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2021-11-23

$SINGAPORE AIRLINES LTD(C6L.SI)$long term hodler brothers~ why are ppl panicking? No trust shouldnt buy in the first place :3

2021-10-08

$Camber Energy(CEI)$Lesson learnt bois :) This will only help me learn and become a better trader👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

2021-08-05

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2021-11-17

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2021-10-26

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Tesla shares rose 5% in morning trading after reaching one trillion dollar market cap.<blockquote>特斯拉股价在达到1万亿美元市值后，早盘上涨5%。</blockquote>

2021-12-04

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2021-11-08

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2021-11-22

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2021-06-03

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2021-06-03

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Investors consider the tech giant a safe bet in an increasingly volatile market, as the highest-valued names in the sector get hit by hawkish signals from the Federal Reserve.</p><p><blockquote>苹果股价今年已飙升25%，周一收盘创下新纪录。投资者认为，在日益动荡的市场中，这家科技巨头是一个安全的赌注，因为该行业估值最高的公司受到了美联储鹰派信号的打击。</blockquote></p><p> Huberty also increased her estimates for Apple’s December quarter, citing improving iPhone supply as manufacturing disruptions ease.</p><p><blockquote>Huberty还上调了对苹果12月份季度的预期，理由是随着制造中断的缓解，iPhone供应有所改善。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AAPL":"苹果"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1159685639","content_text":"Apple shares rose more than 3% to a new high after the company got another street-high target on virtual reality boost.\n\nApple Inc. got its second Street-high price target as Morgan Stanley sees it benefiting from new product categories in virtual reality and autonomous vehicles.\nAnalyst Katy Huberty, who rates Apple overweight, raised her price target to $200 from $164, matching Wedbush as the highest among targets tracked by Bloomberg. \nWhile investors have struggled to value the iPhone maker’s new products given the company’s secrecy, Huberty expects augmented and virtual reality, as well as autonomous vehicles, to eventually be priced in, and says Apple should also benefit from a “flight to quality” in technology stocks.\n“Despite a consistent and material revenue contribution from new products and services over time, Apple shares don’t seem to bake in the impact from upcoming new product launches,” Huberty wrote in a note. “We believe this will change as Apple approaches the launch of an AR/VR product over the next year.”