p><p><blockquote>吉利德科学公司还表示,预计其用于治疗住院患者的抗病毒药物 Veklury 将保持对奥密克戎病毒的有效性,就像对其他令人担忧的变种一样。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-antibody-drugs-are-challenged-by-omicron-preliminary-testing-indicates-11638270003?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1\">The Wall Street Journal</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"LLY":"礼来","REGN":"再生元制药公司"},"source_url":"https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-antibody-drugs-are-challenged-by-omicron-preliminary-testing-indicates-11638270003?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1192203085","content_text":"Regeneron said its antibody drug cocktail was found to lose effectiveness against the new variant\nA monoclonal antibody treatment site in Pembroke Pines, Fla., earlier this year.\nPreliminary tests indicate the Covid-19 antibody drug cocktail from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. loses effectiveness against Omicron, the company said Tuesday, a sign that some products in an important class of therapies might need modifying if the new strain becomes widespread.\nSeparate testing of another authorized Covid-19 antibody drug cocktail, from Eli Lilly& Co., indicates it also isn’t as effective against Omicron, outside scientists said. Lilly said it is testing the new variant against its antibody treatment and wouldn’t speculate on what the results will be.\nThe findings are the early results of researchers’ race to assess the impact of the new Omicron variant on Covid-19 treatments that patients, doctors and hospitals have been relying on, as well as pills in development that have promised to keep people out of the hospital.\nResearchers say some antibody therapies are likely to be especially vulnerable to Omicron because it contains mutations to the spike protein that the Regeneron and Lilly drugs target, while other drugs should hold up well because they attack elements of the virus unchanged in the variant.\nMonoclonal antibodies are lab-made molecules derived from survivors of Covid-19 or mice engineered to have human immune systems. When given soon after infection, the drugs attach to the surface of the coronavirus and prevent it from replicating itself in new cells.\nThey are the only drugs authorized to treat patients, before they require hospitalization, who are at high risk of developing severe cases.\nThe drugs differ from vaccines, which train the immune system how to defend against the virus, including with the production of antibodies. Last year, former President Donald Trump credited Regeneron’s drug with his speedy recovery from Covid-19.\nRegeneron said it would be able to quantify the impact of the variant in coming weeks, after further testing is done.\nAntiviral pills such as Pfizer’s Paxlovid appear to be unaffected by the variant.\nIf final testing shows that its antibody drugs are less effective against Omicron, Regeneron has developed alternative antibodies that it can push into clinical testing and that it thinks will retain effectiveness against the variant, said George Yancopoulos, the company’s president and chief scientific officer.\nOne of Regeneron’s alternative antibodies is already in clinical testing, which the company began in anticipation of new variants emerging over time.\nThe Omicron variant was identified last week by scientists in South Africa, prompting drug researchers to scramble to see if the relatively small medicine chest of Covid-19 treatments would still work against the new strain if it ends up spreading widely.\n“What we have to admit is, in the course of the past six days, our urgency has increased,” Dr. Yancopoulos said in an interview. “What started out as a backup plan has now been made a lot more urgent.”\nScientists at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle found that individual mutations from Omicron reduced or eliminated the ability of Regeneron’s and Lilly’s drugs to attach to the virus, said Allie Greaney, a Ph.D. candidate at the center and the University of Washington in Seattle.\nMore comprehensive tests of the drugs against the entire variant are needed to fully understand the impact, she said. “I’m not certain what the exact magnitude of effect would be, but probably less effective,” said Ms. Greaney.\nLilly is in the process of testing the new variant against its drug, a combination of two antibodies called bamlanivimab and etesevimab,said Nicole Kallewaard, a Lilly virologist and research adviser.\nShe declined to comment on the results showing reduced effectiveness against individual Omicron mutations, because the results may differ when all of the mutations are combined.\n“I think that we need to wait for confirmation of the whole virus,” said Dr. Kallewaard. “Hopefully, the data will come in the next few weeks.”\nA rise in the prevalence of Omicron could present an opportunity for competitors who say their drugs don’t appear in preliminary testing to be affected by the variant, including Vir Biotechnology Inc. and GlaxoSmithKline PLC, whose drug sotrovimab was authorized for emergency use earlier this year.\nFred Hutchinson researchers also said their initial testing indicated the Vir-GSK antibody drug retained its effectiveness.\nAdagio Therapeutics Inc.,a biotech with a Covid-19 antibody drug in clinical trials, said its antibody also appears to be unaffected by the new variant.\nVir, Glaxo and Adagio said they are conducting further tests to confirm that their drugs aren’t affected by Omicron.\nOmicron poses a threat to lab-made antibody drugs as well as antibodies generated by vaccines, because the new variant has mutations on the spike protein part of the virus where antibodies are known to frequently attach themselves, scientists say.\nVir and Adagio officials said the companies designed their antibodies with the aim of targeting spots on the virus that are common across different coronaviruses that remained stable even after numerous mutations over many years.\n“They bind to a region of the virus that through decades of evolution has not changed a lot,” Adagio Chief Executive Tillman Gerngross said in an interview. “Those conserved areas make the virus much more vulnerable” to antibodies.\nIt will take at least two weeks to create a version of the full Omicron virus variant and test antibody drugs against it, company officials said. Still, scientists say they are concerned by what they know already about the variant’s ability to evade antibodies produced by vaccines, prior infection or from drug treatment.\n“Omicron hasn’t become the next Delta,” Vir Chief Scientific Officer Skip Virgin said in an interview. But “we think the extent of the mutations, the number of them, means that the world needs to take Omicron very seriously.”\nAntiviral drugs, including pills from Merck& Co. and partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP and from Pfizer Inc. that are being evaluated for authorization,appear to be unaffected by the variant because they target a different site on the virus, said Michel Nussenzweig, an immunologist at Rockefeller University.\nDoctors and patients have been looking forward to authorization of the pills, which in clinical trials have reduced the risk of hospitalization if taken early enough.\n“The targets of the pills appear to be under less pressure and may be OK, but this too needs to be tested,” said Dr. Nussenzweig.\nPfizer and Merck said they expect their drugs to be effective against Omicron.\nGilead SciencesInc. also said it expects Veklury, its antiviral drug used to treat hospitalized patients, to retain effectiveness against Omicron as it has against other variants of concern.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"LLY":0.9,"REGN":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3840,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":841625251,"gmtCreate":1635908578139,"gmtModify":1635908578139,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3585191808723701","idStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"If you want to buy, just be patient.","listText":"If you want to buy, just be patient.","text":"If you want to buy, just be patient.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/841625251","repostId":"1119852155","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1119852155","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1635844360,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1119852155?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-02 17:12","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading<blockquote>特斯拉股价在盘前交易中下跌超过 6%</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1119852155","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading Tuesday after four consecutive days of gains.El","content":"<p>Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading Tuesday after four consecutive days of gains.Elon Musk said Tesla Inc. hasn’t yet signed a contract with Hertz Global Holdings Inc..In additionTesla rival Rivian seeks to raise $8.4 billion in IPO.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉股价在连续四天上涨后,周二盘前交易中下跌超过 6%。此外,特斯拉竞争对手Rivian寻求通过 IPO 筹集 84 亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8355cee0e2871b4c60c1b78ebd98a7fd\" tg-width=\"848\" tg-height=\"617\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> Musk was replying to a tweet from an account named Tesla Silicon Valley Club, which showed a chart ofTesla’s rising stock price along with a thank you to the company’s chief executive officer, the world’s richest person.</p><p><blockquote>马斯克是在回复一个名为特斯拉硅谷俱乐部的账户的一条推文,该账户显示了特斯拉股价上涨的图表,以及对该公司首席执行官、世界首富的感谢。</blockquote></p><p> News ofHertz’s order on Oct. 25, only around four months after the company emerged from bankruptcy, sent Tesla’s shares up 13% on the day and its market value past $1 trillion for the first time. The rally has continued, with the stock closing at a record high in New York Monday. Hertz, which trades over the counter ahead of a relisting on the Nasdaq Stock Market, has climbed 38% since the start of last week.</p><p><blockquote>10 月 25 日,也就是该公司摆脱破产仅四个月后,赫兹的命令就使特斯拉的股价当天上涨了 13%,市值首次突破 1 万亿美元。涨势仍在继续,该股周一在纽约收盘创下历史新高。赫兹在纳斯达克股市重新上市前进行场外交易,自上周初以来已上涨 38%。</blockquote></p><p> The order for 100,000 vehicles is equivalent to about a tenth of what Tesla can produce annually. Florida-based Hertz said it would be paying full price.</p><p><blockquote>10万辆的订单相当于特斯拉年产量的十分之一左右。总部位于佛罗里达州的赫兹表示将支付全价。</blockquote></p><p> “The initial interest is exceeding our expectations,” Hertz’s interim CEO Mark Fields said last week as traffic to the company’s website soared, especially for its Tesla rental portal. “It shows that our message got through.”</p><p><blockquote>“赫兹临时首席执行官马克-菲尔兹(Mark Fields)上周表示:”最初的兴趣超出了我们的预期。“这表明我们的信息得到了传达”。</blockquote></p><p> Hertz has hired seven-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback Tom Brady to star in advertisements showcasing the new Teslas.</p><p><blockquote>赫兹聘请了七次赢得超级碗的四分卫汤姆·布雷迪出演展示新款特斯拉的广告。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading<blockquote>特斯拉股价在盘前交易中下跌超过 6%</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading<blockquote>特斯拉股价在盘前交易中下跌超过 6%</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time smaller\">2021-11-02 17:12</p>\n</div>\n</a>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading Tuesday after four consecutive days of gains.Elon Musk said Tesla Inc. hasn’t yet signed a contract with Hertz Global Holdings Inc..In additionTesla rival Rivian seeks to raise $8.4 billion in IPO.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉股价在连续四天上涨后,周二盘前交易中下跌超过 6%。此外,特斯拉竞争对手Rivian寻求通过 IPO 筹集 84 亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8355cee0e2871b4c60c1b78ebd98a7fd\" tg-width=\"848\" tg-height=\"617\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> Musk was replying to a tweet from an account named Tesla Silicon Valley Club, which showed a chart ofTesla’s rising stock price along with a thank you to the company’s chief executive officer, the world’s richest person.</p><p><blockquote>马斯克是在回复一个名为特斯拉硅谷俱乐部的账户的一条推文,该账户显示了特斯拉股价上涨的图表,以及对该公司首席执行官、世界首富的感谢。</blockquote></p><p> News ofHertz’s order on Oct. 25, only around four months after the company emerged from bankruptcy, sent Tesla’s shares up 13% on the day and its market value past $1 trillion for the first time. The rally has continued, with the stock closing at a record high in New York Monday. Hertz, which trades over the counter ahead of a relisting on the Nasdaq Stock Market, has climbed 38% since the start of last week.</p><p><blockquote>10 月 25 日,也就是该公司摆脱破产仅四个月后,赫兹的命令就使特斯拉的股价当天上涨了 13%,市值首次突破 1 万亿美元。涨势仍在继续,该股周一在纽约收盘创下历史新高。赫兹在纳斯达克股市重新上市前进行场外交易,自上周初以来已上涨 38%。</blockquote></p><p> The order for 100,000 vehicles is equivalent to about a tenth of what Tesla can produce annually. Florida-based Hertz said it would be paying full price.</p><p><blockquote>10万辆的订单相当于特斯拉年产量的十分之一左右。总部位于佛罗里达州的赫兹表示将支付全价。</blockquote></p><p> “The initial interest is exceeding our expectations,” Hertz’s interim CEO Mark Fields said last week as traffic to the company’s website soared, especially for its Tesla rental portal. “It shows that our message got through.”</p><p><blockquote>“赫兹临时首席执行官马克-菲尔兹(Mark Fields)上周表示:”最初的兴趣超出了我们的预期。“这表明我们的信息得到了传达”。</blockquote></p><p> Hertz has hired seven-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback Tom Brady to star in advertisements showcasing the new Teslas.</p><p><blockquote>赫兹聘请了七次赢得超级碗的四分卫汤姆·布雷迪出演展示新款特斯拉的广告。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1119852155","content_text":"Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading Tuesday after four consecutive days of gains.Elon Musk said Tesla Inc. hasn’t yet signed a contract with Hertz Global Holdings Inc..In additionTesla rival Rivian seeks to raise $8.4 billion in IPO.\n\nMusk was replying to a tweet from an account named Tesla Silicon Valley Club, which showed a chart ofTesla’s rising stock price along with a thank you to the company’s chief executive officer, the world’s richest person.\nNews ofHertz’s order on Oct. 25, only around four months after the company emerged from bankruptcy, sent Tesla’s shares up 13% on the day and its market value past $1 trillion for the first time. The rally has continued, with the stock closing at a record high in New York Monday. Hertz, which trades over the counter ahead of a relisting on the Nasdaq Stock Market, has climbed 38% since the start of last week.\nThe order for 100,000 vehicles is equivalent to about a tenth of what Tesla can produce annually. Florida-based Hertz said it would be paying full price.\n“The initial interest is exceeding our expectations,” Hertz’s interim CEO Mark Fields said last week as traffic to the company’s website soared, especially for its Tesla rental portal. “It shows that our message got through.”\nHertz has hired seven-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback Tom Brady to star in advertisements showcasing the new Teslas.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"TSLA":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3527,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":166247231,"gmtCreate":1624014610123,"gmtModify":1634024115628,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3585191808723701","idStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"[强] ","listText":"[强] ","text":"[强]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/166247231","repostId":"1148576248","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1148576248","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1623979883,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1148576248?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-18 09:31","market":"us","language":"en","title":"NIO Is Winning<blockquote>蔚来赢了</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1148576248","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"NIO is #1 in China's electric SUV market for good reason.The company's success is driven by its brilliant innovations and marketing strategy.NIO is growing faster than Tesla, and yet, it is trading at a discount.NIO Inc. stands out for its strong market position- #1 market share in electric SUV in China- and innovation in the rapidly growing and highly competitive electric vehicle industry. This article will discuss why NIO is winning against some stiff competition, including against Tesla .In ","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>NIO is #1 in China's electric SUV market for good reason.</li> <li>The company's success is driven by its brilliant innovations and marketing strategy.</li> <li>NIO is growing faster than Tesla, and yet, it is trading at a discount.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/790fae23b830463fec748d2deb2ce336\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>PonyWang/E+ via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>蔚来在中国电动SUV市场排名第一是有充分理由的。</li><li>该公司的成功是由其出色的创新和营销策略推动的。</li><li>蔚来的增长速度比特斯拉快,然而,它的交易价格却打折了。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>PonyWang/E+ 来自 Getty Images</span></p></blockquote></p><p> NIO Inc. (NYSE:NIO) stands out for its strong market position- #1 market share in electric SUV in China- and innovation in the rapidly growing and highly competitive electric vehicle industry. This article will discuss why NIO is winning against some stiff competition, including against Tesla (TSLA).</p><p><blockquote>蔚来(纽约证券交易所股票代码:NIO)以其强大的市场地位——中国电动SUV市场份额第一——以及在快速增长且竞争激烈的电动汽车行业中的创新而脱颖而出。本文将讨论为什么蔚来能够战胜一些激烈的竞争,包括特斯拉(TSLA)。</blockquote></p><p> In addition, we will discuss NIO's business, financials, trading, valuation, and risks so readers could reach their own informed decision.</p><p><blockquote>此外,我们还将讨论蔚来汽车的业务、财务、交易、估值和风险,以便读者能够做出自己的明智决定。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Business: Why NIO Wins</b></p><p><blockquote><b>商业:蔚来为何获胜</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO positions itself in the premium SUV segment, focusing on smart EVs with a differentiated battery strategy.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来将自己定位在高端SUV细分市场,专注于具有差异化电池战略的智能电动汽车。</blockquote></p><p> Delivered in March 2019, the company's first model, the ES8, is a luxury 7-seater SUV that is still the company's flagship product today. The ES8 is equipped with ADAS and AI system [NOMI] and is comparable to the BYD Song, Tesla Model X, the Audi Q7 45 e-Tron, etc.</p><p><blockquote>该公司的首款车型ES8于2019年3月交付,是一款豪华7座SUV,至今仍是该公司的旗舰产品。ES8配备ADAS和AI系统【NOMI】,与比亚迪宋、特斯拉Model X、奥迪Q7 45 e-Tron等不相上下。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443e2773f70c00c6faac8ca063e978a5\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"387\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:公司</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Leveraging the installed base and customer goodwill due to the highly successful ES8, NIO successfully launched the ES6 and EC6.Recently, the company launched the ET7, its first sedan.</p><p><blockquote>凭借 ES8 的巨大成功所带来的安装基础和客户好感,蔚来成功推出了 ES6 和 EC6。最近,该公司推出了其首款轿车ET7。</blockquote></p><p> Today, NIO is the top-selling brand in China's all-electric SUV market in April with a 23% market share, higher than Tesla's 17%, WM Motor and XPeng Motors'(NYSE:XPEV)7%, according to China Automotive Technology and Research Center data.</p><p><blockquote>如今,蔚来是4月份中国全电动SUV市场最畅销的品牌,市场份额为23%,高于特斯拉的17%、威马汽车和小鹏汽车(纽约证券交易所股票代码:XPEV)的7%。中国汽车技术研究中心数据。</blockquote></p><p> One of the biggest competitive differentiators is NIO'sbattery strategy, which all but eliminates range anxiety, one of the biggest barriers to mass EV adoption. Not only could NIO cars be charged at any charging station for EVs, but the company also built hundreds of battery swapping stations in key cities in China, with plans to expanding to Europe.</p><p><blockquote>最大的竞争优势之一是蔚来的电池战略,它几乎消除了里程焦虑,这是大规模电动汽车采用的最大障碍之一。蔚来汽车不仅可以在任何电动汽车充电站充电,该公司还在国内主要城市建设了数百个换电站,并计划扩展到欧洲。</blockquote></p><p> NIO's battery swapping strategy also gives the company the ability to offer a battery-as-a-service [BaaS] solution, which reduces the upfrontcostof purchasing an NIO vehicle by ~$11,000. Since cost is another major barrier to mass EV adoption, NIO's battery strategy appears brilliant as it solves both the range and cost problems.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来的电池更换策略还使该公司能够提供电池即服务 [BaaS] 解决方案,从而将购买蔚来汽车的前期成本降低约 11,000 美元。由于成本是大规模电动汽车采用的另一个主要障碍,蔚来汽车的电池战略似乎非常出色,因为它解决了续航里程和成本问题。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5b25fbb85bffd39310cd27cbb2bde57a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"216\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:公司</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Another differentiator is the NIO brand, which management created brilliantly by introducing the EP9 in 2016. Six EP9s have been sold to NIO investors for 2.5 million pounds, creating an aura of exclusivity and quality around the brand. Next, NIO targeted the mass-market luxury SUV segment with the ES8, firmly establishing the company as a luxury car OEM.</p><p><blockquote>另一个差异化因素是蔚来品牌,管理层通过在2016年推出EP9出色地打造了这一品牌。六辆 EP9 已以 250 万英镑的价格出售给蔚来投资者,为该品牌营造了一种独特性和品质的氛围。接下来,蔚来通过ES8瞄准大众市场豪华SUV细分市场,牢牢确立了该公司作为豪华车OEM的地位。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ad41c960ce02f1e3f3e7575ac00beee0\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"350\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:公司</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Chinese companies must struggle against the common perception that they make low-quality products. This is the same perception issue that Japanese companies faced following their defeat after WW2. Japan solved this problem by moving up the value chain as their economy matured and creating high-quality brands such as Sony(NYSE:SONY). Today, Japan is known for its craftsmanship.</p><p><blockquote>中国企业必须与人们普遍认为它们生产低质量产品的看法作斗争。这与二战后日本企业战败后面临的认知问题相同。随着经济的成熟,日本通过向价值链上游移动并创建索尼(纽约证券交易所代码:SONY)等高质量品牌来解决这个问题。今天,日本以其工艺而闻名。</blockquote></p><p> China is following the same trajectory, and NIO is one of the emerging brands destroying the perception that \"made in China\" equates to poor quality. I strongly believe that investors who stubbornly hold on to that old perception will miss out on investing in some of the greatest brands the world will ever see.</p><p><blockquote>中国也在遵循同样的轨迹,蔚来是打破“中国制造”等同于低质量观念的新兴品牌之一。我坚信,顽固地坚持这种旧观念的投资者将会错过投资世界上有史以来最伟大的品牌的机会。</blockquote></p><p> Buying an NIO car means much more than just getting a vehicle; it means getting into an exclusive club of services and convenience. Benefits include access to hundreds of swapping stations, lifetime free roadside rescue (including charge vans), lifetime free cellular connectivity, lifetime free warranty, and excellent customer service. This is a powerful selling point for NIO, differentiating it from Tesla, which hasrecentlydeveloped a poor reputation on the customer service front in China.</p><p><blockquote>购买蔚来汽车不仅仅意味着得到一辆车;这意味着进入一个服务和便利的专属俱乐部。好处包括使用数百个交换站、终身免费路边救援(包括收费货车)、终身免费蜂窝连接、终身免费保修和卓越的客户服务。这是蔚来的一个强大卖点,使其有别于特斯拉,后者最近在中国大陆的客户服务方面声誉不佳。