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Bander

Bander

I like bear and bull!! (:D>

IP属地：四川

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2024-12-14

$美元/离岸人民币(USDCNH.FOREX)$ 我不信任美元，但是我更加不相信那个，必跌！

2025-01-12

$美元/离岸人民币(USDCNH.FOREX)$ 我原来说的7.5都保守了

2024-09-02

$富敦美元货币市场基金(SGXZ99103178.USD)$ 为何没有收益呢？！三天了

2024-11-28

$美元/离岸人民币(USDCNH.FOREX)$ 一直大量放水，结果在机构等里面空转，知道内需不正，老百姓成穷光蛋，没油水了，如今要提升外需，但是不降低利率对冲税的话，谁买你东西，肯定贬值

2025-03-17

$美元/离岸人民币(USDCNH.FOREX)$ 必须空！！

2025-02-25

$Destiny Tech100 Inc(DXYZ)$ 还能涨吗

2025-06-30

$美元/离岸人民币(USDCNH.FOREX)$ 靠，真想再换点！！

2020-07-06

还是有明白人啊

行情会演变为全面牛市吗？这波暴涨的基础是什么

2025-04-23

$TSLA 20250425 225.0 CALL$ 只后悔昨天判断以后，买少了

2025-08-27

$BRK.B 20251121 485.0 CALL$ 波段期权

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2007年的后世；2015年是2020年的前生，<b>我们今天科技股的大部分题材，都在2015年出现了，唯一的区别：2014~2015年是纯粹的炒概念，垃圾股横飞，而现在，很多概念跑出了真正有业绩支持的科技白马和二线蓝筹。</b></p>\n<p>从这个角度看，2015年的大牛市非常重要，它发挥股市资源配置的作用，将属于中国未来的新经济产业与A股提前产生了关联，它用高商誉的代价，为A股保存了一笔属于未来的优质资产——如果按照正常的A股上市流程，它很可能只会出现在纳斯达克和香港。</p>\n<p>这三点是两次大牛市的共性，在此基础上，我们才能讨论何时迎来第三次大牛市？</p>\n<p><b>新经济的结构牛？</b></p>\n<p>这三个条件中，现阶段的流动性是不必怀疑的，可国家总会收回这些流动性，也是无须怀疑的，<b>现在唯一的疑问是，在国家收回流动性的时间窗口之前，牛市的其他两个条件会不会发生。</b></p>\n<p>先看上市公司业绩，很多人认为，当前受疫情严重影响的经济，不可能出现牛市。实际上，股市上涨并不取决于业绩的绝对数，而是当期业绩的相对景气度。</p>\n<p>我们来推演一下，牛市出现的边际条件：</p>\n<p>假如A股在中报之前能依靠低估值蓝筹涨到3500点（只是假设），再加上第二季上市公司业绩转暖大幅超预期（参照数据：2019年和2020年一季度为6.4%和-24%），同时外围没有出现利空，三个条件同时具备，股指就有了继续向上到4000点的可能，如果经济继续回暖，三季报出现整体超预期增长，而国家又没有收回流动性前，就有可能转为一波大牛市。</p>\n<p><b>所以接下来，大牛市真正重要的判断依据是中报业绩的恢复度和三季度业绩是否会超预期增长。</b></p>\n<p>很多人认为，中国股市与经济无关，实际上，股市与经济的关系也符合「遛狗理论」，有时候跑在经济前面，有时候跑在经济后面。</p>\n<p><b>最重要的是最后一个条件，是否能有符合当前经济特征的主涨板块。</b></p>\n<p>这两天低估值板块的上涨给人风格转换的感觉。事实上，在进入2015年大牛市之前，主板也有过一波逆袭，当时的蓝筹股实在是太便宜了，茅台才1000亿市值，招商银行才0.87倍的PB，但主板的这一波补涨蓝筹股不再便宜之后，大涨的接力棒再次交到了创业板手中，一口气完成了主升浪。</p>\n<p>这一点前面已经推演过了，这两天异动的低估值板块不太可能带领市场实现牛熊转换。<b>新经济永远是在泡沫中诞生的，未来如果有一波大牛市，业绩释放特征更类似于2007年般的猛烈，它的产业特征更类似于2015年的新经济。</b></p>\n<p><b>有这三个条件并不一定会出现大牛市，还需要前后相继发生，一轮牛市的出现往往是多个因素的恰到好处的碰头，而且还必须是自然而然的，不能强行创造人工造牛。并</b>且中间没有大的利空，一气呵成，所以近20年也只发生过两次大牛市。</p>\n<p><b>还有，未来就算有大牛市，也是结构牛市，因为壳资源已经不值钱，垃圾股涨到一定程度后，被大股东减持的概率很高。</b></p>\n<p>最后还是要强调一下，我从不预测市场，我只会给出市场选择某个方向时所需要的边际条件，这样才能对未来所有的可能做好准备。</p>","source":"sxgy","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE 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