\n\nApple’s shares have surged 25% this year and ended Monday’s session at a fresh record. 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referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>特斯拉将所有车型销售额、成本合并披露，投资者无法算出每种车型的毛利润率，只能做定性分析——</p>\n<p>2018年Q3，高端车型交付数占比33%，单辆售价、单辆成本分别为7万美元、5.25万美元，单辆毛利润1.75万美元，毛利润率25%。</p>\n<p>2021年Q3，高端车型交付数占比仅4%，单辆售价、单辆成本分别降到4.8万美元、3.38万美元，单辆毛利润1.46万美元，毛利润率提高到30%。</p>\n<p>尽管单辆毛利润金额减少16.6%，但交付数增长187%。2021年Q3，特斯拉汽车销售毛利润达35.2亿美元，较2018年Q3增长139%。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/556c0b9e4bb349cf62a2933b585dd647\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"644\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>特斯拉以高端产品打开市场的策略是正确的。</p>\n<p>一方面，身为“新势力”，产能有限，敢于“吃螃蟹”的用户也没那么多。</p>\n<p>另一方面，推出精心打磨、凝聚诸多“黑科技”的高端产品，能够树立良好的品牌形象。等公司站稳脚跟、产能逐步扩大再推出“亲民”产品。消费者发现“<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BJZ.SI\">高大</a>上”的特斯拉能买得起，欣然解囊。</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">蔚来</a>首先推出售价50万左右的ES8，与特斯拉的思路基本相同。</p>\n<p>但规模经济是汽车工业的铁律，要上规模就必须薄利多销。顶级<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/DLX\">豪华</a>品牌，<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/RACE\">法拉利</a>、宾利、布加迪活得艰难，丰田、大众成为行业翘楚。马斯克想得很清楚。</p>\n<p><b>营收多元化的努力</b></p>\n<p>中国整车制造企业采用4S店模式，售后服务盈利能力可观（工时费、“零整比”）。特斯拉采用“互联网思维”，通过自建的服务中心进行“直销”并提供售后服务，特斯拉还自建超级充电桩，提供有偿服务。根据公开资料，特斯拉在中国建立了100个服务中心、800座充电站，覆盖310个城市，有1700个充电桩。</p>\n<p>特斯拉还涉足储能及光伏发电，在澳大利亚、加州布置锂电池储能装置。</p>\n<p>这样一来，特斯拉就有了三项收入：汽车（含租赁）、服务、发电/储能。</p>\n<p>2017年以来，汽车业务营收占比在82%~87%之间波动，其中的电动车销售是推动营收增长的唯一引擎。</p>\n<p>2018年，电动车销售收入176亿美元，同比增长107%，在营收中的比重升至86.3%，带动营收整体增速达到82.5%。</p>\n<p>2019年，电动车销售收入200亿美元，同比增速降到13%，占营收的84.7%，营收整体仅增14.5%。</p>\n<p>2020年，电动车销售收入262亿美元，同比增速回升至31%，在营收中的份额提高到86.4%，营收整体增速为28.3%。</p>\n<p>2021年前三季，电动车销售收入达303亿美元，同比增长42%，在营收中的比重升至86.6%，营收整体增速达到73.6%。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3a9d0028c1d798a2fd3c647228051c9a\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"633\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>特斯拉的营收多元化努力有得有失，服务业务扭亏在即，令人“遐想”，储能/发电业务可能“误入歧途”。</p>\n<p><b>服务亏损收窄意义非凡</b></p>\n<p>特斯拉采用直销模式，一方面是“标新立异”，另一方面也因为初创时期缺乏品牌号召力，难以吸引外部资金投资、运营4S店。</p>\n<p>2018年特斯拉服务收入13.9亿美元，毛亏损4.9亿美元，亏损率高达35.2%；2019年服务业务毛亏损5.4亿美元，毛亏损率缩减到24.4%；2021年前三季度，毛亏损1.2亿美元，毛亏损率4.5%。</p>\n<p>2018年以来，特斯拉服务毛亏损率呈45%向上缩减，扭亏指日可待。这是蔚来梦寐以求的局面。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/04dc22604df9d5c44b7fc5abb45af1f4\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"631\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>特斯拉服务亏损收窄意义非凡。</p>\n<p>首先可以大幅提高盈利能力。如果服务亏损，随着保有量增长，特斯拉将不堪重负，蔚来正面临这一危机。如果服务能赚钱，利润将源源不断。</p>\n<p>其次，从根本上改变了车企与用户的关系。