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a73482aa0431694b760ab5c2d0aa6f53\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"211\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:公司</span></p></blockquote></p><p></p><p> The company is pushing the envelope even further with NIO House, a literal clubhouse for customers, and NIO Life, which includes NIO branded lifestyle products. NIO's effort to build a lifestyle around its cars seems to be working. This is good news for investors because the only way to escape the competitive battlefield of automobile OEM is to sell services and lifestyles to customers. This is why Ferrari's (RACE) operating margin is well over 20%, while Ford (F) and General Motors (GM) are in the single digits.</p><p><blockquote>该公司正在通过蔚来之家(一个真正的顾客俱乐部会所)和蔚来人寿(包括蔚来品牌的生活方式产品)进一步突破界限。蔚来围绕汽车构建生活方式的努力似乎正在奏效。这对投资者来说是个好消息,因为要想逃离汽车代工厂的竞争战场,唯一的办法就是向客户推销服务和生活方式。这就是为什么法拉利(赛车)营业利润率远高于 20%,而福特 (F) 和通用汽车 (GM) 则为个位数。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Financials & Valuation</b></p><p><blockquote><b>财务与估值</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO is in hyper-growth mode. In 2020, the company generated $2.5 billion in revenue, up 126% y/y. In 2021, the company is expected to grow 117% y/y to $5.4 billion.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来正处于高速增长模式。2020年,该公司实现收入25亿美元,同比增长126%。2021年,该公司预计将同比增长117%,达到54亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> The company is not yet profitable but is expected to be by 2022. Gross margin only turned positive in 2020 and is expected to be 19.3% in 2021. EBITDA is expected to be negative $258 million in 2021 and a positive $206 million in 2022. Free cash flow is expected to be negative $42 million in 2021 before turning to a positive $354 million in 2022.</p><p><blockquote>该公司尚未盈利,但预计到2022年将实现盈利。毛利率仅在2020年转正,预计2021年为19.3%。预计 2021 年 EBITDA 为负 2.58 亿美元,2022 年为正 2.06 亿美元。自由现金流预计在2021年为负4200万美元,然后在2022年转为正3.54亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> However, despite the cash burn expected in 2021, investors should feel at ease since the company exited 2020 with $5.9 billion of cash and cash equivalents. Including $600 million in short-term investments and subtracting ~$2.1 billion in debt and operating leases and the expected negative free cash flow in 2021, NIO should exit 2021 with over $4 billion in net cash and investments. That is plenty of buffers since NIO is expected to generate positive free cash flow in 2022.</p><p><blockquote>然而,尽管预计 2021 年将出现现金消耗,但投资者应该感到安心,因为该公司在 2020 年退出时拥有 59 亿美元的现金和现金等价物。包括 6 亿美元的短期投资,减去约 21 亿美元的债务和经营租赁以及 2021 年预期的负自由现金流,蔚来在 2021 年退出时应该拥有超过 40 亿美元的净现金和投资。这是充足的缓冲,因为蔚来预计将在 2022 年产生正自由现金流。</blockquote></p><p> Since NIO is not yet profitable, we will look at the forward EV/Sales multiple as is typical for hyper-growth companies not yet generating a profit. The company went public in September 2018, trading at around 7 to 8 times EV/Sales, before bottoming out at around 0.7 times sales in May 2019. The market, however, caught the EV fever in April 2020 and sent NIO's valuation soaring to a peak of 14.6x by January 2021. After the growth sell-off we recently experienced, NIO is currently sitting at a much more reasonable 8 times forward sales. This is a significant discount to TSLA's 10.2 times forward EV/Sales despite growing twice as fast (TSLA is expected to grow revenues by 57% in 2021 compared to NIO's 117%).</p><p><blockquote>由于蔚来尚未盈利,我们将关注未来的电动汽车/销售倍数,这是尚未盈利的高速增长公司的典型情况。该公司于2018年9月上市,交易价格约为电动汽车/销售额的7至8倍,然后在2019年5月触底,约为销售额的0.7倍。然而,市场在2020年4月掀起了电动汽车热潮,蔚来汽车的估值在2021年1月飙升至14.6倍的峰值。在我们最近经历的增长抛售之后,蔚来目前的远期销售额要合理得多。尽管增长速度是 TSLA 10.2 倍,但这比 TSLA 10.2 倍的电动汽车/销量大幅折扣(TSLA 预计 2021 年收入将增长 57%,而蔚来汽车为 117%)。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Risks</b></p><p><blockquote><b>风险</b></blockquote></p><p> There are many risks associated with owning NIO.</p><p><blockquote>拥有蔚来存在许多风险。</blockquote></p><p> Although its battery swapping strategy is highly differentiated and seems to be growing rapidly, the jury is still out on the ultimate market share of battery swapping or fast-charging infrastructure. If fast charging technology continues to advance significantly, it will likely erode a key advantage of battery swapping: speed.</p><p><blockquote>尽管其电池更换战略高度差异化,并且似乎正在快速增长,但电池更换或快速充电基础设施的最终市场份额仍然没有定论。如果快速充电技术继续大幅进步,很可能会侵蚀电池更换的一个关键优势:速度。</blockquote></p><p> NIO's business model is innovative and new. Unfortunately, the flip side of that is that it is untested, and NIO remains unprofitable. For many investors, NIO will remain a \"show me\" story until the profitability of its business model improves.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来的商业模式具有创新性和新颖性。不幸的是,另一方面是它未经测试,蔚来仍然无利可图。对于许多投资者来说,在其商业模式的盈利能力提高之前,蔚来仍将是一个“给我看”的故事。</blockquote></p><p> NIO's ability to expand globally may be limited by the rising geopolitical tension between China and the US, and to a lesser extent, with Japan and Europe. The geopolitical situation remains highly opaque and uncertain, and is a risk factor for all auto OEMs.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来汽车的全球扩张能力可能会受到中美地缘政治紧张局势的限制,以及在较小程度上与日本和欧洲的地缘政治紧张局势的限制。地缘政治局势仍然高度不透明和不确定,是所有汽车原始设备制造商的风险因素。</blockquote></p><p> Auto OEMs are currently facing a severe chip shortage. In addition, the chip density in automobiles is increasing, making the OEMs increasingly reliant on semiconductor suppliers and foundries.</p><p><blockquote>汽车主机厂目前正面临着严重的芯片短缺。此外,汽车中的芯片密度不断增加,使得原始设备制造商越来越依赖半导体供应商和代工厂。</blockquote></p><p> NIO's competitive advantages may not overcome the massive scale advantage of ICE OEMs and much bigger EV players like Tesla and China's BYD.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来的竞争优势可能无法克服ICE原始设备制造商以及特斯拉和中国比亚迪等更大的电动汽车制造商的巨大规模优势。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Takeaway</b></p><p><blockquote><b>外卖</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO's technical and business model innovations make it a highly differentiated company in the exciting and rapidly growing EV market. The company is winning, and its competitive moat is getting bigger as its ecosystem of vehicles and services grows. Relative to the industry leader, Tesla, NIO's stock price seems like a bargain given its faster growth rate and lower multiples.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来的技术和商业模式创新使其在令人兴奋且快速增长的电动汽车市场中成为一家高度差异化的公司。该公司正在获胜,随着其汽车和服务生态系统的发展,其竞争护城河也在变得越来越大。相对于行业领导者特斯拉,鉴于蔚来汽车更快的增长率和较低的市盈率,其股价似乎很便宜。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>NIO Is Winning<blockquote>蔚来赢了</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nNIO Is Winning<blockquote>蔚来赢了</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">seekingalpha</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-06-18 09:31</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>NIO is #1 in China's electric SUV market for good reason.</li> <li>The company's success is driven by its brilliant innovations and marketing strategy.</li> <li>NIO is growing faster than Tesla, and yet, it is trading at a discount.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/790fae23b830463fec748d2deb2ce336\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>PonyWang/E+ via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>蔚来在中国电动SUV市场排名第一是有充分理由的。</li><li>该公司的成功是由其出色的创新和营销策略推动的。</li><li>蔚来的增长速度比特斯拉快,然而,它的交易价格却打折了。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>PonyWang/E+ 来自 Getty Images</span></p></blockquote></p><p> NIO Inc. (NYSE:NIO) stands out for its strong market position- #1 market share in electric SUV in China- and innovation in the rapidly growing and highly competitive electric vehicle industry. This article will discuss why NIO is winning against some stiff competition, including against Tesla (TSLA).</p><p><blockquote>蔚来(纽约证券交易所股票代码:NIO)以其强大的市场地位——中国电动SUV市场份额第一——以及在快速增长且竞争激烈的电动汽车行业中的创新而脱颖而出。本文将讨论为什么蔚来能够战胜一些激烈的竞争,包括特斯拉(TSLA)。</blockquote></p><p> In addition, we will discuss NIO's business, financials, trading, valuation, and risks so readers could reach their own informed decision.</p><p><blockquote>此外,我们还将讨论蔚来汽车的业务、财务、交易、估值和风险,以便读者能够做出自己的明智决定。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Business: Why NIO Wins</b></p><p><blockquote><b>商业:蔚来为何获胜</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO positions itself in the premium SUV segment, focusing on smart EVs with a differentiated battery strategy.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来将自己定位在高端SUV细分市场,专注于具有差异化电池战略的智能电动汽车。</blockquote></p><p> Delivered in March 2019, the company's first model, the ES8, is a luxury 7-seater SUV that is still the company's flagship product today. The ES8 is equipped with ADAS and AI system [NOMI] and is comparable to the BYD Song, Tesla Model X, the Audi Q7 45 e-Tron, etc.</p><p><blockquote>该公司的首款车型ES8于2019年3月交付,是一款豪华7座SUV,至今仍是该公司的旗舰产品。ES8配备ADAS和AI系统【NOMI】,与比亚迪宋、特斯拉Model X、奥迪Q7 45 e-Tron等不相上下。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443e2773f70c00c6faac8ca063e978a5\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"387\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:公司</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Leveraging the installed base and customer goodwill due to the highly successful ES8, NIO successfully launched the ES6 and EC6.Recently, the company launched the ET7, its first sedan.</p><p><blockquote>凭借 ES8 的巨大成功所带来的安装基础和客户好感,蔚来成功推出了 ES6 和 EC6。最近,该公司推出了其首款轿车ET7。</blockquote></p><p> Today, NIO is the top-selling brand in China's all-electric SUV market in April with a 23% market share, higher than Tesla's 17%, WM Motor and XPeng Motors'(NYSE:XPEV)7%, according to China Automotive Technology and Research Center data.</p><p><blockquote>如今,蔚来是4月份中国全电动SUV市场最畅销的品牌,市场份额为23%,高于特斯拉的17%、威马汽车和小鹏汽车(纽约证券交易所股票代码:XPEV)的7%。中国汽车技术研究中心数据。</blockquote></p><p> One of the biggest competitive differentiators is NIO'sbattery strategy, which all but eliminates range anxiety, one of the biggest barriers to mass EV adoption. Not only could NIO cars be charged at any charging station for EVs, but the company also built hundreds of battery swapping stations in key cities in China, with plans to expanding to Europe.</p><p><blockquote>最大的竞争优势之一是蔚来的电池战略,它几乎消除了里程焦虑,这是大规模电动汽车采用的最大障碍之一。蔚来汽车不仅可以在任何电动汽车充电站充电,该公司还在国内主要城市建设了数百个换电站,并计划扩展到欧洲。</blockquote></p><p> NIO's battery swapping strategy also gives the company the ability to offer a battery-as-a-service [BaaS] solution, which reduces the upfrontcostof purchasing an NIO vehicle by ~$11,000. Since cost is another major barrier to mass EV adoption, NIO's battery strategy appears brilliant as it solves both the range and cost problems.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来的电池更换策略还使该公司能够提供电池即服务 [BaaS] 解决方案,从而将购买蔚来汽车的前期成本降低约 11,000 美元。由于成本是大规模电动汽车采用的另一个主要障碍,蔚来汽车的电池战略似乎非常出色,因为它解决了续航里程和成本问题。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5b25fbb85bffd39310cd27cbb2bde57a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"216\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:公司</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Another differentiator is the NIO brand, which management created brilliantly by introducing the EP9 in 2016. Six EP9s have been sold to NIO investors for 2.5 million pounds, creating an aura of exclusivity and quality around the brand. Next, NIO targeted the mass-market luxury SUV segment with the ES8, firmly establishing the company as a luxury car OEM.</p><p><blockquote>另一个差异化因素是蔚来品牌,管理层通过在2016年推出EP9出色地打造了这一品牌。六辆 EP9 已以 250 万英镑的价格出售给蔚来投资者,为该品牌营造了一种独特性和品质的氛围。接下来,蔚来通过ES8瞄准大众市场豪华SUV细分市场,牢牢确立了该公司作为豪华车OEM的地位。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ad41c960ce02f1e3f3e7575ac00beee0\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"350\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:公司</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Chinese companies must struggle against the common perception that they make low-quality products. This is the same perception issue that Japanese companies faced following their defeat after WW2. Japan solved this problem by moving up the value chain as their economy matured and creating high-quality brands such as Sony(NYSE:SONY). Today, Japan is known for its craftsmanship.</p><p><blockquote>中国企业必须与人们普遍认为它们生产低质量产品的看法作斗争。这与二战后日本企业战败后面临的认知问题相同。随着经济的成熟,日本通过向价值链上游移动并创建索尼(纽约证券交易所代码:SONY)等高质量品牌来解决这个问题。今天,日本以其工艺而闻名。</blockquote></p><p> China is following the same trajectory, and NIO is one of the emerging brands destroying the perception that \"made in China\" equates to poor quality. I strongly believe that investors who stubbornly hold on to that old perception will miss out on investing in some of the greatest brands the world will ever see.</p><p><blockquote>中国也在遵循同样的轨迹,蔚来是打破“中国制造”等同于低质量观念的新兴品牌之一。我坚信,顽固地坚持这种旧观念的投资者将会错过投资世界上有史以来最伟大的品牌的机会。</blockquote></p><p> Buying an NIO car means much more than just getting a vehicle; it means getting into an exclusive club of services and convenience. Benefits include access to hundreds of swapping stations, lifetime free roadside rescue (including charge vans), lifetime free cellular connectivity, lifetime free warranty, and excellent customer service. This is a powerful selling point for NIO, differentiating it from Tesla, which hasrecentlydeveloped a poor reputation on the customer service front in China.</p><p><blockquote>购买蔚来汽车不仅仅意味着得到一辆车;这意味着进入一个服务和便利的专属俱乐部。好处包括使用数百个交换站、终身免费路边救援(包括收费货车)、终身免费蜂窝连接、终身免费保修和卓越的客户服务。这是蔚来的一个强大卖点,使其有别于特斯拉,后者最近在中国大陆的客户服务方面声誉不佳。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a73482aa0431694b760ab5c2d0aa6f53\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"211\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:公司</span></p></blockquote></p><p></p><p> The company is pushing the envelope even further with NIO House, a literal clubhouse for customers, and NIO Life, which includes NIO branded lifestyle products. NIO's effort to build a lifestyle around its cars seems to be working. This is good news for investors because the only way to escape the competitive battlefield of automobile OEM is to sell services and lifestyles to customers. This is why Ferrari's (RACE) operating margin is well over 20%, while Ford (F) and General Motors (GM) are in the single digits.</p><p><blockquote>该公司正在通过蔚来之家(一个真正的顾客俱乐部会所)和蔚来人寿(包括蔚来品牌的生活方式产品)进一步突破界限。蔚来围绕汽车构建生活方式的努力似乎正在奏效。这对投资者来说是个好消息,因为要想逃离汽车代工厂的竞争战场,唯一的办法就是向客户推销服务和生活方式。这就是为什么法拉利(赛车)营业利润率远高于 20%,而福特 (F) 和通用汽车 (GM) 则为个位数。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Financials & Valuation</b></p><p><blockquote><b>财务与估值</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO is in hyper-growth mode. In 2020, the company generated $2.5 billion in revenue, up 126% y/y. In 2021, the company is expected to grow 117% y/y to $5.4 billion.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来正处于高速增长模式。2020年,该公司实现收入25亿美元,同比增长126%。2021年,该公司预计将同比增长117%,达到54亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> The company is not yet profitable but is expected to be by 2022. Gross margin only turned positive in 2020 and is expected to be 19.3% in 2021. EBITDA is expected to be negative $258 million in 2021 and a positive $206 million in 2022. Free cash flow is expected to be negative $42 million in 2021 before turning to a positive $354 million in 2022.</p><p><blockquote>该公司尚未盈利,但预计到2022年将实现盈利。毛利率仅在2020年转正,预计2021年为19.3%。预计 2021 年 EBITDA 为负 2.58 亿美元,2022 年为正 2.06 亿美元。自由现金流预计在2021年为负4200万美元,然后在2022年转为正3.54亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> However, despite the cash burn expected in 2021, investors should feel at ease since the company exited 2020 with $5.9 billion of cash and cash equivalents. Including $600 million in short-term investments and subtracting ~$2.1 billion in debt and operating leases and the expected negative free cash flow in 2021, NIO should exit 2021 with over $4 billion in net cash and investments. That is plenty of buffers since NIO is expected to generate positive free cash flow in 2022.</p><p><blockquote>然而,尽管预计 2021 年将出现现金消耗,但投资者应该感到安心,因为该公司在 2020 年退出时拥有 59 亿美元的现金和现金等价物。包括 6 亿美元的短期投资,减去约 21 亿美元的债务和经营租赁以及 2021 年预期的负自由现金流,蔚来在 2021 年退出时应该拥有超过 40 亿美元的净现金和投资。这是充足的缓冲,因为蔚来预计将在 2022 年产生正自由现金流。</blockquote></p><p> Since NIO is not yet profitable, we will look at the forward EV/Sales multiple as is typical for hyper-growth companies not yet generating a profit. The company went public in September 2018, trading at around 7 to 8 times EV/Sales, before bottoming out at around 0.7 times sales in May 2019. The market, however, caught the EV fever in April 2020 and sent NIO's valuation soaring to a peak of 14.6x by January 2021. After the growth sell-off we recently experienced, NIO is currently sitting at a much more reasonable 8 times forward sales. This is a significant discount to TSLA's 10.2 times forward EV/Sales despite growing twice as fast (TSLA is expected to grow revenues by 57% in 2021 compared to NIO's 117%).</p><p><blockquote>由于蔚来尚未盈利,我们将关注未来的电动汽车/销售倍数,这是尚未盈利的高速增长公司的典型情况。该公司于2018年9月上市,交易价格约为电动汽车/销售额的7至8倍,然后在2019年5月触底,约为销售额的0.7倍。然而,市场在2020年4月掀起了电动汽车热潮,蔚来汽车的估值在2021年1月飙升至14.6倍的峰值。在我们最近经历的增长抛售之后,蔚来目前的远期销售额要合理得多。尽管增长速度是 TSLA 10.2 倍,但这比 TSLA 10.2 倍的电动汽车/销量大幅折扣(TSLA 预计 2021 年收入将增长 57%,而蔚来汽车为 117%)。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Risks</b></p><p><blockquote><b>风险</b></blockquote></p><p> There are many risks associated with owning NIO.</p><p><blockquote>拥有蔚来存在许多风险。</blockquote></p><p> Although its battery swapping strategy is highly differentiated and seems to be growing rapidly, the jury is still out on the ultimate market share of battery swapping or fast-charging infrastructure. If fast charging technology continues to advance significantly, it will likely erode a key advantage of battery swapping: speed.</p><p><blockquote>尽管其电池更换战略高度差异化,并且似乎正在快速增长,但电池更换或快速充电基础设施的最终市场份额仍然没有定论。如果快速充电技术继续大幅进步,很可能会侵蚀电池更换的一个关键优势:速度。</blockquote></p><p> NIO's business model is innovative and new. Unfortunately, the flip side of that is that it is untested, and NIO remains unprofitable. For many investors, NIO will remain a \"show me\" story until the profitability of its business model improves.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来的商业模式具有创新性和新颖性。不幸的是,另一方面是它未经测试,蔚来仍然无利可图。对于许多投资者来说,在其商业模式的盈利能力提高之前,蔚来仍将是一个“给我看”的故事。</blockquote></p><p> NIO's ability to expand globally may be limited by the rising geopolitical tension between China and the US, and to a lesser extent, with Japan and Europe. The geopolitical situation remains highly opaque and uncertain, and is a risk factor for all auto OEMs.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来汽车的全球扩张能力可能会受到中美地缘政治紧张局势的限制,以及在较小程度上与日本和欧洲的地缘政治紧张局势的限制。地缘政治局势仍然高度不透明和不确定,是所有汽车原始设备制造商的风险因素。</blockquote></p><p> Auto OEMs are currently facing a severe chip shortage. In addition, the chip density in automobiles is increasing, making the OEMs increasingly reliant on semiconductor suppliers and foundries.</p><p><blockquote>汽车主机厂目前正面临着严重的芯片短缺。此外,汽车中的芯片密度不断增加,使得原始设备制造商越来越依赖半导体供应商和代工厂。</blockquote></p><p> NIO's competitive advantages may not overcome the massive scale advantage of ICE OEMs and much bigger EV players like Tesla and China's BYD.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来的竞争优势可能无法克服ICE原始设备制造商以及特斯拉和中国比亚迪等更大的电动汽车制造商的巨大规模优势。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Takeaway</b></p><p><blockquote><b>外卖</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO's technical and business model innovations make it a highly differentiated company in the exciting and rapidly growing EV market. The company is winning, and its competitive moat is getting bigger as its ecosystem of vehicles and services grows. Relative to the industry leader, Tesla, NIO's stock price seems like a bargain given its faster growth rate and lower multiples.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来的技术和商业模式创新使其在令人兴奋且快速增长的电动汽车市场中成为一家高度差异化的公司。该公司正在获胜,随着其汽车和服务生态系统的发展,其竞争护城河也在变得越来越大。相对于行业领导者特斯拉,鉴于蔚来汽车更快的增长率和较低的市盈率,其股价似乎很便宜。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4435341-nio-is-winning\">seekingalpha</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NIO":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4435341-nio-is-winning","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1148576248","content_text":"Summary\n\nNIO is #1 in China's electric SUV market for good reason.\nThe company's success is driven by its brilliant innovations and marketing strategy.\nNIO is growing faster than Tesla, and yet, it is trading at a discount.\n\nPonyWang/E+ via Getty Images\nNIO Inc. (NYSE:NIO) stands out for its strong market position- #1 market share in electric SUV in China- and innovation in the rapidly growing and highly competitive electric vehicle industry. This article will discuss why NIO is winning against some stiff competition, including against Tesla (TSLA).\nIn addition, we will discuss NIO's business, financials, trading, valuation, and risks so readers could reach their own informed decision.\nBusiness: Why NIO Wins\nNIO positions itself in the premium SUV segment, focusing on smart EVs with a differentiated battery strategy.\nDelivered in March 2019, the company's first model, the ES8, is a luxury 7-seater SUV that is still the company's flagship product today. The ES8 is equipped with ADAS and AI system [NOMI] and is comparable to the BYD Song, Tesla Model X, the Audi Q7 45 e-Tron, etc.\nSource: Company\nLeveraging the installed base and customer goodwill due to the highly successful ES8, NIO successfully launched the ES6 and EC6.Recently, the company launched the ET7, its first sedan.\nToday, NIO is the top-selling brand in China's all-electric SUV market in April with a 23% market share, higher than Tesla's 17%, WM Motor and XPeng Motors'(NYSE:XPEV)7%, according to China Automotive Technology and Research Center data.\nOne of the biggest competitive differentiators is NIO'sbattery strategy, which all but eliminates range anxiety, one of the biggest barriers to mass EV adoption. Not only could NIO cars be charged at any charging station for EVs, but the company also built hundreds of battery swapping stations in key cities in China, with plans to expanding to Europe.\nNIO's battery swapping strategy also gives the company the ability to offer a battery-as-a-service [BaaS] solution, which reduces the upfrontcostof purchasing an NIO vehicle by ~$11,000. Since cost is another major barrier to mass EV adoption, NIO's battery strategy appears brilliant as it solves both the range and cost problems.\nSource: Company\nAnother differentiator is the NIO brand, which management created brilliantly by introducing the EP9 in 2016. Six EP9s have been sold to NIO investors for 2.5 million pounds, creating an aura of exclusivity and quality around the brand. Next, NIO targeted the mass-market luxury SUV segment with the ES8, firmly establishing the company as a luxury car OEM.\nSource: Company\nChinese companies must struggle against the common perception that they make low-quality products. This is the same perception issue that Japanese companies faced following their defeat after WW2. Japan solved this problem by moving up the value chain as their economy matured and creating high-quality brands such as Sony(NYSE:SONY). Today, Japan is known for its craftsmanship.\nChina is following the same trajectory, and NIO is one of the emerging brands destroying the perception that \"made in China\" equates to poor quality. I strongly believe that investors who stubbornly hold on to that old perception will miss out on investing in some of the greatest brands the world will ever see.\nBuying an NIO car means much more than just getting a vehicle; it means getting into an exclusive club of services and convenience. Benefits include access to hundreds of swapping stations, lifetime free roadside rescue (including charge vans), lifetime free cellular connectivity, lifetime free warranty, and excellent customer service. This is a powerful selling point for NIO, differentiating it from Tesla, which hasrecentlydeveloped a poor reputation on the customer service front in China.\nSource: Company\nThe company is pushing the envelope even further with NIO House, a literal clubhouse for customers, and NIO Life, which includes NIO branded lifestyle products. NIO's effort to build a lifestyle around its cars seems to be working. This is good news for investors because the only way to escape the competitive battlefield of automobile OEM is to sell services and lifestyles to customers. This is why Ferrari's (RACE) operating margin is well over 20%, while Ford (F) and General Motors (GM) are in the single digits.\nFinancials & Valuation\nNIO is in hyper-growth mode. In 2020, the company generated $2.5 billion in revenue, up 126% y/y. In 2021, the company is expected to grow 117% y/y to $5.4 billion.\nThe company is not yet profitable but is expected to be by 2022. Gross margin only turned positive in 2020 and is expected to be 19.3% in 2021. EBITDA is expected to be negative $258 million in 2021 and a positive $206 million in 2022. Free cash flow is expected to be negative $42 million in 2021 before turning to a positive $354 million in 2022.\nHowever, despite the cash burn expected in 2021, investors should feel at ease since the company exited 2020 with $5.9 billion of cash and cash equivalents. Including $600 million in short-term investments and subtracting ~$2.1 billion in debt and operating leases and the expected negative free cash flow in 2021, NIO should exit 2021 with over $4 billion in net cash and investments. That is plenty of buffers since NIO is expected to generate positive free cash flow in 2022.\nSince NIO is not yet profitable, we will look at the forward EV/Sales multiple as is typical for hyper-growth companies not yet generating a profit. The company went public in September 2018, trading at around 7 to 8 times EV/Sales, before bottoming out at around 0.7 times sales in May 2019. The market, however, caught the EV fever in April 2020 and sent NIO's valuation soaring to a peak of 14.6x by January 2021. After the growth sell-off we recently experienced, NIO is currently sitting at a much more reasonable 8 times forward sales. This is a significant discount to TSLA's 10.2 times forward EV/Sales despite growing twice as fast (TSLA is expected to grow revenues by 57% in 2021 compared to NIO's 117%).\nRisks\nThere are many risks associated with owning NIO.\nAlthough its battery swapping strategy is highly differentiated and seems to be growing rapidly, the jury is still out on the ultimate market share of battery swapping or fast-charging infrastructure. If fast charging technology continues to advance significantly, it will likely erode a key advantage of battery swapping: speed.\nNIO's business model is innovative and new. Unfortunately, the flip side of that is that it is untested, and NIO remains unprofitable. For many investors, NIO will remain a \"show me\" story until the profitability of its business model improves.\nNIO's ability to expand globally may be limited by the rising geopolitical tension between China and the US, and to a lesser extent, with Japan and Europe. The geopolitical situation remains highly opaque and uncertain, and is a risk factor for all auto OEMs.\nAuto OEMs are currently facing a severe chip shortage. In addition, the chip density in automobiles is increasing, making the OEMs increasingly reliant on semiconductor suppliers and foundries.\nNIO's competitive advantages may not overcome the massive scale advantage of ICE OEMs and much bigger EV players like Tesla and China's BYD.\nTakeaway\nNIO's technical and business model innovations make it a highly differentiated company in the exciting and rapidly growing EV market. The company is winning, and its competitive moat is getting bigger as its ecosystem of vehicles and services grows. Relative to the industry leader, Tesla, NIO's stock price seems like a bargain given its faster growth rate and lower multiples.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"NIO":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3626,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"hots":[{"id":605202368,"gmtCreate":1639176190615,"gmtModify":1639176190722,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3585191808723701","authorIdStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"In a way ,it is a good problems. Shows that they have plenty of orders.","listText":"In a way ,it is a good problems. Shows that they have plenty of orders.","text":"In a way ,it is a good problems. Shows that they have plenty of orders.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/605202368","repostId":"1165282830","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1165282830","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1639148461,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1165282830?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-12-10 23:01","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla stops taking Model S and Model X orders outside North America<blockquote>特斯拉停止在北美以外地区接受 Model S 和 Model X 订单</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1165282830","media":"Electrek","summary":"Tesla announced to potential buyers today that it stopped taking new Model S and Model X orders outs","content":"<p>Tesla announced to potential buyers today that it stopped taking new Model S and Model X orders outside North America.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉今天向潜在买家宣布,已停止接受北美以外地区的新 Model S 和 Model X 订单。</blockquote></p><p> It now expects deliveries in other markets to start during the second half of 2022.</p><p><blockquote>目前预计其他市场将于 2022 年下半年开始交付。</blockquote></p><p> The news comes from an email that Tesla started sending out to people who have Model S and Model X vehicles on order in Europe.</p><p><blockquote>这一消息来自特斯拉开始向在欧洲订购 Model S 和 Model X 汽车的人发送的一封电子邮件。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla writes in the email that it is not accepting any new orders (translated from German):</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉在邮件中写道,它不接受任何新订单(从德语翻译而来):</blockquote></p><p> In order to expedite the delivery of existing orders, including your Model X order, as much as possible, we are currently no longer accepting new orders for the Model S and Model X from markets outside of North America. This is in response to Tesla likely having a large backlog of Model S/X orders in Europe and other markets, where there has been no new Model S/X shipment in a year.</p><p><blockquote>为了尽可能加快现有订单(包括您的Model X订单)的交付,我们目前不再接受来自北美以外市场的Model S和Model X的新订单。这是为了回应特斯拉在欧洲和其他市场可能有大量积压的Model S/X订单,这些市场已经一年没有新的Model S/X出货量了。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla shut down Model S and Model X production in January of last year to update the vehicles.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉于去年1月停止了Model S和Model X的生产,以更新车辆。</blockquote></p><p> During that year, the automaker kept taking new orders, but production was delayed with new Model S starting to slowly come off the assembly line in June and Model X in October.</p><p><blockquote>那一年,该汽车制造商不断接受新订单,但生产被推迟,新款 Model S 于 6 月开始慢慢下线,Model X 于 10 月开始慢慢下线。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla is still catching up to the backlog in North America while new orders kept coming in from Europe and Asia.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉仍在赶上北美的积压订单,而来自欧洲和亚洲的新订单则不断涌入。</blockquote></p><p> In the email, Tesla says that it now aims to deliver the first Model S and Model X in Europe during the second half of next year:</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉在电子邮件中表示,目前的目标是在明年下半年在欧洲交付首批 Model S 和 Model X:</blockquote></p><p> Your Model X is getting closer to delivery. We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022. This means that Europe would be without Model S and Model X for a year and a half.</p><p><blockquote>您的 Model X 即将交付。我们目前预计北美以外的发货将于 2022 年下半年开始。这意味着欧洲将有一年半的时间没有 Model S 和 Model X。</blockquote></p><p> Here’s the email in full:</p><p><blockquote>以下是电子邮件全文:</blockquote></p><p> Hello [redacted], We are contacting you regarding the timing of your Model X order. As we expand production capacity, the launch dates for markets outside of North America have been postponed. We will inform you of the delivery times through your Tesla account when production begins. Your Model X is getting closer to delivery. We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022. In order to expedite the delivery of existing orders, including your Model X order, as much as possible, we are currently no longer accepting new orders for the Model S and Model X from markets outside of North America. The price of your Model X will continue to be the same as it was when you placed your order, unless your vehicle configuration has been changed. To apply your order fee to another model, or to receive a full refund, request a call to speak directly to a Tesla representative. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Kind regards, Your Tesla Team Testa </p><p><blockquote>您好【编辑】,我们正在就您的Model X订单时间与您联系。随着我们扩大产能,北美以外市场的上市日期已被推迟。生产开始时,我们将通过您的特斯拉帐户通知您交货时间。您的 Model X 即将交付。我们目前预计北美以外的发货将于 2022 年下半年开始。为了尽可能加快现有订单(包括您的Model X订单)的交付,我们目前不再接受来自北美以外市场的Model S和Model X的新订单。除非您的车辆配置发生了变化,否则您的Model X的价格将继续与您下订单时相同。要将您的订单费用应用于其他型号,或获得全额退款,请要求看涨期权直接与特斯拉代表联系。对于由此造成的任何不便,我们深表歉意。亲切的问候,您的特斯拉团队测试</blockquote></p><p></p>","source":"lsy1627037122897","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla stops taking Model S and Model X orders outside North America<blockquote>特斯拉停止在北美以外地区接受 Model S 和 Model X 订单</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla stops taking Model S and Model X orders outside North America<blockquote>特斯拉停止在北美以外地区接受 Model S 和 Model X 订单</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">Electrek</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-12-10 23:01</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Tesla announced to potential buyers today that it stopped taking new Model S and Model X orders outside North America.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉今天向潜在买家宣布,已停止接受北美以外地区的新 Model S 和 Model X 订单。</blockquote></p><p> It now expects deliveries in other markets to start during the second half of 2022.</p><p><blockquote>目前预计其他市场将于 2022 年下半年开始交付。</blockquote></p><p> The news comes from an email that Tesla started sending out to people who have Model S and Model X vehicles on order in Europe.</p><p><blockquote>这一消息来自特斯拉开始向在欧洲订购 Model S 和 Model X 汽车的人发送的一封电子邮件。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla writes in the email that it is not accepting any new orders (translated from German):</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉在邮件中写道,它不接受任何新订单(从德语翻译而来):</blockquote></p><p> In order to expedite the delivery of existing orders, including your Model X order, as much as possible, we are currently no longer accepting new orders for the Model S and Model X from markets outside of North America. This is in response to Tesla likely having a large backlog of Model S/X orders in Europe and other markets, where there has been no new Model S/X shipment in a year.</p><p><blockquote>为了尽可能加快现有订单(包括您的Model X订单)的交付,我们目前不再接受来自北美以外市场的Model S和Model X的新订单。这是为了回应特斯拉在欧洲和其他市场可能有大量积压的Model S/X订单,这些市场已经一年没有新的Model S/X出货量了。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla shut down Model S and Model X production in January of last year to update the vehicles.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉于去年1月停止了Model S和Model X的生产,以更新车辆。</blockquote></p><p> During that year, the automaker kept taking new orders, but production was delayed with new Model S starting to slowly come off the assembly line in June and Model X in October.</p><p><blockquote>那一年,该汽车制造商不断接受新订单,但生产被推迟,新款 Model S 于 6 月开始慢慢下线,Model X 于 10 月开始慢慢下线。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla is still catching up to the backlog in North America while new orders kept coming in from Europe and Asia.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉仍在赶上北美的积压订单,而来自欧洲和亚洲的新订单则不断涌入。</blockquote></p><p> In the email, Tesla says that it now aims to deliver the first Model S and Model X in Europe during the second half of next year:</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉在电子邮件中表示,目前的目标是在明年下半年在欧洲交付首批 Model S 和 Model X:</blockquote></p><p> Your Model X is getting closer to delivery. We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022. This means that Europe would be without Model S and Model X for a year and a half.</p><p><blockquote>您的 Model X 即将交付。我们目前预计北美以外的发货将于 2022 年下半年开始。这意味着欧洲将有一年半的时间没有 Model S 和 Model X。</blockquote></p><p> Here’s the email in full:</p><p><blockquote>以下是电子邮件全文:</blockquote></p><p> Hello [redacted], We are contacting you regarding the timing of your Model X order. As we expand production capacity, the launch dates for markets outside of North America have been postponed. We will inform you of the delivery times through your Tesla account when production begins. Your Model X is getting closer to delivery. We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022. In order to expedite the delivery of existing orders, including your Model X order, as much as possible, we are currently no longer accepting new orders for the Model S and Model X from markets outside of North America. The price of your Model X will continue to be the same as it was when you placed your order, unless your vehicle configuration has been changed. To apply your order fee to another model, or to receive a full refund, request a call to speak directly to a Tesla representative. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Kind regards, Your Tesla Team Testa </p><p><blockquote>您好【编辑】,我们正在就您的Model X订单时间与您联系。随着我们扩大产能,北美以外市场的上市日期已被推迟。生产开始时,我们将通过您的特斯拉帐户通知您交货时间。您的 Model X 即将交付。我们目前预计北美以外的发货将于 2022 年下半年开始。为了尽可能加快现有订单(包括您的Model X订单)的交付,我们目前不再接受来自北美以外市场的Model S和Model X的新订单。除非您的车辆配置发生了变化,否则您的Model X的价格将继续与您下订单时相同。要将您的订单费用应用于其他型号,或获得全额退款,请要求看涨期权直接与特斯拉代表联系。对于由此造成的任何不便,我们深表歉意。亲切的问候,您的特斯拉团队测试</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://electrek.co/2021/12/10/tesla-stops-taking-model-s-x-orders-outside-north-america/\">Electrek</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://electrek.co/2021/12/10/tesla-stops-taking-model-s-x-orders-outside-north-america/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1165282830","content_text":"Tesla announced to potential buyers today that it stopped taking new Model S and Model X orders outside North America.\nIt now expects deliveries in other markets to start during the second half of 2022.\nThe news comes from an email that Tesla started sending out to people who have Model S and Model X vehicles on order in Europe.\nTesla writes in the email that it is not accepting any new orders (translated from German):\n\n In order to expedite the delivery of existing orders, including your Model X order, as much as possible, we are currently no longer accepting new orders for the Model S and Model X from markets outside of North America.\n\nThis is in response to Tesla likely having a large backlog of Model S/X orders in Europe and other markets, where there has been no new Model S/X shipment in a year.\nTesla shut down Model S and Model X production in January of last year to update the vehicles.\nDuring that year, the automaker kept taking new orders, but production was delayed with new Model S starting to slowly come off the assembly line in June and Model X in October.\nTesla is still catching up to the backlog in North America while new orders kept coming in from Europe and Asia.\nIn the email, Tesla says that it now aims to deliver the first Model S and Model X in Europe during the second half of next year:\n\n Your Model X is getting closer to delivery. We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022.\n\nThis means that Europe would be without Model S and Model X for a year and a half.\nHere’s the email in full:\n\n Hello [redacted],\n\n\n We are contacting you regarding the timing of your Model X order. As we expand production capacity, the launch dates for markets outside of North America have been postponed. We will inform you of the delivery times through your Tesla account when production begins.\n\n\n Your Model X is getting closer to delivery. We currently expect shipments outside of North America to begin in the second half of 2022.\n\n\n In order to expedite the delivery of existing orders, including your Model X order, as much as possible, we are currently no longer accepting new orders for the Model S and Model X from markets outside of North America.\n\n\n The price of your Model X will continue to be the same as it was when you placed your order, unless your vehicle configuration has been changed. To apply your order fee to another model, or to receive a full refund, request a call to speak directly to a Tesla representative.\n\n\n We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.\n\n\n Kind regards,\n\n\n Your Tesla Team Testa","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"TSLA":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3425,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":609693475,"gmtCreate":1638274892283,"gmtModify":1638274892283,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3585191808723701","authorIdStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"It's going to take some time before we know how bad it will be.","listText":"It's going to take some time before we know how bad it will be.","text":"It's going to take some time before we know how bad it will be.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/609693475","repostId":"1192203085","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1192203085","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1638273550,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1192203085?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-30 19:59","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Covid-19 Antibody Drugs Are Challenged by Omicron, Preliminary Testing Indicates<blockquote>初步测试表明,新冠肺炎抗体药物受到奥密克戎的挑战</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1192203085","media":"The Wall Street Journal","summary":"Regeneron said its antibody drug cocktail was found to lose effectiveness against the new variant\nA ","content":"<p>Regeneron said its antibody drug cocktail was found to lose effectiveness against the new variant</p><p><blockquote>再生元表示,其抗体药物鸡尾酒被发现对新变种失去效力</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ed6086131617e6933fe07f3e46cd5c26\" tg-width=\"1290\" tg-height=\"859\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>A monoclonal antibody treatment site in Pembroke Pines, Fla., earlier this year.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>今年早些时候,佛罗里达州彭布罗克派恩斯的一个单克隆抗体治疗点。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Preliminary tests indicate the Covid-19 antibody drug cocktail from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. loses effectiveness against Omicron, the company said Tuesday, a sign that some products in an important class of therapies might need modifying if the new strain becomes widespread.</p><p><blockquote>再生元制药公司周二表示,初步测试表明,该公司生产的 Covid-19 抗体药物鸡尾酒对奥密克戎病毒失去了效力,这表明如果新菌株广泛传播,一类重要疗法中的一些产品可能需要修改。</blockquote></p><p> Separate testing of another authorized Covid-19 antibody drug cocktail, from Eli Lilly& Co., indicates it also isn’t as effective against Omicron, outside scientists said. Lilly said it is testing the new variant against its antibody treatment and wouldn’t speculate on what the results will be.</p><p><blockquote>外部科学家说,对礼来公司(Eli Lilly&Co.礼来公司表示,它正在对这种新变种进行抗体治疗测试,不愿猜测结果会如何。</blockquote></p><p> The findings are the early results of researchers’ race to assess the impact of the new Omicron variant on Covid-19 treatments that patients, doctors and hospitals have been relying on, as well as pills in development that have promised to keep people out of the hospital.</p><p><blockquote>这些发现是研究人员竞赛的早期结果,旨在评估新的奥密克戎变种对病人、医生和医院一直依赖的 Covid-19 治疗方法的影响,以及正在开发的有望让人们远离医院的药丸。</blockquote></p><p> Researchers say some antibody therapies are likely to be especially vulnerable to Omicron because it contains mutations to the spike protein that the Regeneron and Lilly drugs target, while other drugs should hold up well because they attack elements of the virus unchanged in the variant.</p><p><blockquote>研究人员表示,一些抗体疗法可能特别容易受到奥密克戎病毒的影响,因为它包含再生元和礼来公司药物所针对的刺突蛋白的突变,而其他药物应该能很好地保持,因为它们攻击的是病毒变异体中不变的元素。</blockquote></p><p> Monoclonal antibodies are lab-made molecules derived from survivors of Covid-19 or mice engineered to have human immune systems. When given soon after infection, the drugs attach to the surface of the coronavirus and prevent it from replicating itself in new cells.</p><p><blockquote>单克隆抗体是实验室制造的分子,来源于新冠肺炎的幸存者或被改造成具有人类免疫系统的小鼠。当在感染后不久服用时,这些药物会附着在冠状病毒表面,并阻止其在新细胞中自我复制。</blockquote></p><p> They are the only drugs authorized to treat patients, before they require hospitalization, who are at high risk of developing severe cases.</p><p><blockquote>它们是唯一被授权用于治疗需要住院治疗的患者的药物,这些患者有发生严重病例的高风险。</blockquote></p><p> The drugs differ from vaccines, which train the immune system how to defend against the virus, including with the production of antibodies. Last year, former President Donald Trump credited Regeneron’s drug with his speedy recovery from Covid-19.</p><p><blockquote>这些药物不同于疫苗,疫苗训练免疫系统如何抵御病毒,包括产生抗体。去年,前总统唐纳德-特朗普(Donald Trump)将他从 Covid-19 中快速康复归功于再生元公司的药物。</blockquote></p><p> Regeneron said it would be able to quantify the impact of the variant in coming weeks, after further testing is done.</p><p><blockquote>再生元表示,在完成进一步测试后,它将能够在未来几周内量化该变种的影响。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6e7fac5c4630025e6c5ad28d2c3efbfa\" tg-width=\"1050\" tg-height=\"700\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Antiviral pills such as Pfizer’s Paxlovid appear to be unaffected by the variant.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>辉瑞公司的 Paxlovid 等抗病毒药物似乎不受该变种的影响。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> If final testing shows that its antibody drugs are less effective against Omicron, Regeneron has developed alternative antibodies that it can push into clinical testing and that it thinks will retain effectiveness against the variant, said George Yancopoulos, the company’s president and chief scientific officer.</p><p><blockquote>Regeneron 总裁兼首席科学官 George Yancopoulos 说,如果最终测试表明其抗体药物对奥密克戎病毒的疗效较差,那么 Regeneron 已经开发出了替代抗体,可以将其推入临床试验,并认为这些抗体将保持对该变异病毒的疗效。</blockquote></p><p> One of Regeneron’s alternative antibodies is already in clinical testing, which the company began in anticipation of new variants emerging over time.