传统企业通过第三方销售并提供售后服务，特斯拉与用户保持“直连”，与<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">苹果</a>、小米一样，既卖硬件又“获客”，“钱途”不可限量。</p>\n<p><b>从这个角度，特斯拉的高估值是有道理的。</b></p>\n<p><b>储能业务可能是条歧路</b></p>\n<p>特斯拉储能业务从加州起步。起初，借助天时地利人和，毛利润率直追电动车业务。</p>\n<p>随着远离家乡和规模扩大，储能业务效益急剧下滑。2021年前三季度，储能业务出现7800万美元毛亏损，亏损率3.7%。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e2b1d935b8f2bdd6561296fe2689acf2\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"640\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>特斯拉当年选择18650三元锂电池无可厚非，一是技术高度成熟可靠，拿来就可以用；二是能量密度高。至于成本，高端的用度可以承受，但却将全世界新能源车引上“锂电池”之路。</p>\n<p>如今电动车普及成度最高的中国，锂电渗透率也才9%，仅在2021年，锂电池上游材料已经涨了300%。</p>\n<p>锂在自然界中的丰度较高，但具备经济开采价值的资源有限，且集中在“南美锂三角”和西澳。粗略测算，全球可以合理成本开采的锂能够装备20亿辆纯电动车。假如全球每年销售的新车全部采用锂电池，只够用20年。<b>锂电池显然不是新能源车的最终解决方案！</b></p>\n<p><b>锂、钴、镍、锰造动力电池还远远不够，能拿出多少用于储能？</b>某研究机构还煞有介事地预测<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300750\">宁德时代</a>2060年储能业务收入，谁知道那时候还有没有锂！</p>\n<p>目前运营的化学储能项目，90%采用的是锂电池。除资源瓶颈，锂电池用于储能还有两大障碍——</p>\n<p><b>一是安全性/可靠性。</b>天太冷，储存的电量会被“消灭”；天太热，可能会爆炸。电动汽车、电动自行车爆炸自燃的案例数不胜数：2021年，特斯拉澳大利亚储能电站重达13吨的锂电池发生爆炸，大火烧了三天；北京南四环锂电池储能电站也发生过爆炸事故；近3年内，全球范围内的储能项目发生爆炸和火灾事故多达26起。问题是，全球一共才有几个储能项目，爆炸的概率也太高了。</p>\n<p><b>有人认为燃气、电也不是绝对安全，锂电池的爆燃危险且先不说，但各地纷纷禁止电动车室内充电，没禁用燃气、用电！</b></p>\n<p><b>二是循环寿命太短。</b>花巨资建的储能电站（即便用循环寿命更高的磷酸铁锂电池），每天充放一次，用十年八年就Game Over了？</p>\n<p><b>特斯拉选择锂电池有历史的必然性，但锂电池注定不是新能源车及储能的最终解决方案。</b></p>\n<p>假如最终的解决方案是氢燃料电池，对年销量超100万辆新能源车的特斯拉、比亚迪来讲，无非是换家供应商。而且，以马斯克、王传福的性情，大概率会自己搞氢燃料电池。那时候苦的是宁德时代。#功能机王者<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NOK\">诺基亚</a>无法称霸智能机时代#</p>\n<p><b>总而言之，特斯拉值1万亿美元，但不是现在。</b></p>","source":"highlight_huxiu","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>特斯拉真会暴跌90%吗？别激动，认真分析一下</title>\n<style 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交付1764辆），销售收入85.4亿美元，净亏损22.4亿美元。当时多数人不看好这家公司。\n上海“超级工厂”的建设救了特斯拉——2018年签约，2019年开工建设，2020年产能逐步释放，三季度末达到25万辆/年。\n到2020年Q3，特斯拉单季产、销量分别达到14.5万辆和14万辆，环比增幅分别为76.8%、53.8%。再到2021年Q3，产、销量分别23.8万辆、24.1万辆，产销率102%。\n规模经济是汽车工业的铁律，概莫能外。特斯拉科技内核虽硬，年销量10万辆出头的2017年几乎亏到破产，年销量超过25万辆的2018年让多头看到曙光，年销量36.5万辆的2019年亏损率收窄至3%，年销量超过50万辆的2020年才算“温饱”。\n截至2021年9月末，加州基地产能达60万辆/年（其中Model 3/Y产能50万辆/年），上海基地产能45万辆/年（全部为Model 3/Y产能），合计105万辆/年。2021年10月，比亚迪新能源车单月销量超过8万辆，年化产能亦达百万量级。\n2021年前三季，特斯拉累积销量62.4万辆，净利润33亿美元，市值突破万亿美元。\n没有燃油车生产经验，直接研发、生产、销售电动车，通常这样的“玩家”被定义为新势力。与“新势力”对应的是比亚迪、上汽、北汽、广汽等“拥抱”新能源车的燃油车生产企业。至于奔驰、宝马、大众等企业还醉心于从燃油车赚“最后一个铜板”，还在拿“48v轻混”自欺欺人。\n其实，年产数百万辆的传统车企推出新能源车具有“先天优势”：一是不存在产能瓶颈；二是基建、生产设施、模具等方方面面都可借燃油车的“光”，成本比较容易控制 。新势力从PPT起步，前期巨亏是必然的。\n特斯拉的历程说明：“20万辆/年”是生死线，“50万辆/年”是温饱线。新能源车玩家中，只有特斯拉、比亚迪跨越了这两条线，并已突进到100万辆/年这个“超级关口”。蔚、小、理差距实在太大，在销量接近“20万辆/年”之前没必要关注。#只有炒作机会，没有投资价值#\n薄利多销是王道\n特斯拉财报披露销量时，将Model X与Model S合并、Model 3与Model Y合并。Model X/S是高端产品，主打性能；Model 3/Y是“普惠”产品，主打性价比。\n早年的特斯拉，高端车型是绝对主流。到2018年Q3，Model 3交付5.6万辆，占比达67%（当时Model Y还没有下线）；2019年Q3，高端车型占比降至18%；2021年Q3，Model 3/Y交付达23.2万辆，占比96%。\n\n特斯拉将所有车型销售额、成本合并披露，投资者无法算出每种车型的毛利润率，只能做定性分析——\n2018年Q3，高端车型交付数占比33%，单辆售价、单辆成本分别为7万美元、5.25万美元，单辆毛利润1.75万美元，毛利润率25%。\n2021年Q3，高端车型交付数占比仅4%，单辆售价、单辆成本分别降到4.8万美元、3.38万美元，单辆毛利润1.46万美元，毛利润率提高到30%。\n尽管单辆毛利润金额减少16.6%，但交付数增长187%。2021年Q3，特斯拉汽车销售毛利润达35.2亿美元，较2018年Q3增长139%。\n\n特斯拉以高端产品打开市场的策略是正确的。\n一方面，身为“新势力”，产能有限，敢于“吃螃蟹”的用户也没那么多。\n另一方面，推出精心打磨、凝聚诸多“黑科技”的高端产品，能够树立良好的品牌形象。等公司站稳脚跟、产能逐步扩大再推出“亲民”产品。消费者发现“高大上”的特斯拉能买得起，欣然解囊。\n蔚来首先推出售价50万左右的ES8，与特斯拉的思路基本相同。\n但规模经济是汽车工业的铁律，要上规模就必须薄利多销。顶级豪华品牌，法拉利、宾利、布加迪活得艰难，丰田、大众成为行业翘楚。马斯克想得很清楚。\n营收多元化的努力\n中国整车制造企业采用4S店模式，售后服务盈利能力可观（工时费、“零整比”）。特斯拉采用“互联网思维”，通过自建的服务中心进行“直销”并提供售后服务，特斯拉还自建超级充电桩，提供有偿服务。根据公开资料，特斯拉在中国建立了100个服务中心、800座充电站，覆盖310个城市，有1700个充电桩。\n特斯拉还涉足储能及光伏发电，在澳大利亚、加州布置锂电池储能装置。\n这样一来，特斯拉就有了三项收入：汽车（含租赁）、服务、发电/储能。\n2017年以来，汽车业务营收占比在82%~87%之间波动，其中的电动车销售是推动营收增长的唯一引擎。\n2018年，电动车销售收入176亿美元，同比增长107%，在营收中的比重升至86.3%，带动营收整体增速达到82.5%。\n2019年，电动车销售收入200亿美元，同比增速降到13%，占营收的84.7%，营收整体仅增14.5%。\n2020年，电动车销售收入262亿美元，同比增速回升至31%，在营收中的份额提高到86.4%，营收整体增速为28.3%。\n2021年前三季，电动车销售收入达303亿美元，同比增长42%，在营收中的比重升至86.6%，营收整体增速达到73.6%。\n\n特斯拉的营收多元化努力有得有失，服务业务扭亏在即，令人“遐想”，储能/发电业务可能“误入歧途”。\n服务亏损收窄意义非凡\n特斯拉采用直销模式，一方面是“标新立异”，另一方面也因为初创时期缺乏品牌号召力，难以吸引外部资金投资、运营4S店。\n2018年特斯拉服务收入13.9亿美元，毛亏损4.9亿美元，亏损率高达35.2%；2019年服务业务毛亏损5.4亿美元，毛亏损率缩减到24.4%；2021年前三季度，毛亏损1.2亿美元，毛亏损率4.5%。\n2018年以来，特斯拉服务毛亏损率呈45%向上缩减，扭亏指日可待。这是蔚来梦寐以求的局面。\n\n特斯拉服务亏损收窄意义非凡。\n首先可以大幅提高盈利能力。如果服务亏损，随着保有量增长，特斯拉将不堪重负，蔚来正面临这一危机。如果服务能赚钱，利润将源源不断。\n其次，从根本上改变了车企与用户的关系。传统企业通过第三方销售并提供售后服务，特斯拉与用户保持“直连”，与苹果、小米一样，既卖硬件又“获客”，“钱途”不可限量。\n从这个角度，特斯拉的高估值是有道理的。\n储能业务可能是条歧路\n特斯拉储能业务从加州起步。起初，借助天时地利人和，毛利润率直追电动车业务。\n随着远离家乡和规模扩大，储能业务效益急剧下滑。2021年前三季度，储能业务出现7800万美元毛亏损，亏损率3.7%。\n\n特斯拉当年选择18650三元锂电池无可厚非，一是技术高度成熟可靠，拿来就可以用；二是能量密度高。至于成本，高端的用度可以承受，但却将全世界新能源车引上“锂电池”之路。\n如今电动车普及成度最高的中国，锂电渗透率也才9%，仅在2021年，锂电池上游材料已经涨了300%。\n锂在自然界中的丰度较高，但具备经济开采价值的资源有限，且集中在“南美锂三角”和西澳。粗略测算，全球可以合理成本开采的锂能够装备20亿辆纯电动车。假如全球每年销售的新车全部采用锂电池，只够用20年。锂电池显然不是新能源车的最终解决方案！\n锂、钴、镍、锰造动力电池还远远不够，能拿出多少用于储能？某研究机构还煞有介事地预测宁德时代2060年储能业务收入，谁知道那时候还有没有锂！\n目前运营的化学储能项目，90%采用的是锂电池。除资源瓶颈，锂电池用于储能还有两大障碍——\n一是安全性/可靠性。天太冷，储存的电量会被“消灭”；天太热，可能会爆炸。电动汽车、电动自行车爆炸自燃的案例数不胜数：2021年，特斯拉澳大利亚储能电站重达13吨的锂电池发生爆炸，大火烧了三天；北京南四环锂电池储能电站也发生过爆炸事故；近3年内，全球范围内的储能项目发生爆炸和火灾事故多达26起。问题是，全球一共才有几个储能项目，爆炸的概率也太高了。\n有人认为燃气、电也不是绝对安全，锂电池的爆燃危险且先不说，但各地纷纷禁止电动车室内充电，没禁用燃气、用电！\n二是循环寿命太短。花巨资建的储能电站（即便用循环寿命更高的磷酸铁锂电池），每天充放一次，用十年八年就Game 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Why This Expert Sees Apple Stock Dipping 12%<blockquote>出售苹果公司？