</p><p><blockquote>再生元公司的一种替代抗体已经在进行临床试验,该公司之所以开始临床试验,是因为预计随着时间的推移会出现新的变种。</blockquote></p><p> The Omicron variant was identified last week by scientists in South Africa, prompting drug researchers to scramble to see if the relatively small medicine chest of Covid-19 treatments would still work against the new strain if it ends up spreading widely.</p><p><blockquote>南非科学家上周发现了奥密克戎变种,这促使药物研究人员争先恐后地看看,如果这种新毒株最终广泛传播,相对较小的新冠肺炎治疗药物箱是否仍然可以对抗它。</blockquote></p><p> “What we have to admit is, in the course of the past six days, our urgency has increased,” Dr. Yancopoulos said in an interview. “What started out as a backup plan has now been made a lot more urgent.”</p><p><blockquote>“扬科普洛斯博士在接受采访时说:”我们不得不承认,在过去的六天里,我们的紧迫感增加了。“最初的后备计划现在变得更加紧迫”。</blockquote></p><p> Scientists at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle found that individual mutations from Omicron reduced or eliminated the ability of Regeneron’s and Lilly’s drugs to attach to the virus, said Allie Greaney, a Ph.D. candidate at the center and the University of Washington in Seattle.</p><p><blockquote>西雅图弗雷德-哈钦森癌症研究中心(Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center)和西雅图华盛顿大学(University of Washington in Seattle)的博士生艾莉-格里尼(Allie Greaney)说,该中心的科学家发现,奥密克戎病毒的个别突变会降低或消除再生元公司和礼来公司的药物附着在病毒上的能力。</blockquote></p><p> More comprehensive tests of the drugs against the entire variant are needed to fully understand the impact, she said. “I’m not certain what the exact magnitude of effect would be, but probably less effective,” said Ms. Greaney.</p><p><blockquote>她说,需要对这些药物针对整个变种进行更全面的测试,以充分了解其影响。“格里尼女士说:”我不确定这种影响的确切程度,但效果可能会较差。</blockquote></p><p> Lilly is in the process of testing the new variant against its drug, a combination of two antibodies called bamlanivimab and etesevimab,said Nicole Kallewaard, a Lilly virologist and research adviser.</p><p><blockquote>礼来公司病毒学家兼研究顾问妮可·卡勒瓦德 (Nicole Kallewaard) 表示,礼来公司正在测试针对其药物的新变种,该药物是两种抗体的组合,称为 bamlanivimab 和 etesevimab。</blockquote></p><p> She declined to comment on the results showing reduced effectiveness against individual Omicron mutations, because the results may differ when all of the mutations are combined.</p><p><blockquote>她拒绝对显示针对单个奥密克戎突变的有效性降低的结果发表评论,因为当所有突变组合时,结果可能会有所不同。</blockquote></p><p> “I think that we need to wait for confirmation of the whole virus,” said Dr. Kallewaard. “Hopefully, the data will come in the next few weeks.”</p><p><blockquote>“卡勒瓦德博士说:”我认为我们需要等待整个病毒的确认。“希望数据能在未来几周内公布”。</blockquote></p><p> A rise in the prevalence of Omicron could present an opportunity for competitors who say their drugs don’t appear in preliminary testing to be affected by the variant, including Vir Biotechnology Inc. and GlaxoSmithKline PLC, whose drug sotrovimab was authorized for emergency use earlier this year.</p><p><blockquote>奥密克戎病患病率的上升可能会为竞争对手提供一个机会,他们说自己的药物在初步测试中似乎没有受到这种变异的影响,其中包括 Vir Biotechnology Inc. 和葛兰素史克公司,后者的药物 sotrovimab 已于今年早些时候获准紧急使用。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> Fred Hutchinson researchers also said their initial testing indicated the Vir-GSK antibody drug retained its effectiveness.</p><p><blockquote>Fred Hutchinson研究人员还表示,他们的初步测试表明,Vir-GSK抗体药物保留了其有效性。</blockquote></p><p> Adagio Therapeutics Inc.,a biotech with a Covid-19 antibody drug in clinical trials, said its antibody also appears to be unaffected by the new variant.</p><p><blockquote>Adagio Therapeutics Inc. 是一家生物技术公司,其 Covid-19 抗体药物正在进行临床试验,该公司表示,其抗体似乎也不受新变种的影响。</blockquote></p><p> Vir, Glaxo and Adagio said they are conducting further tests to confirm that their drugs aren’t affected by Omicron.</p><p><blockquote>Vir、Glaxo 和 Adagio 表示,他们正在进行进一步的测试,以确认他们的药物不受奥密克戎病毒的影响。</blockquote></p><p> Omicron poses a threat to lab-made antibody drugs as well as antibodies generated by vaccines, because the new variant has mutations on the spike protein part of the virus where antibodies are known to frequently attach themselves, scientists say.</p><p><blockquote>科学家说,奥密克戎病毒对实验室制造的抗体药物以及疫苗产生的抗体构成威胁,因为这种新变种在病毒的刺突蛋白部分发生突变,已知抗体经常附着在刺突蛋白部分。</blockquote></p><p> Vir and Adagio officials said the companies designed their antibodies with the aim of targeting spots on the virus that are common across different coronaviruses that remained stable even after numerous mutations over many years.</p><p><blockquote>Vir 和 Adagio 的官员表示,这两家公司设计抗体的目的是针对不同冠状病毒中常见的病毒斑点,这些斑点即使经过多年的多次突变也保持稳定。</blockquote></p><p> “They bind to a region of the virus that through decades of evolution has not changed a lot,” Adagio Chief Executive Tillman Gerngross said in an interview. “Those conserved areas make the virus much more vulnerable” to antibodies.</p><p><blockquote>“Adagio 首席执行官蒂尔曼-格恩格罗斯(Tillman Gerngross)在接受采访时说:”它们与病毒中的一个区域结合在一起,这个区域经过几十年的演变并没有太大变化。“这些保守区域使病毒更容易受到抗体的攻击”。</blockquote></p><p> It will take at least two weeks to create a version of the full Omicron virus variant and test antibody drugs against it, company officials said. Still, scientists say they are concerned by what they know already about the variant’s ability to evade antibodies produced by vaccines, prior infection or from drug treatment.</p><p><blockquote>公司官员表示,创建完整的奥密克戎病毒变种版本并测试针对它的抗体药物至少需要两周时间。尽管如此,科学家们表示,他们对这种变异体逃避疫苗、既往感染或药物治疗产生的抗体的能力感到担忧。</blockquote></p><p> “Omicron hasn’t become the next Delta,” Vir Chief Scientific Officer Skip Virgin said in an interview. But “we think the extent of the mutations, the number of them, means that the world needs to take Omicron very seriously.”</p><p><blockquote>“Vir 首席科学官 Skip Virgin 在接受采访时说:”奥密克戎还没有成为下一个三角洲。但 “我们认为,突变的程度和数量意味着世界需要非常认真地对待奥密克戎”。</blockquote></p><p> Antiviral drugs, including pills from Merck& Co. and partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP and from Pfizer Inc. that are being evaluated for authorization,appear to be unaffected by the variant because they target a different site on the virus, said Michel Nussenzweig, an immunologist at Rockefeller University.</p><p><blockquote>米歇尔·努森茨威格 (Michel Nussenzweig) 表示,正在评估授权的抗病毒药物,包括默克公司 (Merck&Co.) 及其合作伙伴 Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP 和辉瑞公司 (Pfizer Inc.) 的药丸,似乎不受该变种的影响,因为它们针对的是病毒上的不同位点。洛克菲勒大学免疫学家。</blockquote></p><p> Doctors and patients have been looking forward to authorization of the pills, which in clinical trials have reduced the risk of hospitalization if taken early enough.</p><p><blockquote>医生和患者一直期待着这种药丸的授权,在临床试验中,如果服用得足够早,这种药丸可以降低住院的风险。</blockquote></p><p> “The targets of the pills appear to be under less pressure and may be OK, but this too needs to be tested,” said Dr. Nussenzweig.</p><p><blockquote>“Nussenzweig 博士说:”药丸的目标似乎压力较小,可能没问题,但这也需要进行测试。</blockquote></p><p> Pfizer and Merck said they expect their drugs to be effective against Omicron.</p><p><blockquote>辉瑞和默克表示,他们预计自己的药物能够有效对抗奥密克戎病。</blockquote></p><p> Gilead SciencesInc. also said it expects Veklury, its antiviral drug used to treat hospitalized patients, to retain effectiveness against Omicron as it has against other variants of concern.</p><p><blockquote>吉利德科学公司还表示,预计其用于治疗住院患者的抗病毒药物 Veklury 将保持对奥密克戎病毒的有效性,就像对其他令人担忧的变种一样。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Covid-19 Antibody Drugs Are Challenged by Omicron, Preliminary Testing Indicates<blockquote>初步测试表明,新冠肺炎抗体药物受到奥密克戎的挑战</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nCovid-19 Antibody Drugs Are Challenged by Omicron, Preliminary Testing Indicates<blockquote>初步测试表明,新冠肺炎抗体药物受到奥密克戎的挑战</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">The Wall Street Journal</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-11-30 19:59</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Regeneron said its antibody drug cocktail was found to lose effectiveness against the new variant</p><p><blockquote>再生元表示,其抗体药物鸡尾酒被发现对新变种失去效力</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ed6086131617e6933fe07f3e46cd5c26\" tg-width=\"1290\" tg-height=\"859\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>A monoclonal antibody treatment site in Pembroke Pines, Fla., earlier this year.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>今年早些时候,佛罗里达州彭布罗克派恩斯的一个单克隆抗体治疗点。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Preliminary tests indicate the Covid-19 antibody drug cocktail from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. loses effectiveness against Omicron, the company said Tuesday, a sign that some products in an important class of therapies might need modifying if the new strain becomes widespread.</p><p><blockquote>再生元制药公司周二表示,初步测试表明,该公司生产的 Covid-19 抗体药物鸡尾酒对奥密克戎病毒失去了效力,这表明如果新菌株广泛传播,一类重要疗法中的一些产品可能需要修改。</blockquote></p><p> Separate testing of another authorized Covid-19 antibody drug cocktail, from Eli Lilly& Co., indicates it also isn’t as effective against Omicron, outside scientists said. Lilly said it is testing the new variant against its antibody treatment and wouldn’t speculate on what the results will be.</p><p><blockquote>外部科学家说,对礼来公司(Eli Lilly&Co.礼来公司表示,它正在对这种新变种进行抗体治疗测试,不愿猜测结果会如何。</blockquote></p><p> The findings are the early results of researchers’ race to assess the impact of the new Omicron variant on Covid-19 treatments that patients, doctors and hospitals have been relying on, as well as pills in development that have promised to keep people out of the hospital.</p><p><blockquote>这些发现是研究人员竞赛的早期结果,旨在评估新的奥密克戎变种对病人、医生和医院一直依赖的 Covid-19 治疗方法的影响,以及正在开发的有望让人们远离医院的药丸。</blockquote></p><p> Researchers say some antibody therapies are likely to be especially vulnerable to Omicron because it contains mutations to the spike protein that the Regeneron and Lilly drugs target, while other drugs should hold up well because they attack elements of the virus unchanged in the variant.</p><p><blockquote>研究人员表示,一些抗体疗法可能特别容易受到奥密克戎病毒的影响,因为它包含再生元和礼来公司药物所针对的刺突蛋白的突变,而其他药物应该能很好地保持,因为它们攻击的是病毒变异体中不变的元素。</blockquote></p><p> Monoclonal antibodies are lab-made molecules derived from survivors of Covid-19 or mice engineered to have human immune systems. When given soon after infection, the drugs attach to the surface of the coronavirus and prevent it from replicating itself in new cells.</p><p><blockquote>单克隆抗体是实验室制造的分子,来源于新冠肺炎的幸存者或被改造成具有人类免疫系统的小鼠。当在感染后不久服用时,这些药物会附着在冠状病毒表面,并阻止其在新细胞中自我复制。</blockquote></p><p> They are the only drugs authorized to treat patients, before they require hospitalization, who are at high risk of developing severe cases.</p><p><blockquote>它们是唯一被授权用于治疗需要住院治疗的患者的药物,这些患者有发生严重病例的高风险。</blockquote></p><p> The drugs differ from vaccines, which train the immune system how to defend against the virus, including with the production of antibodies. Last year, former President Donald Trump credited Regeneron’s drug with his speedy recovery from Covid-19.</p><p><blockquote>这些药物不同于疫苗,疫苗训练免疫系统如何抵御病毒,包括产生抗体。去年,前总统唐纳德-特朗普(Donald Trump)将他从 Covid-19 中快速康复归功于再生元公司的药物。</blockquote></p><p> Regeneron said it would be able to quantify the impact of the variant in coming weeks, after further testing is done.</p><p><blockquote>再生元表示,在完成进一步测试后,它将能够在未来几周内量化该变种的影响。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6e7fac5c4630025e6c5ad28d2c3efbfa\" tg-width=\"1050\" tg-height=\"700\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Antiviral pills such as Pfizer’s Paxlovid appear to be unaffected by the variant.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>辉瑞公司的 Paxlovid 等抗病毒药物似乎不受该变种的影响。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> If final testing shows that its antibody drugs are less effective against Omicron, Regeneron has developed alternative antibodies that it can push into clinical testing and that it thinks will retain effectiveness against the variant, said George Yancopoulos, the company’s president and chief scientific officer.</p><p><blockquote>Regeneron 总裁兼首席科学官 George Yancopoulos 说,如果最终测试表明其抗体药物对奥密克戎病毒的疗效较差,那么 Regeneron 已经开发出了替代抗体,可以将其推入临床试验,并认为这些抗体将保持对该变异病毒的疗效。</blockquote></p><p> One of Regeneron’s alternative antibodies is already in clinical testing, which the company began in anticipation of new variants emerging over time.</p><p><blockquote>再生元公司的一种替代抗体已经在进行临床试验,该公司之所以开始临床试验,是因为预计随着时间的推移会出现新的变种。</blockquote></p><p> The Omicron variant was identified last week by scientists in South Africa, prompting drug researchers to scramble to see if the relatively small medicine chest of Covid-19 treatments would still work against the new strain if it ends up spreading widely.</p><p><blockquote>南非科学家上周发现了奥密克戎变种,这促使药物研究人员争先恐后地看看,如果这种新毒株最终广泛传播,相对较小的新冠肺炎治疗药物箱是否仍然可以对抗它。</blockquote></p><p> “What we have to admit is, in the course of the past six days, our urgency has increased,” Dr. Yancopoulos said in an interview. “What started out as a backup plan has now been made a lot more urgent.”</p><p><blockquote>“扬科普洛斯博士在接受采访时说:”我们不得不承认,在过去的六天里,我们的紧迫感增加了。“最初的后备计划现在变得更加紧迫”。</blockquote></p><p> Scientists at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle found that individual mutations from Omicron reduced or eliminated the ability of Regeneron’s and Lilly’s drugs to attach to the virus, said Allie Greaney, a Ph.D. candidate at the center and the University of Washington in Seattle.</p><p><blockquote>西雅图弗雷德-哈钦森癌症研究中心(Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center)和西雅图华盛顿大学(University of Washington in Seattle)的博士生艾莉-格里尼(Allie Greaney)说,该中心的科学家发现,奥密克戎病毒的个别突变会降低或消除再生元公司和礼来公司的药物附着在病毒上的能力。</blockquote></p><p> More comprehensive tests of the drugs against the entire variant are needed to fully understand the impact, she said. “I’m not certain what the exact magnitude of effect would be, but probably less effective,” said Ms. Greaney.</p><p><blockquote>她说,需要对这些药物针对整个变种进行更全面的测试,以充分了解其影响。“格里尼女士说:”我不确定这种影响的确切程度,但效果可能会较差。</blockquote></p><p> Lilly is in the process of testing the new variant against its drug, a combination of two antibodies called bamlanivimab and etesevimab,said Nicole Kallewaard, a Lilly virologist and research adviser.</p><p><blockquote>礼来公司病毒学家兼研究顾问妮可·卡勒瓦德 (Nicole Kallewaard) 表示,礼来公司正在测试针对其药物的新变种,该药物是两种抗体的组合,称为 bamlanivimab 和 etesevimab。</blockquote></p><p> She declined to comment on the results showing reduced effectiveness against individual Omicron mutations, because the results may differ when all of the mutations are combined.</p><p><blockquote>她拒绝对显示针对单个奥密克戎突变的有效性降低的结果发表评论,因为当所有突变组合时,结果可能会有所不同。</blockquote></p><p> “I think that we need to wait for confirmation of the whole virus,” said Dr. Kallewaard. “Hopefully, the data will come in the next few weeks.”</p><p><blockquote>“卡勒瓦德博士说:”我认为我们需要等待整个病毒的确认。“希望数据能在未来几周内公布”。</blockquote></p><p> A rise in the prevalence of Omicron could present an opportunity for competitors who say their drugs don’t appear in preliminary testing to be affected by the variant, including Vir Biotechnology Inc. and GlaxoSmithKline PLC, whose drug sotrovimab was authorized for emergency use earlier this year.</p><p><blockquote>奥密克戎病患病率的上升可能会为竞争对手提供一个机会,他们说自己的药物在初步测试中似乎没有受到这种变异的影响,其中包括 Vir Biotechnology Inc. 和葛兰素史克公司,后者的药物 sotrovimab 已于今年早些时候获准紧急使用。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> Fred Hutchinson researchers also said their initial testing indicated the Vir-GSK antibody drug retained its effectiveness.</p><p><blockquote>Fred Hutchinson研究人员还表示,他们的初步测试表明,Vir-GSK抗体药物保留了其有效性。</blockquote></p><p> Adagio Therapeutics Inc.,a biotech with a Covid-19 antibody drug in clinical trials, said its antibody also appears to be unaffected by the new variant.</p><p><blockquote>Adagio Therapeutics Inc. 是一家生物技术公司,其 Covid-19 抗体药物正在进行临床试验,该公司表示,其抗体似乎也不受新变种的影响。</blockquote></p><p> Vir, Glaxo and Adagio said they are conducting further tests to confirm that their drugs aren’t affected by Omicron.</p><p><blockquote>Vir、Glaxo 和 Adagio 表示,他们正在进行进一步的测试,以确认他们的药物不受奥密克戎病毒的影响。</blockquote></p><p> Omicron poses a threat to lab-made antibody drugs as well as antibodies generated by vaccines, because the new variant has mutations on the spike protein part of the virus where antibodies are known to frequently attach themselves, scientists say.</p><p><blockquote>科学家说,奥密克戎病毒对实验室制造的抗体药物以及疫苗产生的抗体构成威胁,因为这种新变种在病毒的刺突蛋白部分发生突变,已知抗体经常附着在刺突蛋白部分。</blockquote></p><p> Vir and Adagio officials said the companies designed their antibodies with the aim of targeting spots on the virus that are common across different coronaviruses that remained stable even after numerous mutations over many years.</p><p><blockquote>Vir 和 Adagio 的官员表示,这两家公司设计抗体的目的是针对不同冠状病毒中常见的病毒斑点,这些斑点即使经过多年的多次突变也保持稳定。</blockquote></p><p> “They bind to a region of the virus that through decades of evolution has not changed a lot,” Adagio Chief Executive Tillman Gerngross said in an interview. “Those conserved areas make the virus much more vulnerable” to antibodies.</p><p><blockquote>“Adagio 首席执行官蒂尔曼-格恩格罗斯(Tillman Gerngross)在接受采访时说:”它们与病毒中的一个区域结合在一起,这个区域经过几十年的演变并没有太大变化。“这些保守区域使病毒更容易受到抗体的攻击”。</blockquote></p><p> It will take at least two weeks to create a version of the full Omicron virus variant and test antibody drugs against it, company officials said. Still, scientists say they are concerned by what they know already about the variant’s ability to evade antibodies produced by vaccines, prior infection or from drug treatment.</p><p><blockquote>公司官员表示,创建完整的奥密克戎病毒变种版本并测试针对它的抗体药物至少需要两周时间。尽管如此,科学家们表示,他们对这种变异体逃避疫苗、既往感染或药物治疗产生的抗体的能力感到担忧。</blockquote></p><p> “Omicron hasn’t become the next Delta,” Vir Chief Scientific Officer Skip Virgin said in an interview. But “we think the extent of the mutations, the number of them, means that the world needs to take Omicron very seriously.”</p><p><blockquote>“Vir 首席科学官 Skip Virgin 在接受采访时说:”奥密克戎还没有成为下一个三角洲。但 “我们认为,突变的程度和数量意味着世界需要非常认真地对待奥密克戎”。</blockquote></p><p> Antiviral drugs, including pills from Merck& Co. and partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP and from Pfizer Inc. that are being evaluated for authorization,appear to be unaffected by the variant because they target a different site on the virus, said Michel Nussenzweig, an immunologist at Rockefeller University.</p><p><blockquote>米歇尔·努森茨威格 (Michel Nussenzweig) 表示,正在评估授权的抗病毒药物,包括默克公司 (Merck&Co.) 及其合作伙伴 Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP 和辉瑞公司 (Pfizer Inc.) 的药丸,似乎不受该变种的影响,因为它们针对的是病毒上的不同位点。洛克菲勒大学免疫学家。</blockquote></p><p> Doctors and patients have been looking forward to authorization of the pills, which in clinical trials have reduced the risk of hospitalization if taken early enough.</p><p><blockquote>医生和患者一直期待着这种药丸的授权,在临床试验中,如果服用得足够早,这种药丸可以降低住院的风险。</blockquote></p><p> “The targets of the pills appear to be under less pressure and may be OK, but this too needs to be tested,” said Dr. Nussenzweig.</p><p><blockquote>“Nussenzweig 博士说:”药丸的目标似乎压力较小,可能没问题,但这也需要进行测试。</blockquote></p><p> Pfizer and Merck said they expect their drugs to be effective against Omicron.</p><p><blockquote>辉瑞和默克表示,他们预计自己的药物能够有效对抗奥密克戎病。</blockquote></p><p> Gilead SciencesInc. also said it expects Veklury, its antiviral drug used to treat hospitalized patients, to retain effectiveness against Omicron as it has against other variants of concern.</p><p><blockquote>吉利德科学公司还表示,预计其用于治疗住院患者的抗病毒药物 Veklury 将保持对奥密克戎病毒的有效性,就像对其他令人担忧的变种一样。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-antibody-drugs-are-challenged-by-omicron-preliminary-testing-indicates-11638270003?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1\">The Wall Street Journal</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"LLY":"礼来","REGN":"再生元制药公司"},"source_url":"https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-antibody-drugs-are-challenged-by-omicron-preliminary-testing-indicates-11638270003?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1192203085","content_text":"Regeneron said its antibody drug cocktail was found to lose effectiveness against the new variant\nA monoclonal antibody treatment site in Pembroke Pines, Fla., earlier this year.\nPreliminary tests indicate the Covid-19 antibody drug cocktail from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. loses effectiveness against Omicron, the company said Tuesday, a sign that some products in an important class of therapies might need modifying if the new strain becomes widespread.\nSeparate testing of another authorized Covid-19 antibody drug cocktail, from Eli Lilly& Co., indicates it also isn’t as effective against Omicron, outside scientists said. Lilly said it is testing the new variant against its antibody treatment and wouldn’t speculate on what the results will be.\nThe findings are the early results of researchers’ race to assess the impact of the new Omicron variant on Covid-19 treatments that patients, doctors and hospitals have been relying on, as well as pills in development that have promised to keep people out of the hospital.\nResearchers say some antibody therapies are likely to be especially vulnerable to Omicron because it contains mutations to the spike protein that the Regeneron and Lilly drugs target, while other drugs should hold up well because they attack elements of the virus unchanged in the variant.\nMonoclonal antibodies are lab-made molecules derived from survivors of Covid-19 or mice engineered to have human immune systems. When given soon after infection, the drugs attach to the surface of the coronavirus and prevent it from replicating itself in new cells.\nThey are the only drugs authorized to treat patients, before they require hospitalization, who are at high risk of developing severe cases.\nThe drugs differ from vaccines, which train the immune system how to defend against the virus, including with the production of antibodies. Last year, former President Donald Trump credited Regeneron’s drug with his speedy recovery from Covid-19.\nRegeneron said it would be able to quantify the impact of the variant in coming weeks, after further testing is done.\nAntiviral pills such as Pfizer’s Paxlovid appear to be unaffected by the variant.\nIf final testing shows that its antibody drugs are less effective against Omicron, Regeneron has developed alternative antibodies that it can push into clinical testing and that it thinks will retain effectiveness against the variant, said George Yancopoulos, the company’s president and chief scientific officer.\nOne of Regeneron’s alternative antibodies is already in clinical testing, which the company began in anticipation of new variants emerging over time.\nThe Omicron variant was identified last week by scientists in South Africa, prompting drug researchers to scramble to see if the relatively small medicine chest of Covid-19 treatments would still work against the new strain if it ends up spreading widely.\n“What we have to admit is, in the course of the past six days, our urgency has increased,” Dr. Yancopoulos said in an interview. “What started out as a backup plan has now been made a lot more urgent.”\nScientists at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle found that individual mutations from Omicron reduced or eliminated the ability of Regeneron’s and Lilly’s drugs to attach to the virus, said Allie Greaney, a Ph.D. candidate at the center and the University of Washington in Seattle.\nMore comprehensive tests of the drugs against the entire variant are needed to fully understand the impact, she said. “I’m not certain what the exact magnitude of effect would be, but probably less effective,” said Ms. Greaney.\nLilly is in the process of testing the new variant against its drug, a combination of two antibodies called bamlanivimab and etesevimab,said Nicole Kallewaard, a Lilly virologist and research adviser.