为什么这位专家认为苹果股价下跌12%</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1116429379","media":"Thestreet","summary":"As Apple stock(AAPL) continues to hover around $150 apiece, one of the few skeptics on Wall Street h","content":"<p>As Apple stock(<b>AAPL</b>)&nbsp;continues to hover around $150 apiece, one of the few skeptics on Wall Street has just published his most updated report. In it, he reinforced the idea that AAPL should be worth only $132, suggesting that shares have 12% of downside risk from here.</p><p><blockquote>作为苹果股票(<b>AAPL</b>）继续徘徊在150美元左右，华尔街为数不多的怀疑论者之一刚刚发布了他的最新报告。在其中，他强化了AAPL的价值应该仅为132美元的观点，表明其股价从现在开始有12%的下行风险。</blockquote></p><p> Today, the Apple Maven revisits Bernstein’s Toni Sacconaghi’s mildly bearish case.</p><p><blockquote>今天，这位苹果专家重温了Bernstein的托尼·萨科纳吉(Toni Sacconaghi)温和悲观的观点。</blockquote></p><p> The not-so-bullish case</p><p><blockquote>不那么乐观的情况</blockquote></p><p> Mr. Sacconaghi has been cautious of AAPL since he&nbsp;downgraded&nbsp;the stock to neutral, in February 2018. The timing of his move did not prove to be the best, as Apple shares have climbed a whopping 285% in less than four years against the S&amp;P 500’s 85% gains. However, the analyst has also helped AAPL investors think of the devil’s advocate argument.</p><p><blockquote>自2018年2月将AAPL股票评级下调至中性以来，萨科纳吉先生一直对该股持谨慎态度。事实证明，他此举的时机并不是最好的，因为苹果股价在不到四年的时间里上涨了285%，而标普500的涨幅为85%。然而，这位分析师也帮助苹果公司投资者思考了魔鬼代言人的论点。</blockquote></p><p> In August, I&nbsp;reviewed Bernstein’s thesis&nbsp;in more detail. For the short term, the bank’s research team was concerned that Apple stock had climbed too fast in the first half of the year, ahead of a set of earnings seasons in which Apple would face tough comps.</p><p><blockquote>8月，我更详细地回顾了伯恩斯坦的论文。短期而言，该银行的研究团队担心苹果股价在今年上半年上涨过快，而苹果将在一系列财报季中面临严峻的竞争。</blockquote></p><p> Also, Toni has mentioned valuations as a key risk. While he believes that AAPL should be valued at a higher multiple than the S&amp;P 500, the analyst questions how much is too much. Bernstein’s target P/E of 25 times is one to two turns lower than where the multiple is today.</p><p><blockquote>此外，托尼提到估值是一个关键风险。虽然他认为苹果公司的估值应该高于标普500，但分析师质疑多少才算过高。伯恩斯坦的目标市盈率为25倍，比目前的市盈率低一到两倍。</blockquote></p><p> Add App Store to the list</p><p><blockquote>将App Store添加到列表</blockquote></p><p> Now, the analyst has&nbsp;added&nbsp;one item to the list of worries: the App Store. Sacconaghi pointed out that a recent court loss will likely mean that payments will be allowed to be made outside the App Store platform in the US, starting as early as next month.</p><p><blockquote>现在，这位分析师在担忧清单上增加了一项：应用商店。萨科纳吉指出，最近的法庭败诉可能意味着最早从下个月开始，美国将允许在App Store平台之外进行支付。</blockquote></p><p> Bernstein’s expert has done the math. He estimates that nearly one-third of App Store revenues come from the United States. If the App Store accounts for 6% and 15% of total company sales and op profits, respectively, the payment issue could impact 2% of Apple’s revenues and 5% of op profits per year.</p><p><blockquote>伯恩斯坦的专家已经计算过了。他估计，App Store近三分之一的收入来自美国。如果App Store分别占公司总销售额和op利润的6%和15%，那么支付问题可能会影响苹果每年2%的收入和5%的op利润。</blockquote></p><p> Apple Maven’s take</p><p><blockquote>苹果·梅文的看法</blockquote></p><p> Regarding Toni’s earlier concerns, I believe that the risks have decreased substantially since AAPL peaked, in early September. Since then, investors have had time to fully embrace the more challenging late 2021-to-early 2022 period of tough comps and supply chain constraints.As I mentioned not long ago, valuations have de-risked to more reasonable levels.</p><p><blockquote>关于托尼之前的担忧，我认为自AAPL于9月初见顶以来，风险已大幅降低。从那时起，投资者有时间充分迎接2021年底至2022年初更具挑战性的艰难竞争和供应链限制时期。正如我不久前提到的，估值已经降低到更合理的水平。</blockquote></p><p> Regarding the App Store, I have slowly&nbsp;shifted from more to less concerned&nbsp;about the financial impact. Morgan Stanley’s Katy Huberty has argued that App Store policy changes could shave a maximum of 1% or 2% of Apple’s EPS, which is not much at all.</p><p><blockquote>关于App Store，我已经慢慢地从更关心财务影响转向不太关心。Morgan Stanley的Katy Huberty认为，应用商店政策的变化最多可能会使苹果的每股收益减少1%或2%，这并不多。</blockquote></p><p> Even Sacconaghi’s estimates of the financial risk only represents the worst-case scenario. In reality, much less than 2% of Apple’s revenues and 5% of op profits will likely end up being cut as a result of the App Store’s payment changes, as many users will continue to choose Apple as their payment platform of choice.</p><p><blockquote>即使是萨科纳吉对金融风险的估计也只代表了最坏的情况。事实上，由于App Store的支付变化，苹果收入的2%和运营利润的5%可能最终会被削减，因为许多用户将继续选择苹果作为他们的首选支付平台。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Sell AAPL? 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Why This Expert Sees Apple Stock Dipping 12%<blockquote>出售苹果公司？为什么这位专家认为苹果股价下跌12%</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">Thestreet</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-11-16 11:34</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>As Apple stock(<b>AAPL</b>)&nbsp;continues to hover around $150 apiece, one of the few skeptics on Wall Street has just published his most updated report. In it, he reinforced the idea that AAPL should be worth only $132, suggesting that shares have 12% of downside risk from here.</p><p><blockquote>作为苹果股票(<b>AAPL</b>）继续徘徊在150美元左右，华尔街为数不多的怀疑论者之一刚刚发布了他的最新报告。在其中，他强化了AAPL的价值应该仅为132美元的观点，表明其股价从现在开始有12%的下行风险。</blockquote></p><p> Today, the Apple Maven revisits Bernstein’s Toni Sacconaghi’s mildly bearish case.