\nShe declined to comment on the results showing reduced effectiveness against individual Omicron mutations, because the results may differ when all of the mutations are combined.\n“I think that we need to wait for confirmation of the whole virus,” said Dr. Kallewaard. “Hopefully, the data will come in the next few weeks.”\nA rise in the prevalence of Omicron could present an opportunity for competitors who say their drugs don’t appear in preliminary testing to be affected by the variant, including Vir Biotechnology Inc. and GlaxoSmithKline PLC, whose drug sotrovimab was authorized for emergency use earlier this year.\nFred Hutchinson researchers also said their initial testing indicated the Vir-GSK antibody drug retained its effectiveness.\nAdagio Therapeutics Inc.,a biotech with a Covid-19 antibody drug in clinical trials, said its antibody also appears to be unaffected by the new variant.\nVir, Glaxo and Adagio said they are conducting further tests to confirm that their drugs aren’t affected by Omicron.\nOmicron poses a threat to lab-made antibody drugs as well as antibodies generated by vaccines, because the new variant has mutations on the spike protein part of the virus where antibodies are known to frequently attach themselves, scientists say.\nVir and Adagio officials said the companies designed their antibodies with the aim of targeting spots on the virus that are common across different coronaviruses that remained stable even after numerous mutations over many years.\n“They bind to a region of the virus that through decades of evolution has not changed a lot,” Adagio Chief Executive Tillman Gerngross said in an interview. “Those conserved areas make the virus much more vulnerable” to antibodies.\nIt will take at least two weeks to create a version of the full Omicron virus variant and test antibody drugs against it, company officials said. Still, scientists say they are concerned by what they know already about the variant’s ability to evade antibodies produced by vaccines, prior infection or from drug treatment.\n“Omicron hasn’t become the next Delta,” Vir Chief Scientific Officer Skip Virgin said in an interview. But “we think the extent of the mutations, the number of them, means that the world needs to take Omicron very seriously.”\nAntiviral drugs, including pills from Merck& Co. and partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP and from Pfizer Inc. that are being evaluated for authorization,appear to be unaffected by the variant because they target a different site on the virus, said Michel Nussenzweig, an immunologist at Rockefeller University.\nDoctors and patients have been looking forward to authorization of the pills, which in clinical trials have reduced the risk of hospitalization if taken early enough.\n“The targets of the pills appear to be under less pressure and may be OK, but this too needs to be tested,” said Dr. Nussenzweig.\nPfizer and Merck said they expect their drugs to be effective against Omicron.\nGilead SciencesInc. also said it expects Veklury, its antiviral drug used to treat hospitalized patients, to retain effectiveness against Omicron as it has against other variants of concern.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"LLY":0.9,"REGN":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3840,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":841625251,"gmtCreate":1635908578139,"gmtModify":1635908578139,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3585191808723701","authorIdStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"If you want to buy, just be patient.","listText":"If you want to buy, just be patient.","text":"If you want to buy, just be patient.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/841625251","repostId":"1119852155","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1119852155","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1635844360,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1119852155?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-02 17:12","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading<blockquote>特斯拉股价在盘前交易中下跌超过 6%</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1119852155","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading Tuesday after four consecutive days of gains.El","content":"<p>Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading Tuesday after four consecutive days of gains.Elon Musk said Tesla Inc. hasn’t yet signed a contract with Hertz Global Holdings Inc..In additionTesla rival Rivian seeks to raise $8.4 billion in IPO.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉股价在连续四天上涨后,周二盘前交易中下跌超过 6%。此外,特斯拉竞争对手Rivian寻求通过 IPO 筹集 84 亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8355cee0e2871b4c60c1b78ebd98a7fd\" tg-width=\"848\" tg-height=\"617\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> Musk was replying to a tweet from an account named Tesla Silicon Valley Club, which showed a chart ofTesla’s rising stock price along with a thank you to the company’s chief executive officer, the world’s richest person.</p><p><blockquote>马斯克是在回复一个名为特斯拉硅谷俱乐部的账户的一条推文,该账户显示了特斯拉股价上涨的图表,以及对该公司首席执行官、世界首富的感谢。</blockquote></p><p> News ofHertz’s order on Oct. 25, only around four months after the company emerged from bankruptcy, sent Tesla’s shares up 13% on the day and its market value past $1 trillion for the first time. The rally has continued, with the stock closing at a record high in New York Monday. Hertz, which trades over the counter ahead of a relisting on the Nasdaq Stock Market, has climbed 38% since the start of last week.</p><p><blockquote>10 月 25 日,也就是该公司摆脱破产仅四个月后,赫兹的命令就使特斯拉的股价当天上涨了 13%,市值首次突破 1 万亿美元。涨势仍在继续,该股周一在纽约收盘创下历史新高。赫兹在纳斯达克股市重新上市前进行场外交易,自上周初以来已上涨 38%。</blockquote></p><p> The order for 100,000 vehicles is equivalent to about a tenth of what Tesla can produce annually. Florida-based Hertz said it would be paying full price.</p><p><blockquote>10万辆的订单相当于特斯拉年产量的十分之一左右。总部位于佛罗里达州的赫兹表示将支付全价。</blockquote></p><p> “The initial interest is exceeding our expectations,” Hertz’s interim CEO Mark Fields said last week as traffic to the company’s website soared, especially for its Tesla rental portal. “It shows that our message got through.”</p><p><blockquote>“赫兹临时首席执行官马克-菲尔兹(Mark Fields)上周表示:”最初的兴趣超出了我们的预期。“这表明我们的信息得到了传达”。</blockquote></p><p> Hertz has hired seven-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback Tom Brady to star in advertisements showcasing the new Teslas.</p><p><blockquote>赫兹聘请了七次赢得超级碗的四分卫汤姆·布雷迪出演展示新款特斯拉的广告。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading<blockquote>特斯拉股价在盘前交易中下跌超过 6%</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading<blockquote>特斯拉股价在盘前交易中下跌超过 6%</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time smaller\">2021-11-02 17:12</p>\n</div>\n</a>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading Tuesday after four consecutive days of gains.Elon Musk said Tesla Inc. hasn’t yet signed a contract with Hertz Global Holdings Inc..In additionTesla rival Rivian seeks to raise $8.4 billion in IPO.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉股价在连续四天上涨后,周二盘前交易中下跌超过 6%。此外,特斯拉竞争对手Rivian寻求通过 IPO 筹集 84 亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8355cee0e2871b4c60c1b78ebd98a7fd\" tg-width=\"848\" tg-height=\"617\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> Musk was replying to a tweet from an account named Tesla Silicon Valley Club, which showed a chart ofTesla’s rising stock price along with a thank you to the company’s chief executive officer, the world’s richest person.</p><p><blockquote>马斯克是在回复一个名为特斯拉硅谷俱乐部的账户的一条推文,该账户显示了特斯拉股价上涨的图表,以及对该公司首席执行官、世界首富的感谢。</blockquote></p><p> News ofHertz’s order on Oct. 25, only around four months after the company emerged from bankruptcy, sent Tesla’s shares up 13% on the day and its market value past $1 trillion for the first time. The rally has continued, with the stock closing at a record high in New York Monday. Hertz, which trades over the counter ahead of a relisting on the Nasdaq Stock Market, has climbed 38% since the start of last week.</p><p><blockquote>10 月 25 日,也就是该公司摆脱破产仅四个月后,赫兹的命令就使特斯拉的股价当天上涨了 13%,市值首次突破 1 万亿美元。涨势仍在继续,该股周一在纽约收盘创下历史新高。赫兹在纳斯达克股市重新上市前进行场外交易,自上周初以来已上涨 38%。</blockquote></p><p> The order for 100,000 vehicles is equivalent to about a tenth of what Tesla can produce annually. Florida-based Hertz said it would be paying full price.</p><p><blockquote>10万辆的订单相当于特斯拉年产量的十分之一左右。总部位于佛罗里达州的赫兹表示将支付全价。</blockquote></p><p> “The initial interest is exceeding our expectations,” Hertz’s interim CEO Mark Fields said last week as traffic to the company’s website soared, especially for its Tesla rental portal. “It shows that our message got through.”</p><p><blockquote>“赫兹临时首席执行官马克-菲尔兹(Mark Fields)上周表示:”最初的兴趣超出了我们的预期。“这表明我们的信息得到了传达”。</blockquote></p><p> Hertz has hired seven-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback Tom Brady to star in advertisements showcasing the new Teslas.</p><p><blockquote>赫兹聘请了七次赢得超级碗的四分卫汤姆·布雷迪出演展示新款特斯拉的广告。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1119852155","content_text":"Tesla stock dipped more than 6% in premarket trading Tuesday after four consecutive days of gains.Elon Musk said Tesla Inc. hasn’t yet signed a contract with Hertz Global Holdings Inc..In additionTesla rival Rivian seeks to raise $8.4 billion in IPO.\n\nMusk was replying to a tweet from an account named Tesla Silicon Valley Club, which showed a chart ofTesla’s rising stock price along with a thank you to the company’s chief executive officer, the world’s richest person.\nNews ofHertz’s order on Oct. 25, only around four months after the company emerged from bankruptcy, sent Tesla’s shares up 13% on the day and its market value past $1 trillion for the first time. The rally has continued, with the stock closing at a record high in New York Monday. Hertz, which trades over the counter ahead of a relisting on the Nasdaq Stock Market, has climbed 38% since the start of last week.\nThe order for 100,000 vehicles is equivalent to about a tenth of what Tesla can produce annually. Florida-based Hertz said it would be paying full price.\n“The initial interest is exceeding our expectations,” Hertz’s interim CEO Mark Fields said last week as traffic to the company’s website soared, especially for its Tesla rental portal. “It shows that our message got through.”\nHertz has hired seven-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback Tom Brady to star in advertisements showcasing the new Teslas.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"TSLA":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3527,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":166247231,"gmtCreate":1624014610123,"gmtModify":1634024115628,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3585191808723701","authorIdStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"[强] ","listText":"[强] ","text":"[强]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/166247231","repostId":"1148576248","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1148576248","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1623979883,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1148576248?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-18 09:31","market":"us","language":"en","title":"NIO Is Winning<blockquote>蔚来赢了</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1148576248","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"NIO is #1 in China's electric SUV market for good reason.The company's success is driven by its brilliant innovations and marketing strategy.NIO is growing faster than Tesla, and yet, it is trading at a discount.NIO Inc. stands out for its strong market position- #1 market share in electric SUV in China- and innovation in the rapidly growing and highly competitive electric vehicle industry. This article will discuss why NIO is winning against some stiff competition, including against Tesla .In ","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>NIO is #1 in China's electric SUV market for good reason.</li> <li>The company's success is driven by its brilliant innovations and marketing strategy.</li> <li>NIO is growing faster than Tesla, and yet, it is trading at a discount.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/790fae23b830463fec748d2deb2ce336\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>PonyWang/E+ via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>蔚来在中国电动SUV市场排名第一是有充分理由的。</li><li>该公司的成功是由其出色的创新和营销策略推动的。</li><li>蔚来的增长速度比特斯拉快,然而,它的交易价格却打折了。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>PonyWang/E+ 来自 Getty Images</span></p></blockquote></p><p> NIO Inc. (NYSE:NIO) stands out for its strong market position- #1 market share in electric SUV in China- and innovation in the rapidly growing and highly competitive electric vehicle industry. This article will discuss why NIO is winning against some stiff competition, including against Tesla (TSLA).</p><p><blockquote>蔚来(纽约证券交易所股票代码:NIO)以其强大的市场地位——中国电动SUV市场份额第一——以及在快速增长且竞争激烈的电动汽车行业中的创新而脱颖而出。本文将讨论为什么蔚来能够战胜一些激烈的竞争,包括特斯拉(TSLA)。</blockquote></p><p> In addition, we will discuss NIO's business, financials, trading, valuation, and risks so readers could reach their own informed decision.</p><p><blockquote>此外,我们还将讨论蔚来汽车的业务、财务、交易、估值和风险,以便读者能够做出自己的明智决定。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Business: Why NIO Wins</b></p><p><blockquote><b>商业:蔚来为何获胜</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO positions itself in the premium SUV segment, focusing on smart EVs with a differentiated battery strategy.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来将自己定位在高端SUV细分市场,专注于具有差异化电池战略的智能电动汽车。</blockquote></p><p> Delivered in March 2019, the company's first model, the ES8, is a luxury 7-seater SUV that is still the company's flagship product today. The ES8 is equipped with ADAS and AI system [NOMI] and is comparable to the BYD Song, Tesla Model X, the Audi Q7 45 e-Tron, etc.</p><p><blockquote>该公司的首款车型ES8于2019年3月交付,是一款豪华7座SUV,至今仍是该公司的旗舰产品。ES8配备ADAS和AI系统【NOMI】,与比亚迪宋、特斯拉Model X、奥迪Q7 45 e-Tron等不相上下。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443e2773f70c00c6faac8ca063e978a5\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"387\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:公司</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Leveraging the installed base and customer goodwill due to the highly successful ES8, NIO successfully launched the ES6 and EC6.Recently, the company launched the ET7, its first sedan.</p><p><blockquote>凭借 ES8 的巨大成功所带来的安装基础和客户好感,蔚来成功推出了 ES6 和 EC6。最近,该公司推出了其首款轿车ET7。</blockquote></p><p> Today, NIO is the top-selling brand in China's all-electric SUV market in April with a 23% market share, higher than Tesla's 17%, WM Motor and XPeng Motors'(NYSE:XPEV)7%, according to China Automotive Technology and Research Center data.</p><p><blockquote>如今,蔚来是4月份中国全电动SUV市场最畅销的品牌,市场份额为23%,高于特斯拉的17%、威马汽车和小鹏汽车(纽约证券交易所股票代码:XPEV)的7%。中国汽车技术研究中心数据。</blockquote></p><p> One of the biggest competitive differentiators is NIO'sbattery strategy, which all but eliminates range anxiety, one of the biggest barriers to mass EV adoption. Not only could NIO cars be charged at any charging station for EVs, but the company also built hundreds of battery swapping stations in key cities in China, with plans to expanding to Europe.</p><p><blockquote>最大的竞争优势之一是蔚来的电池战略,它几乎消除了里程焦虑,这是大规模电动汽车采用的最大障碍之一。蔚来汽车不仅可以在任何电动汽车充电站充电,该公司还在国内主要城市建设了数百个换电站,并计划扩展到欧洲。</blockquote></p><p> NIO's battery swapping strategy also gives the company the ability to offer a battery-as-a-service [BaaS] solution, which reduces the upfrontcostof purchasing an NIO vehicle by ~$11,000. Since cost is another major barrier to mass EV adoption, NIO's battery strategy appears brilliant as it solves both the range and cost problems.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来的电池更换策略还使该公司能够提供电池即服务 [BaaS] 解决方案,从而将购买蔚来汽车的前期成本降低约 11,000 美元。由于成本是大规模电动汽车采用的另一个主要障碍,蔚来汽车的电池战略似乎非常出色,因为它解决了续航里程和成本问题。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5b25fbb85bffd39310cd27cbb2bde57a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"216\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:公司</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Another differentiator is the NIO brand, which management created brilliantly by introducing the EP9 in 2016. Six EP9s have been sold to NIO investors for 2.5 million pounds, creating an aura of exclusivity and quality around the brand. Next, NIO targeted the mass-market luxury SUV segment with the ES8, firmly establishing the company as a luxury car OEM.</p><p><blockquote>另一个差异化因素是蔚来品牌,管理层通过在2016年推出EP9出色地打造了这一品牌。六辆 EP9 已以 250 万英镑的价格出售给蔚来投资者,为该品牌营造了一种独特性和品质的氛围。接下来,蔚来通过ES8瞄准大众市场豪华SUV细分市场,牢牢确立了该公司作为豪华车OEM的地位。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ad41c960ce02f1e3f3e7575ac00beee0\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"350\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:公司</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Chinese companies must struggle against the common perception that they make low-quality products. This is the same perception issue that Japanese companies faced following their defeat after WW2. Japan solved this problem by moving up the value chain as their economy matured and creating high-quality brands such as Sony(NYSE:SONY). Today, Japan is known for its craftsmanship.</p><p><blockquote>中国企业必须与人们普遍认为它们生产低质量产品的看法作斗争。这与二战后日本企业战败后面临的认知问题相同。随着经济的成熟,日本通过向价值链上游移动并创建索尼(纽约证券交易所代码:SONY)等高质量品牌来解决这个问题。今天,日本以其工艺而闻名。</blockquote></p><p> China is following the same trajectory, and NIO is one of the emerging brands destroying the perception that \"made in China\" equates to poor quality. I strongly believe that investors who stubbornly hold on to that old perception will miss out on investing in some of the greatest brands the world will ever see.</p><p><blockquote>中国也在遵循同样的轨迹,蔚来是打破“中国制造”等同于低质量观念的新兴品牌之一。我坚信,顽固地坚持这种旧观念的投资者将会错过投资世界上有史以来最伟大的品牌的机会。</blockquote></p><p> Buying an NIO car means much more than just getting a vehicle; it means getting into an exclusive club of services and convenience. Benefits include access to hundreds of swapping stations, lifetime free roadside rescue (including charge vans), lifetime free cellular connectivity, lifetime free warranty, and excellent customer service. This is a powerful selling point for NIO, differentiating it from Tesla, which hasrecentlydeveloped a poor reputation on the customer service front in China.</p><p><blockquote>购买蔚来汽车不仅仅意味着得到一辆车;这意味着进入一个服务和便利的专属俱乐部。好处包括使用数百个交换站、终身免费路边救援(包括收费货车)、终身免费蜂窝连接、终身免费保修和卓越的客户服务。这是蔚来的一个强大卖点,使其有别于特斯拉,后者最近在中国大陆的客户服务方面声誉不佳。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a73482aa0431694b760ab5c2d0aa6f53\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"211\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:公司</span></p></blockquote></p><p></p><p> The company is pushing the envelope even further with NIO House, a literal clubhouse for customers, and NIO Life, which includes NIO branded lifestyle products. NIO's effort to build a lifestyle around its cars seems to be working. This is good news for investors because the only way to escape the competitive battlefield of automobile OEM is to sell services and lifestyles to customers. This is why Ferrari's (RACE) operating margin is well over 20%, while Ford (F) and General Motors (GM) are in the single digits.</p><p><blockquote>该公司正在通过蔚来之家(一个真正的顾客俱乐部会所)和蔚来人寿(包括蔚来品牌的生活方式产品)进一步突破界限。蔚来围绕汽车构建生活方式的努力似乎正在奏效。这对投资者来说是个好消息,因为要想逃离汽车代工厂的竞争战场,唯一的办法就是向客户推销服务和生活方式。这就是为什么法拉利(赛车)营业利润率远高于 20%,而福特 (F) 和通用汽车 (GM) 则为个位数。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Financials & Valuation</b></p><p><blockquote><b>财务与估值</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO is in hyper-growth mode. In 2020, the company generated $2.5 billion in revenue, up 126% y/y. In 2021, the company is expected to grow 117% y/y to $5.4 billion.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来正处于高速增长模式。2020年,该公司实现收入25亿美元,同比增长126%。2021年,该公司预计将同比增长117%,达到54亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> The company is not yet profitable but is expected to be by 2022. Gross margin only turned positive in 2020 and is expected to be 19.3% in 2021. EBITDA is expected to be negative $258 million in 2021 and a positive $206 million in 2022. Free cash flow is expected to be negative $42 million in 2021 before turning to a positive $354 million in 2022.</p><p><blockquote>该公司尚未盈利,但预计到2022年将实现盈利。毛利率仅在2020年转正,预计2021年为19.3%。预计 2021 年 EBITDA 为负 2.58 亿美元,2022 年为正 2.06 亿美元。自由现金流预计在2021年为负4200万美元,然后在2022年转为正3.54亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> However, despite the cash burn expected in 2021, investors should feel at ease since the company exited 2020 with $5.9 billion of cash and cash equivalents. Including $600 million in short-term investments and subtracting ~$2.1 billion in debt and operating leases and the expected negative free cash flow in 2021, NIO should exit 2021 with over $4 billion in net cash and investments. That is plenty of buffers since NIO is expected to generate positive free cash flow in 2022.</p><p><blockquote>然而,尽管预计 2021 年将出现现金消耗,但投资者应该感到安心,因为该公司在 2020 年退出时拥有 59 亿美元的现金和现金等价物。包括 6 亿美元的短期投资,减去约 21 亿美元的债务和经营租赁以及 2021 年预期的负自由现金流,蔚来在 2021 年退出时应该拥有超过 40 亿美元的净现金和投资。这是充足的缓冲,因为蔚来预计将在 2022 年产生正自由现金流。</blockquote></p><p> Since NIO is not yet profitable, we will look at the forward EV/Sales multiple as is typical for hyper-growth companies not yet generating a profit. The company went public in September 2018, trading at around 7 to 8 times EV/Sales, before bottoming out at around 0.7 times sales in May 2019. The market, however, caught the EV fever in April 2020 and sent NIO's valuation soaring to a peak of 14.6x by January 2021. After the growth sell-off we recently experienced, NIO is currently sitting at a much more reasonable 8 times forward sales. This is a significant discount to TSLA's 10.2 times forward EV/Sales despite growing twice as fast (TSLA is expected to grow revenues by 57% in 2021 compared to NIO's 117%).</p><p><blockquote>由于蔚来尚未盈利,我们将关注未来的电动汽车/销售倍数,这是尚未盈利的高速增长公司的典型情况。该公司于2018年9月上市,交易价格约为电动汽车/销售额的7至8倍,然后在2019年5月触底,约为销售额的0.7倍。然而,市场在2020年4月掀起了电动汽车热潮,蔚来汽车的估值在2021年1月飙升至14.6倍的峰值。在我们最近经历的增长抛售之后,蔚来目前的远期销售额要合理得多。尽管增长速度是 TSLA 10.2 倍,但这比 TSLA 10.2 倍的电动汽车/销量大幅折扣(TSLA 预计 2021 年收入将增长 57%,而蔚来汽车为 117%)。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Risks</b></p><p><blockquote><b>风险</b></blockquote></p><p> There are many risks associated with owning NIO.</p><p><blockquote>拥有蔚来存在许多风险。</blockquote></p><p> Although its battery swapping strategy is highly differentiated and seems to be growing rapidly, the jury is still out on the ultimate market share of battery swapping or fast-charging infrastructure. If fast charging technology continues to advance significantly, it will likely erode a key advantage of battery swapping: speed.</p><p><blockquote>尽管其电池更换战略高度差异化,并且似乎正在快速增长,但电池更换或快速充电基础设施的最终市场份额仍然没有定论。如果快速充电技术继续大幅进步,很可能会侵蚀电池更换的一个关键优势:速度。</blockquote></p><p> NIO's business model is innovative and new. Unfortunately, the flip side of that is that it is untested, and NIO remains unprofitable. For many investors, NIO will remain a \"show me\" story until the profitability of its business model improves.