</p><p><blockquote>今天，这位苹果专家重温了Bernstein的托尼·萨科纳吉(Toni Sacconaghi)温和悲观的观点。</blockquote></p><p> The not-so-bullish case</p><p><blockquote>不那么乐观的情况</blockquote></p><p> Mr. Sacconaghi has been cautious of AAPL since he&nbsp;downgraded&nbsp;the stock to neutral, in February 2018. The timing of his move did not prove to be the best, as Apple shares have climbed a whopping 285% in less than four years against the S&amp;P 500’s 85% gains. However, the analyst has also helped AAPL investors think of the devil’s advocate argument.</p><p><blockquote>自2018年2月将AAPL股票评级下调至中性以来，萨科纳吉先生一直对该股持谨慎态度。事实证明，他此举的时机并不是最好的，因为苹果股价在不到四年的时间里上涨了285%，而标普500的涨幅为85%。然而，这位分析师也帮助苹果公司投资者思考了魔鬼代言人的论点。</blockquote></p><p> In August, I&nbsp;reviewed Bernstein’s thesis&nbsp;in more detail. For the short term, the bank’s research team was concerned that Apple stock had climbed too fast in the first half of the year, ahead of a set of earnings seasons in which Apple would face tough comps.</p><p><blockquote>8月，我更详细地回顾了伯恩斯坦的论文。短期而言，该银行的研究团队担心苹果股价在今年上半年上涨过快，而苹果将在一系列财报季中面临严峻的竞争。</blockquote></p><p> Also, Toni has mentioned valuations as a key risk. While he believes that AAPL should be valued at a higher multiple than the S&amp;P 500, the analyst questions how much is too much. Bernstein’s target P/E of 25 times is one to two turns lower than where the multiple is today.</p><p><blockquote>此外，托尼提到估值是一个关键风险。虽然他认为苹果公司的估值应该高于标普500，但分析师质疑多少才算过高。伯恩斯坦的目标市盈率为25倍，比目前的市盈率低一到两倍。</blockquote></p><p> Add App Store to the list</p><p><blockquote>将App Store添加到列表</blockquote></p><p> Now, the analyst has&nbsp;added&nbsp;one item to the list of worries: the App Store. Sacconaghi pointed out that a recent court loss will likely mean that payments will be allowed to be made outside the App Store platform in the US, starting as early as next month.</p><p><blockquote>现在，这位分析师在担忧清单上增加了一项：应用商店。萨科纳吉指出，最近的法庭败诉可能意味着最早从下个月开始，美国将允许在App Store平台之外进行支付。</blockquote></p><p> Bernstein’s expert has done the math. He estimates that nearly one-third of App Store revenues come from the United States. If the App Store accounts for 6% and 15% of total company sales and op profits, respectively, the payment issue could impact 2% of Apple’s revenues and 5% of op profits per year.</p><p><blockquote>伯恩斯坦的专家已经计算过了。他估计，App Store近三分之一的收入来自美国。如果App Store分别占公司总销售额和op利润的6%和15%，那么支付问题可能会影响苹果每年2%的收入和5%的op利润。</blockquote></p><p> Apple Maven’s take</p><p><blockquote>苹果·梅文的看法</blockquote></p><p> Regarding Toni’s earlier concerns, I believe that the risks have decreased substantially since AAPL peaked, in early September. Since then, investors have had time to fully embrace the more challenging late 2021-to-early 2022 period of tough comps and supply chain constraints.As I mentioned not long ago, valuations have de-risked to more reasonable levels.</p><p><blockquote>关于托尼之前的担忧，我认为自AAPL于9月初见顶以来，风险已大幅降低。从那时起，投资者有时间充分迎接2021年底至2022年初更具挑战性的艰难竞争和供应链限制时期。正如我不久前提到的，估值已经降低到更合理的水平。</blockquote></p><p> Regarding the App Store, I have slowly&nbsp;shifted from more to less concerned&nbsp;about the financial impact. Morgan Stanley’s Katy Huberty has argued that App Store policy changes could shave a maximum of 1% or 2% of Apple’s EPS, which is not much at all.</p><p><blockquote>关于App Store，我已经慢慢地从更关心财务影响转向不太关心。Morgan Stanley的Katy Huberty认为，应用商店政策的变化最多可能会使苹果的每股收益减少1%或2%，这并不多。</blockquote></p><p> Even Sacconaghi’s estimates of the financial risk only represents the worst-case scenario. In reality, much less than 2% of Apple’s revenues and 5% of op profits will likely end up being cut as a result of the App Store’s payment changes, as many users will continue to choose Apple as their payment platform of choice.</p><p><blockquote>即使是萨科纳吉对金融风险的估计也只代表了最坏的情况。事实上，由于App Store的支付变化，苹果收入的2%和运营利润的5%可能最终会被削减，因为许多用户将继续选择苹果作为他们的首选支付平台。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源：<a href=\"https://www.thestreet.com/apple/stock/sell-aapl-why-this-expert-sees-apple-stock-dipping-12\">Thestreet</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AAPL":"苹果"},"source_url":"https://www.thestreet.com/apple/stock/sell-aapl-why-this-expert-sees-apple-stock-dipping-12","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1116429379","content_text":"As Apple stock(AAPL) continues to hover around $150 apiece, one of the few skeptics on Wall Street has just published his most updated report. In it, he reinforced the idea that AAPL should be worth only $132, suggesting that shares have 12% of downside risk from here.\nToday, the Apple Maven revisits Bernstein’s Toni Sacconaghi’s mildly bearish case.\nThe not-so-bullish case\nMr. Sacconaghi has been cautious of AAPL since he downgraded the stock to neutral, in February 2018. The timing of his move did not prove to be the best, as Apple shares have climbed a whopping 285% in less than four years against the S&P 500’s 85% gains. However, the analyst has also helped AAPL investors think of the devil’s advocate argument.\nIn August, I reviewed Bernstein’s thesis in more detail. For the short term, the bank’s research team was concerned that Apple stock had climbed too fast in the first half of the year, ahead of a set of earnings seasons in which Apple would face tough comps.\nAlso, Toni has mentioned valuations as a key risk. 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