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来的商业模式具有创新性和新颖性。不幸的是,另一方面是它未经测试,蔚来仍然无利可图。对于许多投资者来说,在其商业模式的盈利能力提高之前,蔚来仍将是一个“给我看”的故事。</blockquote></p><p> NIO's ability to expand globally may be limited by the rising geopolitical tension between China and the US, and to a lesser extent, with Japan and Europe. The geopolitical situation remains highly opaque and uncertain, and is a risk factor for all auto OEMs.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来汽车的全球扩张能力可能会受到中美地缘政治紧张局势的限制,以及在较小程度上与日本和欧洲的地缘政治紧张局势的限制。地缘政治局势仍然高度不透明和不确定,是所有汽车原始设备制造商的风险因素。</blockquote></p><p> Auto OEMs are currently facing a severe chip shortage. In addition, the chip density in automobiles is increasing, making the OEMs increasingly reliant on semiconductor suppliers and foundries.</p><p><blockquote>汽车主机厂目前正面临着严重的芯片短缺。此外,汽车中的芯片密度不断增加,使得原始设备制造商越来越依赖半导体供应商和代工厂。</blockquote></p><p> NIO's competitive advantages may not overcome the massive scale advantage of ICE OEMs and much bigger EV players like Tesla and China's BYD.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来的竞争优势可能无法克服ICE原始设备制造商以及特斯拉和中国比亚迪等更大的电动汽车制造商的巨大规模优势。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Takeaway</b></p><p><blockquote><b>外卖</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO's technical and business model innovations make it a highly differentiated company in the exciting and rapidly growing EV market. The company is winning, and its competitive moat is getting bigger as its ecosystem of vehicles and services grows. Relative to the industry leader, Tesla, NIO's stock price seems like a bargain given its faster growth rate and lower multiples.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来的技术和商业模式创新使其在令人兴奋且快速增长的电动汽车市场中成为一家高度差异化的公司。该公司正在获胜,随着其汽车和服务生态系统的发展,其竞争护城河也在变得越来越大。相对于行业领导者特斯拉,鉴于蔚来汽车更快的增长率和较低的市盈率,其股价似乎很便宜。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>NIO Is Winning<blockquote>蔚来赢了</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nNIO Is Winning<blockquote>蔚来赢了</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">seekingalpha</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-06-18 09:31</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>NIO is #1 in China's electric SUV market for good reason.</li> <li>The company's success is driven by its brilliant innovations and marketing strategy.</li> <li>NIO is growing faster than Tesla, and yet, it is trading at a discount.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/790fae23b830463fec748d2deb2ce336\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>PonyWang/E+ via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>蔚来在中国电动SUV市场排名第一是有充分理由的。</li><li>该公司的成功是由其出色的创新和营销策略推动的。</li><li>蔚来的增长速度比特斯拉快,然而,它的交易价格却打折了。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>PonyWang/E+ 来自 Getty Images</span></p></blockquote></p><p> NIO Inc. (NYSE:NIO) stands out for its strong market position- #1 market share in electric SUV in China- and innovation in the rapidly growing and highly competitive electric vehicle industry. This article will discuss why NIO is winning against some stiff competition, including against Tesla (TSLA).</p><p><blockquote>蔚来(纽约证券交易所股票代码:NIO)以其强大的市场地位——中国电动SUV市场份额第一——以及在快速增长且竞争激烈的电动汽车行业中的创新而脱颖而出。本文将讨论为什么蔚来能够战胜一些激烈的竞争,包括特斯拉(TSLA)。</blockquote></p><p> In addition, we will discuss NIO's business, financials, trading, valuation, and risks so readers could reach their own informed decision.</p><p><blockquote>此外,我们还将讨论蔚来汽车的业务、财务、交易、估值和风险,以便读者能够做出自己的明智决定。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Business: Why NIO Wins</b></p><p><blockquote><b>商业:蔚来为何获胜</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO positions itself in the premium SUV segment, focusing on smart EVs with a differentiated battery strategy.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来将自己定位在高端SUV细分市场,专注于具有差异化电池战略的智能电动汽车。</blockquote></p><p> Delivered in March 2019, the company's first model, the ES8, is a luxury 7-seater SUV that is still the company's flagship product today. The ES8 is equipped with ADAS and AI system [NOMI] and is comparable to the BYD Song, Tesla Model X, the Audi Q7 45 e-Tron, etc.</p><p><blockquote>该公司的首款车型ES8于2019年3月交付,是一款豪华7座SUV,至今仍是该公司的旗舰产品。ES8配备ADAS和AI系统【NOMI】,与比亚迪宋、特斯拉Model X、奥迪Q7 45 e-Tron等不相上下。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443e2773f70c00c6faac8ca063e978a5\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"387\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:公司</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Leveraging the installed base and customer goodwill due to the highly successful ES8, NIO successfully launched the ES6 and EC6.Recently, the company launched the ET7, its first sedan.</p><p><blockquote>凭借 ES8 的巨大成功所带来的安装基础和客户好感,蔚来成功推出了 ES6 和 EC6。最近,该公司推出了其首款轿车ET7。</blockquote></p><p> Today, NIO is the top-selling brand in China's all-electric SUV market in April with a 23% market share, higher than Tesla's 17%, WM Motor and XPeng Motors'(NYSE:XPEV)7%, according to China Automotive Technology and Research Center data.</p><p><blockquote>如今,蔚来是4月份中国全电动SUV市场最畅销的品牌,市场份额为23%,高于特斯拉的17%、威马汽车和小鹏汽车(纽约证券交易所股票代码:XPEV)的7%。中国汽车技术研究中心数据。</blockquote></p><p> One of the biggest competitive differentiators is NIO'sbattery strategy, which all but eliminates range anxiety, one of the biggest barriers to mass EV adoption. Not only could NIO cars be charged at any charging station for EVs, but the company also built hundreds of battery swapping stations in key cities in China, with plans to expanding to Europe.</p><p><blockquote>最大的竞争优势之一是蔚来的电池战略,它几乎消除了里程焦虑,这是大规模电动汽车采用的最大障碍之一。蔚来汽车不仅可以在任何电动汽车充电站充电,该公司还在国内主要城市建设了数百个换电站,并计划扩展到欧洲。</blockquote></p><p> NIO's battery swapping strategy also gives the company the ability to offer a battery-as-a-service [BaaS] solution, which reduces the upfrontcostof purchasing an NIO vehicle by ~$11,000. Since cost is another major barrier to mass EV adoption, NIO's battery strategy appears brilliant as it solves both the range and cost problems.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来的电池更换策略还使该公司能够提供电池即服务 [BaaS] 解决方案,从而将购买蔚来汽车的前期成本降低约 11,000 美元。由于成本是大规模电动汽车采用的另一个主要障碍,蔚来汽车的电池战略似乎非常出色,因为它解决了续航里程和成本问题。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5b25fbb85bffd39310cd27cbb2bde57a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"216\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:公司</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Another differentiator is the NIO brand, which management created brilliantly by introducing the EP9 in 2016. Six EP9s have been sold to NIO investors for 2.5 million pounds, creating an aura of exclusivity and quality around the brand. Next, NIO targeted the mass-market luxury SUV segment with the ES8, firmly establishing the company as a luxury car OEM.</p><p><blockquote>另一个差异化因素是蔚来品牌,管理层通过在2016年推出EP9出色地打造了这一品牌。六辆 EP9 已以 250 万英镑的价格出售给蔚来投资者,为该品牌营造了一种独特性和品质的氛围。接下来,蔚来通过ES8瞄准大众市场豪华SUV细分市场,牢牢确立了该公司作为豪华车OEM的地位。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ad41c960ce02f1e3f3e7575ac00beee0\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"350\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:公司</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Chinese companies must struggle against the common perception that they make low-quality products. This is the same perception issue that Japanese companies faced following their defeat after WW2. Japan solved this problem by moving up the value chain as their economy matured and creating high-quality brands such as Sony(NYSE:SONY). Today, Japan is known for its craftsmanship.</p><p><blockquote>中国企业必须与人们普遍认为它们生产低质量产品的看法作斗争。这与二战后日本企业战败后面临的认知问题相同。随着经济的成熟,日本通过向价值链上游移动并创建索尼(纽约证券交易所代码:SONY)等高质量品牌来解决这个问题。今天,日本以其工艺而闻名。</blockquote></p><p> China is following the same trajectory, and NIO is one of the emerging brands destroying the perception that \"made in China\" equates to poor quality. I strongly believe that investors who stubbornly hold on to that old perception will miss out on investing in some of the greatest brands the world will ever see.</p><p><blockquote>中国也在遵循同样的轨迹,蔚来是打破“中国制造”等同于低质量观念的新兴品牌之一。我坚信,顽固地坚持这种旧观念的投资者将会错过投资世界上有史以来最伟大的品牌的机会。</blockquote></p><p> Buying an NIO car means much more than just getting a vehicle; it means getting into an exclusive club of services and convenience. Benefits include access to hundreds of swapping stations, lifetime free roadside rescue (including charge vans), lifetime free cellular connectivity, lifetime free warranty, and excellent customer service. This is a powerful selling point for NIO, differentiating it from Tesla, which hasrecentlydeveloped a poor reputation on the customer service front in China.</p><p><blockquote>购买蔚来汽车不仅仅意味着得到一辆车;这意味着进入一个服务和便利的专属俱乐部。好处包括使用数百个交换站、终身免费路边救援(包括收费货车)、终身免费蜂窝连接、终身免费保修和卓越的客户服务。这是蔚来的一个强大卖点,使其有别于特斯拉,后者最近在中国大陆的客户服务方面声誉不佳。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a73482aa0431694b760ab5c2d0aa6f53\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"211\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Company</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:公司</span></p></blockquote></p><p></p><p> The company is pushing the envelope even further with NIO House, a literal clubhouse for customers, and NIO Life, which includes NIO branded lifestyle products. NIO's effort to build a lifestyle around its cars seems to be working. This is good news for investors because the only way to escape the competitive battlefield of automobile OEM is to sell services and lifestyles to customers. This is why Ferrari's (RACE) operating margin is well over 20%, while Ford (F) and General Motors (GM) are in the single digits.</p><p><blockquote>该公司正在通过蔚来之家(一个真正的顾客俱乐部会所)和蔚来人寿(包括蔚来品牌的生活方式产品)进一步突破界限。蔚来围绕汽车构建生活方式的努力似乎正在奏效。这对投资者来说是个好消息,因为要想逃离汽车代工厂的竞争战场,唯一的办法就是向客户推销服务和生活方式。这就是为什么法拉利(赛车)营业利润率远高于 20%,而福特 (F) 和通用汽车 (GM) 则为个位数。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Financials & Valuation</b></p><p><blockquote><b>财务与估值</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO is in hyper-growth mode. In 2020, the company generated $2.5 billion in revenue, up 126% y/y. In 2021, the company is expected to grow 117% y/y to $5.4 billion.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来正处于高速增长模式。2020年,该公司实现收入25亿美元,同比增长126%。2021年,该公司预计将同比增长117%,达到54亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> The company is not yet profitable but is expected to be by 2022. Gross margin only turned positive in 2020 and is expected to be 19.3% in 2021. EBITDA is expected to be negative $258 million in 2021 and a positive $206 million in 2022. Free cash flow is expected to be negative $42 million in 2021 before turning to a positive $354 million in 2022.</p><p><blockquote>该公司尚未盈利,但预计到2022年将实现盈利。毛利率仅在2020年转正,预计2021年为19.3%。预计 2021 年 EBITDA 为负 2.58 亿美元,2022 年为正 2.06 亿美元。自由现金流预计在2021年为负4200万美元,然后在2022年转为正3.54亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> However, despite the cash burn expected in 2021, investors should feel at ease since the company exited 2020 with $5.9 billion of cash and cash equivalents. Including $600 million in short-term investments and subtracting ~$2.1 billion in debt and operating leases and the expected negative free cash flow in 2021, NIO should exit 2021 with over $4 billion in net cash and investments. That is plenty of buffers since NIO is expected to generate positive free cash flow in 2022.</p><p><blockquote>然而,尽管预计 2021 年将出现现金消耗,但投资者应该感到安心,因为该公司在 2020 年退出时拥有 59 亿美元的现金和现金等价物。包括 6 亿美元的短期投资,减去约 21 亿美元的债务和经营租赁以及 2021 年预期的负自由现金流,蔚来在 2021 年退出时应该拥有超过 40 亿美元的净现金和投资。这是充足的缓冲,因为蔚来预计将在 2022 年产生正自由现金流。</blockquote></p><p> Since NIO is not yet profitable, we will look at the forward EV/Sales multiple as is typical for hyper-growth companies not yet generating a profit. The company went public in September 2018, trading at around 7 to 8 times EV/Sales, before bottoming out at around 0.7 times sales in May 2019. The market, however, caught the EV fever in April 2020 and sent NIO's valuation soaring to a peak of 14.6x by January 2021. After the growth sell-off we recently experienced, NIO is currently sitting at a much more reasonable 8 times forward sales. This is a significant discount to TSLA's 10.2 times forward EV/Sales despite growing twice as fast (TSLA is expected to grow revenues by 57% in 2021 compared to NIO's 117%).</p><p><blockquote>由于蔚来尚未盈利,我们将关注未来的电动汽车/销售倍数,这是尚未盈利的高速增长公司的典型情况。该公司于2018年9月上市,交易价格约为电动汽车/销售额的7至8倍,然后在2019年5月触底,约为销售额的0.7倍。然而,市场在2020年4月掀起了电动汽车热潮,蔚来汽车的估值在2021年1月飙升至14.6倍的峰值。在我们最近经历的增长抛售之后,蔚来目前的远期销售额要合理得多。尽管增长速度是 TSLA 10.2 倍,但这比 TSLA 10.2 倍的电动汽车/销量大幅折扣(TSLA 预计 2021 年收入将增长 57%,而蔚来汽车为 117%)。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Risks</b></p><p><blockquote><b>风险</b></blockquote></p><p> There are many risks associated with owning NIO.</p><p><blockquote>拥有蔚来存在许多风险。</blockquote></p><p> Although its battery swapping strategy is highly differentiated and seems to be growing rapidly, the jury is still out on the ultimate market share of battery swapping or fast-charging infrastructure. If fast charging technology continues to advance significantly, it will likely erode a key advantage of battery swapping: speed.</p><p><blockquote>尽管其电池更换战略高度差异化,并且似乎正在快速增长,但电池更换或快速充电基础设施的最终市场份额仍然没有定论。如果快速充电技术继续大幅进步,很可能会侵蚀电池更换的一个关键优势:速度。</blockquote></p><p> NIO's business model is innovative and new. Unfortunately, the flip side of that is that it is untested, and NIO remains unprofitable. For many investors, NIO will remain a \"show me\" story until the profitability of its business model improves.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来的商业模式具有创新性和新颖性。不幸的是,另一方面是它未经测试,蔚来仍然无利可图。对于许多投资者来说,在其商业模式的盈利能力提高之前,蔚来仍将是一个“给我看”的故事。</blockquote></p><p> NIO's ability to expand globally may be limited by the rising geopolitical tension between China and the US, and to a lesser extent, with Japan and Europe. The geopolitical situation remains highly opaque and uncertain, and is a risk factor for all auto OEMs.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来汽车的全球扩张能力可能会受到中美地缘政治紧张局势的限制,以及在较小程度上与日本和欧洲的地缘政治紧张局势的限制。地缘政治局势仍然高度不透明和不确定,是所有汽车原始设备制造商的风险因素。</blockquote></p><p> Auto OEMs are currently facing a severe chip shortage. In addition, the chip density in automobiles is increasing, making the OEMs increasingly reliant on semiconductor suppliers and foundries.</p><p><blockquote>汽车主机厂目前正面临着严重的芯片短缺。此外,汽车中的芯片密度不断增加,使得原始设备制造商越来越依赖半导体供应商和代工厂。</blockquote></p><p> NIO's competitive advantages may not overcome the massive scale advantage of ICE OEMs and much bigger EV players like Tesla and China's BYD.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来的竞争优势可能无法克服ICE原始设备制造商以及特斯拉和中国比亚迪等更大的电动汽车制造商的巨大规模优势。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Takeaway</b></p><p><blockquote><b>外卖</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO's technical and business model innovations make it a highly differentiated company in the exciting and rapidly growing EV market. The company is winning, and its competitive moat is getting bigger as its ecosystem of vehicles and services grows. Relative to the industry leader, Tesla, NIO's stock price seems like a bargain given its faster growth rate and lower multiples.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来的技术和商业模式创新使其在令人兴奋且快速增长的电动汽车市场中成为一家高度差异化的公司。该公司正在获胜,随着其汽车和服务生态系统的发展,其竞争护城河也在变得越来越大。相对于行业领导者特斯拉,鉴于蔚来汽车更快的增长率和较低的市盈率,其股价似乎很便宜。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4435341-nio-is-winning\">seekingalpha</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NIO":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4435341-nio-is-winning","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1148576248","content_text":"Summary\n\nNIO is #1 in China's electric SUV market for good reason.\nThe company's success is driven by its brilliant innovations and marketing strategy.\nNIO is growing faster than Tesla, and yet, it is trading at a discount.\n\nPonyWang/E+ via Getty Images\nNIO Inc. (NYSE:NIO) stands out for its strong market position- #1 market share in electric SUV in China- and innovation in the rapidly growing and highly competitive electric vehicle industry. This article will discuss why NIO is winning against some stiff competition, including against Tesla (TSLA).\nIn addition, we will discuss NIO's business, financials, trading, valuation, and risks so readers could reach their own informed decision.\nBusiness: Why NIO Wins\nNIO positions itself in the premium SUV segment, focusing on smart EVs with a differentiated battery strategy.\nDelivered in March 2019, the company's first model, the ES8, is a luxury 7-seater SUV that is still the company's flagship product today. The ES8 is equipped with ADAS and AI system [NOMI] and is comparable to the BYD Song, Tesla Model X, the Audi Q7 45 e-Tron, etc.\nSource: Company\nLeveraging the installed base and customer goodwill due to the highly successful ES8, NIO successfully launched the ES6 and EC6.Recently, the company launched the ET7, its first sedan.\nToday, NIO is the top-selling brand in China's all-electric SUV market in April with a 23% market share, higher than Tesla's 17%, WM Motor and XPeng Motors'(NYSE:XPEV)7%, according to China Automotive Technology and Research Center data.\nOne of the biggest competitive differentiators is NIO'sbattery strategy, which all but eliminates range anxiety, one of the biggest barriers to mass EV adoption. Not only could NIO cars be charged at any charging station for EVs, but the company also built hundreds of battery swapping stations in key cities in China, with plans to expanding to Europe.\nNIO's battery swapping strategy also gives the company the ability to offer a battery-as-a-service [BaaS] solution, which reduces the upfrontcostof purchasing an NIO vehicle by ~$11,000. Since cost is another major barrier to mass EV adoption, NIO's battery strategy appears brilliant as it solves both the range and cost problems.\nSource: Company\nAnother differentiator is the NIO brand, which management created brilliantly by introducing the EP9 in 2016. Six EP9s have been sold to NIO investors for 2.5 million pounds, creating an aura of exclusivity and quality around the brand. Next, NIO targeted the mass-market luxury SUV segment with the ES8, firmly establishing the company as a luxury car OEM.\nSource: Company\nChinese companies must struggle against the common perception that they make low-quality products. This is the same perception issue that Japanese companies faced following their defeat after WW2. Japan solved this problem by moving up the value chain as their economy matured and creating high-quality brands such as Sony(NYSE:SONY). Today, Japan is known for its craftsmanship.\nChina is following the same trajectory, and NIO is one of the emerging brands destroying the perception that \"made in China\" equates to poor quality. I strongly believe that investors who stubbornly hold on to that old perception will miss out on investing in some of the greatest brands the world will ever see.\nBuying an NIO car means much more than just getting a vehicle; it means getting into an exclusive club of services and convenience. Benefits include access to hundreds of swapping stations, lifetime free roadside rescue (including charge vans), lifetime free cellular connectivity, lifetime free warranty, and excellent customer service. This is a powerful selling point for NIO, differentiating it from Tesla, which hasrecentlydeveloped a poor reputation on the customer service front in China.\nSource: Company\nThe company is pushing the envelope even further with NIO House, a literal clubhouse for customers, and NIO Life, which includes NIO branded lifestyle products. NIO's effort to build a lifestyle around its cars seems to be working. This is good news for investors because the only way to escape the competitive battlefield of automobile OEM is to sell services and lifestyles to customers. This is why Ferrari's (RACE) operating margin is well over 20%, while Ford (F) and General Motors (GM) are in the single digits.\nFinancials & Valuation\nNIO is in hyper-growth mode. In 2020, the company generated $2.5 billion in revenue, up 126% y/y. In 2021, the company is expected to grow 117% y/y to $5.4 billion.\nThe company is not yet profitable but is expected to be by 2022. Gross margin only turned positive in 2020 and is expected to be 19.3% in 2021. EBITDA is expected to be negative $258 million in 2021 and a positive $206 million in 2022. Free cash flow is expected to be negative $42 million in 2021 before turning to a positive $354 million in 2022.\nHowever, despite the cash burn expected in 2021, investors should feel at ease since the company exited 2020 with $5.9 billion of cash and cash equivalents. Including $600 million in short-term investments and subtracting ~$2.1 billion in debt and operating leases and the expected negative free cash flow in 2021, NIO should exit 2021 with over $4 billion in net cash and investments. That is plenty of buffers since NIO is expected to generate positive free cash flow in 2022.\nSince NIO is not yet profitable, we will look at the forward EV/Sales multiple as is typical for hyper-growth companies not yet generating a profit. The company went public in September 2018, trading at around 7 to 8 times EV/Sales, before bottoming out at around 0.7 times sales in May 2019. The market, however, caught the EV fever in April 2020 and sent NIO's valuation soaring to a peak of 14.6x by January 2021. After the growth sell-off we recently experienced, NIO is currently sitting at a much more reasonable 8 times forward sales. This is a significant discount to TSLA's 10.2 times forward EV/Sales despite growing twice as fast (TSLA is expected to grow revenues by 57% in 2021 compared to NIO's 117%).\nRisks\nThere are many risks associated with owning NIO.\nAlthough its battery swapping strategy is highly differentiated and seems to be growing rapidly, the jury is still out on the ultimate market share of battery swapping or fast-charging infrastructure. If fast charging technology continues to advance significantly, it will likely erode a key advantage of battery swapping: speed.\nNIO's business model is innovative and new. Unfortunately, the flip side of that is that it is untested, and NIO remains unprofitable. For many investors, NIO will remain a \"show me\" story until the profitability of its business model improves.\nNIO's ability to expand globally may be limited by the rising geopolitical tension between China and the US, and to a lesser extent, with Japan and Europe. The geopolitical situation remains highly opaque and uncertain, and is a risk factor for all auto OEMs.\nAuto OEMs are currently facing a severe chip shortage. In addition, the chip density in automobiles is increasing, making the OEMs increasingly reliant on semiconductor suppliers and foundries.\nNIO's competitive advantages may not overcome the massive scale advantage of ICE OEMs and much bigger EV players like Tesla and China's BYD.\nTakeaway\nNIO's technical and business model innovations make it a highly differentiated company in the exciting and rapidly growing EV market. The company is winning, and its competitive moat is getting bigger as its ecosystem of vehicles and services grows. Relative to the industry leader, Tesla, NIO's stock price seems like a bargain given its faster growth rate and lower multiples.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"NIO":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3626,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":691029041,"gmtCreate":1640099629728,"gmtModify":1640099629728,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3585191808723701","authorIdStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"If you want to buy this stock, you need to have nerves of steel.and be very patient.","listText":"If you want to buy this stock, you need to have nerves of steel.and be very patient.","text":"If you want to buy this stock, you need to have nerves of steel.and be very patient.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/691029041","repostId":"1117226796","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1117226796","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1640057164,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1117226796?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-12-21 11:26","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: 3 Reasons Against It And Why It's Still A Buy<blockquote>Palantir:反对它的 3 个理由以及为什么它仍然值得购买</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1117226796","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Summary\n\nPalantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good ","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>Palantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.</li> <li>PLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.</li> <li>Despite some interest rate headwinds, PLTR seems like a good investment to me, thanks to a strong moat and great growth outlook.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7230cdd890b86f9941b99b1503d04049\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1044\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>spxChrome/E+ via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>Palantir Technologies 是一只战场股票。对于多头来说,听取空头的论点是个好主意。</li><li>PLTR稀释了其股东,但这不一定是一个大问题。</li><li>尽管存在一些利率阻力,但由于强大的护城河和良好的增长前景,PLTR 对我来说似乎是一项不错的投资。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>spxChrome/E+ 来自盖蒂图片社</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Article Thesis</b></p><p><blockquote><b>文章论文</b></blockquote></p><p> Palantir Technologies (PLTR) is an embattled growth stock, and in recent weeks, bears have been winning as shares continued to decline. There are, indeed some important bear arguments, such as dilution, reliance on government contracts, and rising interest rates. I do, however, still believe that Palantir Technologies is an attractive long-term investment, due to the act that its technology could lead to massive growth for many years to come.</p><p><blockquote>Palantir Technologies (PLTR) 是一只陷入困境的成长型股票,最近几周,随着股价持续下跌,空头一直在获胜。确实有一些重要的看跌论点,例如稀释、对政府合同的依赖以及利率上升。然而,我仍然相信 Palantir Technologies 是一项有吸引力的长期投资,因为其技术可能会在未来许多年内带来巨大的增长。</blockquote></p><p> <b>3 Issues Brought Up By Bears</b></p><p><blockquote><b>空头提出的3个问题</b></blockquote></p><p> Palantir is a growth stock that brings out highly convinced bulls as well as highly convinced bears. Generally, I am in the bullish camp here, but taking a look at the bear arguments can be a good idea as well. Three of the most common arguments against Palantir are the following ones:</p><p><blockquote>Palantir 是一只成长型股票,既有高度确信的多头,也有高度确信的空头。总的来说,我在这里是看涨的阵营,但看看空头的论点也是一个好主意。反对Palantir的三个最常见的论点如下:</blockquote></p><p> <b>1. Shareholder Dilution</b></p><p><blockquote><b>1.股东摊薄</b></blockquote></p><p> Growth on a company-wide basis is important, but growth on a per-share basis is even more important. There are many examples that show that changes in a company's share count can create or destroy a lot of shareholder value. Apple (AAPL), for example, has seen its net income grow by roughly 190% over the last decade:</p><p><blockquote>全公司范围的增长很重要,但每股增长更重要。有许多例子表明,公司股票数量的变化可以创造或摧毁很多股东价值。例如,苹果 (AAPL) 的净利润在过去十年中增长了约 190%:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2b5263c8346cfbbb898f1d1ac9a5bead\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Thanks to a declining share count, its earnings per share rose by a much more attractive 350%, however -- buybacks created a lot of shareholder value. There are also examples where a rising share count destroyed a lot of shareholder value, e.g. at Citigroup (C):</p><p><blockquote>然而,由于股票数量减少,其每股收益增长了 350%,更具吸引力,但回购创造了大量股东价值。也有一些例子表明,股票数量的增加摧毁了很多股东的价值,例如花旗集团 (C):</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fc39008812f5e2d0082dedc95b025c68\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Massive share issuance during the Great Recession has resulted in a 75% earnings per share decline since 2007, even though net profits were up over the same time frame. Looking at the changes in a company's share count thus makes sense, as those changes can have a large impact in the long run. At Palantir, we see that the share count has been rising considerably since the company went public. During the most recent quarter, Palantir's share count looked like this:</p><p><blockquote>大衰退期间的大规模股票发行导致自 2007 年以来每股收益下降了 75%,尽管同期净利润有所增长。因此,查看公司股票数量的变化是有意义的,因为这些变化从长远来看会产生很大的影响。在 Palantir,我们看到自公司上市以来,股票数量一直在大幅增加。在最近一个季度,Palantir 的股票数量如下:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/917ca4d7a390ced61d7c92d528f84fc1\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"539\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Palantir Press Release</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:Palantir 新闻稿</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Compared to the second quarter, Palantir's average share count was 1.895 billion, which makes for a 3.5% quarterly increase, which pencils out to an annual growth rate in the mid-teens. That is, of course, not negligible at all, and bears to have an argument when they state that shareholders get diluted at a meaningful pace. On the other hand, Palantir's business growth rate is way higher than 3% per quarter, as the company has guided for ~40% revenue growth this year, and since Palantir should also deliver outsized business growth in the coming years. Even if Palantir's share count were to climb by 10%-15% a year going forward, revenue per share would still climb by 25%+ a year thanks to the fact that PLTR is growing rapidly. I also believe that dilution will, over the years, decline. Not only has this been the case at many other growth companies, e.g. Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG), or Meta (FB), but it is also logical from an option rewards perspective. Option rewards are especially generous when a company is not yet publicly traded and when its future is still more uncertain, but as a company matures, employees get more comfortable as risks for the company decline, and they do not demand large option packages any longer. Last but not least, Palantir also generates strong free cash flows that should allow the company to do share buybacks in the future, which should help improve the dilution rate as well.</p><p><blockquote>与第二季度相比,Palantir 的平均股数为 18.95 亿股,季度增长 3.5%,年增长率约为十几岁左右。当然,这一点根本不容忽视,当他们声称股东正在以有意义的速度被稀释时,值得争论。另一方面,Palantir 的业务增长率远高于每季度 3%,因为该公司预计今年的收入增长约为 40%,而且 Palantir 在未来几年也应该实现巨大的业务增长。即使Palantir的股票数量未来每年增长10%-15%,由于PLTR的快速增长,每股收入仍将每年增长25%以上。我还相信,随着时间的推移,稀释程度将会下降。不仅亚马逊(AMZN)、Alphabet(GOOG)或Meta(FB)等许多其他成长型公司都是如此,而且从期权奖励的角度来看,这也是合乎逻辑的。当一家公司尚未公开交易且其未来仍然更加不确定时,期权奖励尤其丰厚,但随着公司的成熟,随着公司风险的降低,员工会更加放心,他们不再需要大量的期权包。最后但并非最不重要的一点是,Palantir 还产生了强劲的自由现金流,这将使公司能够在未来进行股票回购,这也将有助于提高稀释率。</blockquote></p><p> <b>2. Reliance on government contracts</b></p><p><blockquote><b>2. 依赖政府合同</b></blockquote></p><p></p><p> In a recent bearish article, fellow Seeking Alpha contributor On The Pulse argued that Palantir was overvalued and that its reliance on government contracts was an issue. Palantir Technologies is, indeed, reliant on government contracts to a large degree today, but I do not believe that this is a major issue. First, Palantir has diversified away from government contracts in the recent past, thanks to massive growth in its commercial business:</p><p><blockquote>在最近一篇悲观的文章中,Seeking Alpha 撰稿人 On The Pulse 认为 Palantir 被高估了,其对政府合同的依赖是一个问题。事实上,Palantir Technologies 如今在很大程度上依赖政府合同,但我不认为这是一个主要问题。首先,由于其商业业务的大规模增长,Palantir 最近已经摆脱了政府合同的多元化:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/de23409915ee3811691b986a42ece899\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"308\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Palantir Technologies presentation</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:Palantir 技术演示文稿</span></p></blockquote></p><p> In fact, Palantir's commercial business has been growing much faster than its government business in the recent past, which shows that commercial customers from all kinds of industries apparently see a lot of value in Palantir's technology -- otherwise, they wouldn't be buying at a rapid pace. With</p><p><blockquote>事实上,Palantir 的商业业务近年来的增长速度远远快于其政府业务,这表明来自各行各业的商业客户显然都看到了 Palantir 技术的巨大价值——否则,他们就不会快速购买。和</blockquote></p><p> With the commercial business growth rate outpacing the government business growth rate, Palantir will, over the years, become a company that is less and less dependent on government contracts, and that will ultimately turn into a B2B-focused software/technology player. Even if Palantir were to remain a government-focused company forever, which seems unlikely based on the current growth rates of the individual business units, that would not necessarily be an issue. Working for the government means that there is very little counterparty risk and that existing relations can easily be used to get future contracts. Last but not least, with government budgets rising relatively steadily, good government connections allow for considerable growth opportunities -- especially in the defense tech/security tech space Palantir is active in, as there is a huge need for further investments in this space.</p><p><blockquote>随着商业业务增长率超过政府业务增长率,多年来,Palantir将成为一家越来越少依赖政府合同的公司,并最终转变为一家专注于B2B的软件/技术公司。即使 Palantir 永远是一家以政府为中心的公司(根据各个业务部门目前的增长率,这似乎不太可能),但这不一定是一个问题。为政府工作意味着交易对手风险很小,现有的关系可以很容易地用来获得未来的合同。最后但并非最不重要的一点是,随着政府预算相对稳步增长,良好的政府关系带来了相当大的增长机会——特别是在Palantir活跃的国防技术/安全技术领域,因为该领域有巨大的进一步投资需求。</blockquote></p><p> The claim that a government focus leads to lacking scalability is also false, I believe. Per Palantir's most recent quarterly report (linked above), its operating expenses rose by $9 million between Q3 2020 and Q3 2021 -- whereas revenues rose by $103 million in the same time frame. This backs out changes in share-based compensation. If one were to include those SBC expenses, Palantir's expenses actually<i>declined</i>year-over-year while the company managed to grow its revenue by close to 40%. The claim that Palantir will not generate any scale advantages over the years thus seems to be unfounded, I believe. Instead, the data suggest that Palantir will be able to grow its margins considerably -- the company was able to grow its adjusted gross profit by a massive $90 million while growing its adjusted operating expenses by just $9 million -- making for excellent operating leverage.</p><p><blockquote>我认为,政府关注导致缺乏可扩展性的说法也是错误的。根据 Palantir 最新的季度报告(上文链接),其运营费用在 2020 年第三季度至 2021 年第三季度期间增加了 900 万美元,而同期收入增加了 1.03 亿美元。这支持了基于股份的薪酬的变化。如果包括这些 SBC 费用,Palantir 的费用实际上<i>拒绝</i>同比增长,而该公司的收入增长了近 40%。因此,我认为,Palantir 多年来不会产生任何规模优势的说法似乎是没有根据的。相反,数据表明 Palantir 将能够大幅提高利润率——该公司调整后毛利润大幅增长 9000 万美元,而调整后运营费用仅增长 900 万美元——从而实现了出色的运营杠杆。</blockquote></p><p> <b>3. Exposure to rising rates</b></p><p><blockquote><b>3. 面临利率上升的风险</b></blockquote></p><p> Massive inflation will force the Fed to raise rates in 2022 and beyond, and that could be an issue for growth stocks. Companies that are not profitable today, or that have the vast majority of their profits in the distant future, are more exposed to a rising discount rate compared to companies that have low or no growth and that generate a large amount of all future profits in the near term. This could result in outperformance of value stocks versus growth stocks in the coming years, I believe. Palantir, which is not profitable yet, naturally belongs in the \"growth\" bucket that could see an above-average impact from rising interest rates. There is no real counter-argument here, I believe -- it is indeed true that the impact of rising rates on Palantir, all else equal, will be larger compared to a value stock like AbbVie (ABBV), for example.</p><p><blockquote>大规模通胀将迫使美联储在 2022 年及以后加息,这可能是成长型股票的一个问题。与增长缓慢或没有增长但在短期内产生大量未来利润的公司相比,今天不盈利或绝大多数利润的公司更容易受到贴现率上升的影响。我相信,这可能会导致未来几年价值股的表现优于成长型股。Palantir 尚未盈利,自然属于“增长”类别,利率上升可能会产生高于平均水平的影响。我相信,这里没有真正的反驳论点——在其他条件相同的情况下,与艾伯维 (ABBV) 等价值股相比,利率上升对 Palantir 的影响确实会更大。</blockquote></p><p> This being an incremental negative for Palantir doesn't mean that shares have to be avoided under any circumstances, however. Indeed, even despite some potential headwinds from rising rates, Palantir could still be an attractive investment if other arguments have a larger weight -- I believe this to be true, as I see PLTR's massive growth potential and huge moat outweighing some near-term headwinds from rising rates.</p><p><blockquote>然而,这对 Palantir 来说是一个渐进的负面影响,并不意味着在任何情况下都必须避免购买股票。事实上,尽管利率上升可能带来一些潜在的不利因素,但如果其他论点具有更大的分量,Palantir 仍然可能是一项有吸引力的投资——我相信这是真的,因为我看到 PLTR 的巨大增长潜力和巨大护城河超过了利率上升带来的一些近期不利因素。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Why Palantir Is Still Attractive</b></p><p><blockquote><b>为什么 Palantir 仍然有吸引力</b></blockquote></p><p> Bears bring up a range of arguments against Palantir, and as shown above, those can have merit. I believe that they might be overblown in some cases, but taking a look at the bear's arguments doesn't hurt -- in fact, it seems like a good idea to look at both sides in order to make a more informed decision. Dilution is indeed an issue, although I do not believe that this will be too much of a headwind, since PLTR's business growth easily outpaces dilution and since dilution, overall, should slow down over the years. Government reliance will wane over the years due to an above-average commercial business growth rate, and in general, doing business with the government is not a bad thing anyway. The claim that PLTR lacks scalability seems to be false, from what I see in PLTR's data.</p><p><blockquote>空头提出了一系列反对 Palantir 的论点,如上所述,这些论点可能有道理。我相信它们在某些情况下可能被夸大了,但看看熊的论点不会有什么坏处——事实上,为了做出更明智的决定,看看双方似乎是个好主意。稀释确实是一个问题,尽管我不认为这会是一个太大的阻力,因为 PLTR 的业务增长很容易超过稀释,而且总体而言,稀释应该会在未来几年放缓。由于高于平均水平的商业业务增长率,对政府的依赖将随着时间的推移而减弱,总的来说,与政府做生意无论如何都不是一件坏事。从我在PLTR的数据中看到的情况来看,PLTR缺乏可扩展性的说法似乎是错误的。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> Palantir is, despite these arguments, attractive, I believe: The company is growing rapidly, has decades-long growth potential in both its government business as well as on the commercial side, and Palantir seems to have a very wide moat. This combination could turn Palantir into one of the largest and most important companies eventually -- although investors shouldn't expect this to happen in the very near term. Instead, I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will grow at a considerable rate throughout the 2020s and beyond, as our world becomes ever more data-hungry -- both governments, as well as enterprises, will try to get the most value out of all of this data, and Palantir, with its tailored solutions, will be there to offer that value to its customers. With new tools such as the recently-showcased Foundry for crypto, Palantir is at the forefront of all kinds of emerging technologies. Thanks to the fact that Palantir has access to top talent -- the result of SBC and of an excellent working environment-- I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will be able to be highly competitive in all kinds of future markets in the Big Data/AI space that may not even exist yet.</p><p><blockquote>尽管存在这些争论,我相信 Palantir 仍然很有吸引力:该公司发展迅速,在政府业务和商业方面都具有数十年的增长潜力,而且 Palantir 似乎拥有非常宽阔的护城河。这种合并最终可能会使 Palantir 成为最大、最重要的公司之一——尽管投资者不应指望这种情况在短期内发生。相反,我相信,随着我们的世界变得越来越渴望数据,Palantir 很有可能在 2020 年代及以后以相当大的速度增长——政府和企业都将试图从所有这些数据中获得最大价值,而 Palantir 凭借其量身定制的解决方案将为客户提供这种价值。凭借最近展示的 Foundry for crypto 等新工具,Palantir 处于各种新兴技术的前沿。由于 Palantir 可以接触到顶尖人才——这是 SBC 和出色工作环境的结果——我相信 Palantir 很有可能能够在大数据/人工智能领域的各种未来市场中具有高度竞争力,而这些市场甚至可能还不存在。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Takeaway</b></p><p><blockquote><b>外卖</b></blockquote></p><p> In general, I am not much of a growth investor -- instead, I primarily focus on attractively priced stocks with strong cash flows, oftentimes those that pay dividends. Palantir, however, is somewhat of an outlier in my portfolio -- it's a growth stock, it is not really profitable yet, and most of its potential is years away. Due to the highly attractive combination of a massive market opportunity, excellent talent, and a wide moat, Palantir still seems like an attractive long-term investment to me. This isn't a stock that will make investors rich quickly, but I believe that there is a very good chance that Palantir will turn into a very dominant, important company over the next 10+ years. At 19x next year's revenue, PLTR is not cheap, but when we expect that the company will grow at a strong rate for many years, that also doesn't seem outlandish to me at all. It makes sense to listen to the bears' arguments, but I believe that the pros outweigh the cons here.</p><p><blockquote>总的来说,我不是一个成长型投资者——相反,我主要关注价格有吸引力、现金流强劲的股票,通常是那些支付股息的股票。然而,Palantir 在我的投资组合中有些异类——它是一只成长型股票,尚未真正盈利,而且其大部分潜力还需要数年时间。由于巨大的市场机会、优秀的人才和宽阔的护城河的极具吸引力的结合,Palantir 对我来说仍然是一项有吸引力的长期投资。这不是一只能让投资者快速致富的股票,但我相信 Palantir 很有可能在未来 10 多年内成为一家非常占主导地位的重要公司。明年收入的 19 倍,PLTR 并不便宜,但当我们预计该公司将在未来许多年内以强劲的速度增长时,这对我来说也一点也不奇怪。听听空头的论点是有道理的,但我相信这里利大于弊。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: 3 Reasons Against It And Why It's Still A Buy<blockquote>Palantir:反对它的 3 个理由以及为什么它仍然值得购买</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: 3 Reasons Against It And Why It's Still A Buy<blockquote>Palantir:反对它的 3 个理由以及为什么它仍然值得购买</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">Seeking Alpha</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-12-21 11:26</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>Palantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.</li> <li>PLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.</li> <li>Despite some interest rate headwinds, PLTR seems like a good investment to me, thanks to a strong moat and great growth outlook.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7230cdd890b86f9941b99b1503d04049\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1044\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>spxChrome/E+ via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>Palantir Technologies 是一只战场股票。对于多头来说,听取空头的论点是个好主意。</li><li>PLTR稀释了其股东,但这不一定是一个大问题。</li><li>尽管存在一些利率阻力,但由于强大的护城河和良好的增长前景,PLTR 对我来说似乎是一项不错的投资。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>spxChrome/E+ 来自盖蒂图片社</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Article Thesis</b></p><p><blockquote><b>文章论文</b></blockquote></p><p> Palantir Technologies (PLTR) is an embattled growth stock, and in recent weeks, bears have been winning as shares continued to decline. There are, indeed some important bear arguments, such as dilution, reliance on government contracts, and rising interest rates. I do, however, still believe that Palantir Technologies is an attractive long-term investment, due to the act that its technology could lead to massive growth for many years to come.</p><p><blockquote>Palantir Technologies (PLTR) 是一只陷入困境的成长型股票,最近几周,随着股价持续下跌,空头一直在获胜。确实有一些重要的看跌论点,例如稀释、对政府合同的依赖以及利率上升。然而,我仍然相信 Palantir Technologies 是一项有吸引力的长期投资,因为其技术可能会在未来许多年内带来巨大的增长。</blockquote></p><p> <b>3 Issues Brought Up By Bears</b></p><p><blockquote><b>空头提出的3个问题</b></blockquote></p><p> Palantir is a growth stock that brings out highly convinced bulls as well as highly convinced bears. Generally, I am in the bullish camp here, but taking a look at the bear arguments can be a good idea as well. Three of the most common arguments against Palantir are the following ones:</p><p><blockquote>Palantir 是一只成长型股票,既有高度确信的多头,也有高度确信的空头。总的来说,我在这里是看涨的阵营,但看看空头的论点也是一个好主意。反对Palantir的三个最常见的论点如下:</blockquote></p><p> <b>1. Shareholder Dilution</b></p><p><blockquote><b>1.股东摊薄</b></blockquote></p><p> Growth on a company-wide basis is important, but growth on a per-share basis is even more important. There are many examples that show that changes in a company's share count can create or destroy a lot of shareholder value. Apple (AAPL), for example, has seen its net income grow by roughly 190% over the last decade:</p><p><blockquote>全公司范围的增长很重要,但每股增长更重要。有许多例子表明,公司股票数量的变化可以创造或摧毁很多股东价值。例如,苹果 (AAPL) 的净利润在过去十年中增长了约 190%:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2b5263c8346cfbbb898f1d1ac9a5bead\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Thanks to a declining share count, its earnings per share rose by a much more attractive 350%, however -- buybacks created a lot of shareholder value. There are also examples where a rising share count destroyed a lot of shareholder value, e.g. at Citigroup (C):</p><p><blockquote>然而,由于股票数量减少,其每股收益增长了 350%,更具吸引力,但回购创造了大量股东价值。也有一些例子表明,股票数量的增加摧毁了很多股东的价值,例如花旗集团 (C):</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fc39008812f5e2d0082dedc95b025c68\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Massive share issuance during the Great Recession has resulted in a 75% earnings per share decline since 2007, even though net profits were up over the same time frame. Looking at the changes in a company's share count thus makes sense, as those changes can have a large impact in the long run. At Palantir, we see that the share count has been rising considerably since the company went public. During the most recent quarter, Palantir's share count looked like this:</p><p><blockquote>大衰退期间的大规模股票发行导致自 2007 年以来每股收益下降了 75%,尽管同期净利润有所增长。因此,查看公司股票数量的变化是有意义的,因为这些变化从长远来看会产生很大的影响。在 Palantir,我们看到自公司上市以来,股票数量一直在大幅增加。在最近一个季度,Palantir 的股票数量如下:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/917ca4d7a390ced61d7c92d528f84fc1\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"539\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Palantir Press Release</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:Palantir 新闻稿</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Compared to the second quarter, Palantir's average share count was 1.895 billion, which makes for a 3.5% quarterly increase, which pencils out to an annual growth rate in the mid-teens. That is, of course, not negligible at all, and bears to have an argument when they state that shareholders get diluted at a meaningful pace. On the other hand, Palantir's business growth rate is way higher than 3% per quarter, as the company has guided for ~40% revenue growth this year, and since Palantir should also deliver outsized business growth in the coming years. Even if Palantir's share count were to climb by 10%-15% a year going forward, revenue per share would still climb by 25%+ a year thanks to the fact that PLTR is growing rapidly. I also believe that dilution will, over the years, decline. Not only has this been the case at many other growth companies, e.g. Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG), or Meta (FB), but it is also logical from an option rewards perspective. Option rewards are especially generous when a company is not yet publicly traded and when its future is still more uncertain, but as a company matures, employees get more comfortable as risks for the company decline, and they do not demand large option packages any longer. Last but not least, Palantir also generates strong free cash flows that should allow the company to do share buybacks in the future, which should help improve the dilution rate as well.</p><p><blockquote>与第二季度相比,Palantir 的平均股数为 18.95 亿股,季度增长 3.5%,年增长率约为十几岁左右。当然,这一点根本不容忽视,当他们声称股东正在以有意义的速度被稀释时,值得争论。另一方面,Palantir 的业务增长率远高于每季度 3%,因为该公司预计今年的收入增长约为 40%,而且 Palantir 在未来几年也应该实现巨大的业务增长。即使Palantir的股票数量未来每年增长10%-15%,由于PLTR的快速增长,每股收入仍将每年增长25%以上。我还相信,随着时间的推移,稀释程度将会下降。不仅亚马逊(AMZN)、Alphabet(GOOG)或Meta(FB)等许多其他成长型公司都是如此,而且从期权奖励的角度来看,这也是合乎逻辑的。当一家公司尚未公开交易且其未来仍然更加不确定时,期权奖励尤其丰厚,但随着公司的成熟,随着公司风险的降低,员工会更加放心,他们不再需要大量的期权包。最后但并非最不重要的一点是,Palantir 还产生了强劲的自由现金流,这将使公司能够在未来进行股票回购,这也将有助于提高稀释率。</blockquote></p><p> <b>2. Reliance on government contracts</b></p><p><blockquote><b>2. 依赖政府合同</b></blockquote></p><p></p><p> In a recent bearish article, fellow Seeking Alpha contributor On The Pulse argued that Palantir was overvalued and that its reliance on government contracts was an issue. Palantir Technologies is, indeed, reliant on government contracts to a large degree today, but I do not believe that this is a major issue. First, Palantir has diversified away from government contracts in the recent past, thanks to massive growth in its commercial business:</p><p><blockquote>在最近一篇悲观的文章中,Seeking Alpha 撰稿人 On The Pulse 认为 Palantir 被高估了,其对政府合同的依赖是一个问题。事实上,Palantir Technologies 如今在很大程度上依赖政府合同,但我不认为这是一个主要问题。首先,由于其商业业务的大规模增长,Palantir 最近已经摆脱了政府合同的多元化:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/de23409915ee3811691b986a42ece899\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"308\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Palantir Technologies presentation</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:Palantir 技术演示文稿</span></p></blockquote></p><p> In fact, Palantir's commercial business has been growing much faster than its government business in the recent past, which shows that commercial customers from all kinds of industries apparently see a lot of value in Palantir's technology -- otherwise, they wouldn't be buying at a rapid pace. With</p><p><blockquote>事实上,Palantir 的商业业务近年来的增长速度远远快于其政府业务,这表明来自各行各业的商业客户显然都看到了 Palantir 技术的巨大价值——否则,他们就不会快速购买。和</blockquote></p><p> With the commercial business growth rate outpacing the government business growth rate, Palantir will, over the years, become a company that is less and less dependent on government contracts, and that will ultimately turn into a B2B-focused software/technology player. Even if Palantir were to remain a government-focused company forever, which seems unlikely based on the current growth rates of the individual business units, that would not necessarily be an issue. Working for the government means that there is very little counterparty risk and that existing relations can easily be used to get future contracts. Last but not least, with government budgets rising relatively steadily, good government connections allow for considerable growth opportunities -- especially in the defense tech/security tech space Palantir is active in, as there is a huge need for further investments in this space.</p><p><blockquote>随着商业业务增长率超过政府业务增长率,多年来,Palantir将成为一家越来越少依赖政府合同的公司,并最终转变为一家专注于B2B的软件/技术公司。即使 Palantir 永远是一家以政府为中心的公司(根据各个业务部门目前的增长率,这似乎不太可能),但这不一定是一个问题。为政府工作意味着交易对手风险很小,现有的关系可以很容易地用来获得未来的合同。最后但并非最不重要的一点是,随着政府预算相对稳步增长,良好的政府关系带来了相当大的增长机会——特别是在Palantir活跃的国防技术/安全技术领域,因为该领域有巨大的进一步投资需求。</blockquote></p><p> The claim that a government focus leads to lacking scalability is also false, I believe. Per Palantir's most recent quarterly report (linked above), its operating expenses rose by $9 million between Q3 2020 and Q3 2021 -- whereas revenues rose by $103 million in the same time frame. This backs out changes in share-based compensation. If one were to include those SBC expenses, Palantir's expenses actually<i>declined</i>year-over-year while the company managed to grow its revenue by close to 40%. The claim that Palantir will not generate any scale advantages over the years thus seems to be unfounded, I believe. Instead, the data suggest that Palantir will be able to grow its margins considerably -- the company was able to grow its adjusted gross profit by a massive $90 million while growing its adjusted operating expenses by just $9 million -- making for excellent operating leverage.</p><p><blockquote>我认为,政府关注导致缺乏可扩展性的说法也是错误的。根据 Palantir 最新的季度报告(上文链接),其运营费用在 2020 年第三季度至 2021 年第三季度期间增加了 900 万美元,而同期收入增加了 1.03 亿美元。这支持了基于股份的薪酬的变化。如果包括这些 SBC 费用,Palantir 的费用实际上<i>拒绝</i>同比增长,而该公司的收入增长了近 40%。因此,我认为,Palantir 多年来不会产生任何规模优势的说法似乎是没有根据的。相反,数据表明 Palantir 将能够大幅提高利润率——该公司调整后毛利润大幅增长 9000 万美元,而调整后运营费用仅增长 900 万美元——从而实现了出色的运营杠杆。</blockquote></p><p> <b>3. Exposure to rising rates</b></p><p><blockquote><b>3. 面临利率上升的风险</b></blockquote></p><p> Massive inflation will force the Fed to raise rates in 2022 and beyond, and that could be an issue for growth stocks. Companies that are not profitable today, or that have the vast majority of their profits in the distant future, are more exposed to a rising discount rate compared to companies that have low or no growth and that generate a large amount of all future profits in the near term. This could result in outperformance of value stocks versus growth stocks in the coming years, I believe. Palantir, which is not profitable yet, naturally belongs in the \"growth\" bucket that could see an above-average impact from rising interest rates. There is no real counter-argument here, I believe -- it is indeed true that the impact of rising rates on Palantir, all else equal, will be larger compared to a value stock like AbbVie (ABBV), for example.</p><p><blockquote>大规模通胀将迫使美联储在 2022 年及以后加息,这可能是成长型股票的一个问题。与增长缓慢或没有增长但在短期内产生大量未来利润的公司相比,今天不盈利或绝大多数利润的公司更容易受到贴现率上升的影响。我相信,这可能会导致未来几年价值股的表现优于成长型股。Palantir 尚未盈利,自然属于“增长”类别,利率上升可能会产生高于平均水平的影响。我相信,这里没有真正的反驳论点——在其他条件相同的情况下,与艾伯维 (ABBV) 等价值股相比,利率上升对 Palantir 的影响确实会更大。</blockquote></p><p> This being an incremental negative for Palantir doesn't mean that shares have to be avoided under any circumstances, however. Indeed, even despite some potential headwinds from rising rates, Palantir could still be an attractive investment if other arguments have a larger weight -- I believe this to be true, as I see PLTR's massive growth potential and huge moat outweighing some near-term headwinds from rising rates.</p><p><blockquote>然而,这对 Palantir 来说是一个渐进的负面影响,并不意味着在任何情况下都必须避免购买股票。事实上,尽管利率上升可能带来一些潜在的不利因素,但如果其他论点具有更大的分量,Palantir 仍然可能是一项有吸引力的投资——我相信这是真的,因为我看到 PLTR 的巨大增长潜力和巨大护城河超过了利率上升带来的一些近期不利因素。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Why Palantir Is Still Attractive</b></p><p><blockquote><b>为什么 Palantir 仍然有吸引力</b></blockquote></p><p> Bears bring up a range of arguments against Palantir, and as shown above, those can have merit. I believe that they might be overblown in some cases, but taking a look at the bear's arguments doesn't hurt -- in fact, it seems like a good idea to look at both sides in order to make a more informed decision. Dilution is indeed an issue, although I do not believe that this will be too much of a headwind, since PLTR's business growth easily outpaces dilution and since dilution, overall, should slow down over the years. Government reliance will wane over the years due to an above-average commercial business growth rate, and in general, doing business with the government is not a bad thing anyway. The claim that PLTR lacks scalability seems to be false, from what I see in PLTR's data.</p><p><blockquote>空头提出了一系列反对 Palantir 的论点,如上所述,这些论点可能有道理。我相信它们在某些情况下可能被夸大了,但看看熊的论点不会有什么坏处——事实上,为了做出更明智的决定,看看双方似乎是个好主意。稀释确实是一个问题,尽管我不认为这会是一个太大的阻力,因为 PLTR 的业务增长很容易超过稀释,而且总体而言,稀释应该会在未来几年放缓。由于高于平均水平的商业业务增长率,对政府的依赖将随着时间的推移而减弱,总的来说,与政府做生意无论如何都不是一件坏事。从我在PLTR的数据中看到的情况来看,PLTR缺乏可扩展性的说法似乎是错误的。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> Palantir is, despite these arguments, attractive, I believe: The company is growing rapidly, has decades-long growth potential in both its government business as well as on the commercial side, and Palantir seems to have a very wide moat. This combination could turn Palantir into one of the largest and most important companies eventually -- although investors shouldn't expect this to happen in the very near term. Instead, I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will grow at a considerable rate throughout the 2020s and beyond, as our world becomes ever more data-hungry -- both governments, as well as enterprises, will try to get the most value out of all of this data, and Palantir, with its tailored solutions, will be there to offer that value to its customers. With new tools such as the recently-showcased Foundry for crypto, Palantir is at the forefront of all kinds of emerging technologies. Thanks to the fact that Palantir has access to top talent -- the result of SBC and of an excellent working environment-- I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will be able to be highly competitive in all kinds of future markets in the Big Data/AI space that may not even exist yet.</p><p><blockquote>尽管存在这些争论,我相信 Palantir 仍然很有吸引力:该公司发展迅速,在政府业务和商业方面都具有数十年的增长潜力,而且 Palantir 似乎拥有非常宽阔的护城河。这种合并最终可能会使 Palantir 成为最大、最重要的公司之一——尽管投资者不应指望这种情况在短期内发生。相反,我相信,随着我们的世界变得越来越渴望数据,Palantir 很有可能在 2020 年代及以后以相当大的速度增长——政府和企业都将试图从所有这些数据中获得最大价值,而 Palantir 凭借其量身定制的解决方案将为客户提供这种价值。凭借最近展示的 Foundry for crypto 等新工具,Palantir 处于各种新兴技术的前沿。由于 Palantir 可以接触到顶尖人才——这是 SBC 和出色工作环境的结果——我相信 Palantir 很有可能能够在大数据/人工智能领域的各种未来市场中具有高度竞争力,而这些市场甚至可能还不存在。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Takeaway</b></p><p><blockquote><b>外卖</b></blockquote></p><p> In general, I am not much of a growth investor -- instead, I primarily focus on attractively priced stocks with strong cash flows, oftentimes those that pay dividends. Palantir, however, is somewhat of an outlier in my portfolio -- it's a growth stock, it is not really profitable yet, and most of its potential is years away. Due to the highly attractive combination of a massive market opportunity, excellent talent, and a wide moat, Palantir still seems like an attractive long-term investment to me. This isn't a stock that will make investors rich quickly, but I believe that there is a very good chance that Palantir will turn into a very dominant, important company over the next 10+ years. At 19x next year's revenue, PLTR is not cheap, but when we expect that the company will grow at a strong rate for many years, that also doesn't seem outlandish to me at all. It makes sense to listen to the bears' arguments, but I believe that the pros outweigh the cons here.</p><p><blockquote>总的来说,我不是一个成长型投资者——相反,我主要关注价格有吸引力、现金流强劲的股票,通常是那些支付股息的股票。然而,Palantir 在我的投资组合中有些异类——它是一只成长型股票,尚未真正盈利,而且其大部分潜力还需要数年时间。由于巨大的市场机会、优秀的人才和宽阔的护城河的极具吸引力的结合,Palantir 对我来说仍然是一项有吸引力的长期投资。这不是一只能让投资者快速致富的股票,但我相信 Palantir 很有可能在未来 10 多年内成为一家非常占主导地位的重要公司。明年收入的 19 倍,PLTR 并不便宜,但当我们预计该公司将在未来许多年内以强劲的速度增长时,这对我来说也一点也不奇怪。听听空头的论点是有道理的,但我相信这里利大于弊。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4475960-palantir-3-reasons-against-it-and-why-its-still-a-buy\">Seeking Alpha</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4475960-palantir-3-reasons-against-it-and-why-its-still-a-buy","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1117226796","content_text":"Summary\n\nPalantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.\nPLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.\nDespite some interest rate headwinds, PLTR seems like a good investment to me, thanks to a strong moat and great growth outlook.\n\nspxChrome/E+ via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nPalantir Technologies (PLTR) is an embattled growth stock, and in recent weeks, bears have been winning as shares continued to decline. There are, indeed some important bear arguments, such as dilution, reliance on government contracts, and rising interest rates. I do, however, still believe that Palantir Technologies is an attractive long-term investment, due to the act that its technology could lead to massive growth for many years to come.\n3 Issues Brought Up By Bears\nPalantir is a growth stock that brings out highly convinced bulls as well as highly convinced bears. Generally, I am in the bullish camp here, but taking a look at the bear arguments can be a good idea as well. Three of the most common arguments against Palantir are the following ones:\n1. Shareholder Dilution\nGrowth on a company-wide basis is important, but growth on a per-share basis is even more important. There are many examples that show that changes in a company's share count can create or destroy a lot of shareholder value. Apple (AAPL), for example, has seen its net income grow by roughly 190% over the last decade:\nData by YCharts\nThanks to a declining share count, its earnings per share rose by a much more attractive 350%, however -- buybacks created a lot of shareholder value. There are also examples where a rising share count destroyed a lot of shareholder value, e.g. at Citigroup (C):\nData by YCharts\nMassive share issuance during the Great Recession has resulted in a 75% earnings per share decline since 2007, even though net profits were up over the same time frame. Looking at the changes in a company's share count thus makes sense, as those changes can have a large impact in the long run. At Palantir, we see that the share count has been rising considerably since the company went public. During the most recent quarter, Palantir's share count looked like this:\nSource: Palantir Press Release\nCompared to the second quarter, Palantir's average share count was 1.895 billion, which makes for a 3.5% quarterly increase, which pencils out to an annual growth rate in the mid-teens. That is, of course, not negligible at all, and bears to have an argument when they state that shareholders get diluted at a meaningful pace. On the other hand, Palantir's business growth rate is way higher than 3% per quarter, as the company has guided for ~40% revenue growth this year, and since Palantir should also deliver outsized business growth in the coming years. Even if Palantir's share count were to climb by 10%-15% a year going forward, revenue per share would still climb by 25%+ a year thanks to the fact that PLTR is growing rapidly. I also believe that dilution will, over the years, decline. Not only has this been the case at many other growth companies, e.g. Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG), or Meta (FB), but it is also logical from an option rewards perspective. Option rewards are especially generous when a company is not yet publicly traded and when its future is still more uncertain, but as a company matures, employees get more comfortable as risks for the company decline, and they do not demand large option packages any longer. Last but not least, Palantir also generates strong free cash flows that should allow the company to do share buybacks in the future, which should help improve the dilution rate as well.\n2. Reliance on government contracts\nIn a recent bearish article, fellow Seeking Alpha contributor On The Pulse argued that Palantir was overvalued and that its reliance on government contracts was an issue. Palantir Technologies is, indeed, reliant on government contracts to a large degree today, but I do not believe that this is a major issue. First, Palantir has diversified away from government contracts in the recent past, thanks to massive growth in its commercial business:\nSource: Palantir Technologies presentation\nIn fact, Palantir's commercial business has been growing much faster than its government business in the recent past, which shows that commercial customers from all kinds of industries apparently see a lot of value in Palantir's technology -- otherwise, they wouldn't be buying at a rapid pace. With\nWith the commercial business growth rate outpacing the government business growth rate, Palantir will, over the years, become a company that is less and less dependent on government contracts, and that will ultimately turn into a B2B-focused software/technology player. Even if Palantir were to remain a government-focused company forever, which seems unlikely based on the current growth rates of the individual business units, that would not necessarily be an issue. Working for the government means that there is very little counterparty risk and that existing relations can easily be used to get future contracts. Last but not least, with government budgets rising relatively steadily, good government connections allow for considerable growth opportunities -- especially in the defense tech/security tech space Palantir is active in, as there is a huge need for further investments in this space.\nThe claim that a government focus leads to lacking scalability is also false, I believe. Per Palantir's most recent quarterly report (linked above), its operating expenses rose by $9 million between Q3 2020 and Q3 2021 -- whereas revenues rose by $103 million in the same time frame. This backs out changes in share-based compensation. If one were to include those SBC expenses, Palantir's expenses actuallydeclinedyear-over-year while the company managed to grow its revenue by close to 40%. The claim that Palantir will not generate any scale advantages over the years thus seems to be unfounded, I believe. Instead, the data suggest that Palantir will be able to grow its margins considerably -- the company was able to grow its adjusted gross profit by a massive $90 million while growing its adjusted operating expenses by just $9 million -- making for excellent operating leverage.\n3. Exposure to rising rates\nMassive inflation will force the Fed to raise rates in 2022 and beyond, and that could be an issue for growth stocks. Companies that are not profitable today, or that have the vast majority of their profits in the distant future, are more exposed to a rising discount rate compared to companies that have low or no growth and that generate a large amount of all future profits in the near term. This could result in outperformance of value stocks versus growth stocks in the coming years, I believe. Palantir, which is not profitable yet, naturally belongs in the \"growth\" bucket that could see an above-average impact from rising interest rates. There is no real counter-argument here, I believe -- it is indeed true that the impact of rising rates on Palantir, all else equal, will be larger compared to a value stock like AbbVie (ABBV), for example.\nThis being an incremental negative for Palantir doesn't mean that shares have to be avoided under any circumstances, however. Indeed, even despite some potential headwinds from rising rates, Palantir could still be an attractive investment if other arguments have a larger weight -- I believe this to be true, as I see PLTR's massive growth potential and huge moat outweighing some near-term headwinds from rising rates.\nWhy Palantir Is Still Attractive\nBears bring up a range of arguments against Palantir, and as shown above, those can have merit. I believe that they might be overblown in some cases, but taking a look at the bear's arguments doesn't hurt -- in fact, it seems like a good idea to look at both sides in order to make a more informed decision. Dilution is indeed an issue, although I do not believe that this will be too much of a headwind, since PLTR's business growth easily outpaces dilution and since dilution, overall, should slow down over the years. Government reliance will wane over the years due to an above-average commercial business growth rate, and in general, doing business with the government is not a bad thing anyway. The claim that PLTR lacks scalability seems to be false, from what I see in PLTR's data.\nPalantir is, despite these arguments, attractive, I believe: The company is growing rapidly, has decades-long growth potential in both its government business as well as on the commercial side, and Palantir seems to have a very wide moat. This combination could turn Palantir into one of the largest and most important companies eventually -- although investors shouldn't expect this to happen in the very near term. Instead, I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will grow at a considerable rate throughout the 2020s and beyond, as our world becomes ever more data-hungry -- both governments, as well as enterprises, will try to get the most value out of all of this data, and Palantir, with its tailored solutions, will be there to offer that value to its customers. With new tools such as the recently-showcased Foundry for crypto, Palantir is at the forefront of all kinds of emerging technologies. Thanks to the fact that Palantir has access to top talent -- the result of SBC and of an excellent working environment-- I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will be able to be highly competitive in all kinds of future markets in the Big Data/AI space that may not even exist yet.\nTakeaway\nIn general, I am not much of a growth investor -- instead, I primarily focus on attractively priced stocks with strong cash flows, oftentimes those that pay dividends. Palantir, however, is somewhat of an outlier in my portfolio -- it's a growth stock, it is not really profitable yet, and most of its potential is years away. Due to the highly attractive combination of a massive market opportunity, excellent talent, and a wide moat, Palantir still seems like an attractive long-term investment to me. This isn't a stock that will make investors rich quickly, but I believe that there is a very good chance that Palantir will turn into a very dominant, important company over the next 10+ years. At 19x next year's revenue, PLTR is not cheap, but when we expect that the company will grow at a strong rate for many years, that also doesn't seem outlandish to me at all. It makes sense to listen to the bears' arguments, but I believe that the pros outweigh the cons here.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"PLTR":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3509,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":608636122,"gmtCreate":1638706503852,"gmtModify":1638706503852,"author":{"id":"3585191808723701","authorId":"3585191808723701","name":"Mattsailor","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3585191808723701","authorIdStr":"3585191808723701"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"Difficult to value Grab as a profitable business. I am wary about how long before they can be profitable if at all.","listText":"Difficult to value Grab as a profitable business. I am wary about how long before they can be profitable if at all.","text":"Difficult to value Grab as a profitable business. I am wary about how long before they can be profitable if at all.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/608636122","repostId":"2188951783","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3931,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}