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12-05 15:42

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 破不破我不知道我做空了现在也在亏损中

12-05 15:41

谷歌吧安卓的基础用户群更加庞大

12-05 15:41

二婚股基本不参与没啥想象力

12-04

今天港股准备卖中国宏桥put 美股准备卖tlt89put

12-03

我觉得会估值太高

期权策略 | 大空头 Burry 这次瞄准特斯拉，第二次沽空会成功吗？

12-03

必须打啊现在情绪还可以

12-03

支持我也准备做空已经挂单可惜没成交

12-02

今天买人造肉和稀土股

12-02

$Beyond Meat, Inc.(BYND)$ 本周散户带领人造肉王者归来

11-29

不能当美团的涨跌要看albb脸色我就不看好他了

11-28

我暂时看空因为这次反弹是因为阿里要减少闪购补贴

10-05

看跌已做经做空了，看看能不能吃肉

10-03

怎么集合啊

09-30

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 超买严重看跌

09-26

还是小米吧起码国产品牌

09-19

必须参与

09-19

不抢

iPhone 17首发大排长龙！口碑火爆却最快“破发”，Air未上市，要等运营商eSIM获批

09-10

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08-30

$COS.HK 20250929 13.00 PUT$

08-22

$TCH.HK 20250822 590.00 PUT$

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随后在公开场合称那只是“一个交易”，并不意味着对特斯拉长期看空。","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>最近，电影《大空头》原型人物 Michael Burry 在一条 Substack 帖子中指控，特斯拉（Tesla）的股价<strong>“荒谬地高估”</strong>，并指出在马斯克（Elon Musk）提出 1 万亿美元薪酬方案后，股东被稀释的情况预计将继续发生，每年会令股东权益被稀释约 3.6%，且马斯克并没有通过回购来抵消这一影响。</p><p>Michael Burry ——因在 2008 年金融危机前精准做空美国房地产市场而闻名，并被拍成电影《大空头》。</p><p>该消息引发世界范围内的传播，下面为Bloomberg的报道：</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dd47663a499b877c20380b5c4656420c\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1279\" tg-height=\"1379\"/></p><p><strong>近期 Michael Burry 的观点持续受到资本市场追踪：</strong></p><p>11月11日。Burry指出：科技巨头“低估折旧导致利润虚高”，2028年甲骨文利润虚高26.9%。（甲骨文截至目前跌幅超10%）</p><p>11月初。Burry旗下的13F文件披露：做空英伟达。（英伟达11月跌幅达12.5%）</p><p>Michael Burry对特斯拉的指控并无道理：特斯拉高估值、马斯克损害股东利益：</p><h4 id=\"id_914544632\">指控一，特斯拉高估值</h4><p>以最近 12 个月市盈率来看，特斯拉（Tesla）当前的 P/E 已经高达约 296 倍。这一估值远远超过传统车企，如丰田汽车（Toyota）市盈率约为 8.7倍，仅为特斯拉的百分之几。</p><p>即使与科技巨头相比，差距仍然显著，像英伟达 的 P/E 约为 44.9倍，Meta 和 Alphabet 的 P/E 则分别约为 28–31倍。</p><p>也就是说，市场给特斯拉的估值，已经不仅是对汽车业务的溢价，而是在以极高增长的科技巨头的标准对待一家汽车制造商。</p><h4 id=\"id_358471813\">指控二，马斯克损害股东利益</h4><p>2021年和2022年，Elon Musk（马斯克）通过大规模出售股票套现数百亿美元，曾导致特斯拉股价在短期内暴跌近七成，对股东造成重大损失。</p><p>如今公司的新一轮薪酬／期权计划再次引发市场担忧：未来进一步稀释股份，普通股东利益可能被进一步削弱。</p><h4 id=\"id_3348701816\">Burry曾经对特斯拉失败的沽空</h4><p>2021 年第一季度末，Burry 持有特斯拉约 800,100 股的认沽期权（put options），对应名义金额约为 5.34 亿美元。但随后特斯拉股价持续上涨。</p><p>2021 年第三季度，Burry 退出了其对特斯拉的空头头寸。Burry 随后在公开场合称那只是“一个交易”（a trade），并不意味着对特斯拉长期看空。</p><p></p><p>针对特斯拉股价方向不明，以下期权策略可作参考：</p><h2 id=\"id_3497513190\">一、偏空策略：Bear Call Spread（看空 CALL 价差）</h2><p><strong>逻辑</strong></p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Michael Burry 的指控被市场认可，并持续发酵</p></li><li><p>特斯拉估值重估</p></li></ul><p><strong>结构</strong></p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>卖出一张2026年1月2日到期、行权价为410的CALL</p></li><li><p>买入一张2026年1月2日到期、行权价为415的CALL</p></li></ul><p><strong>盈亏平衡点（到期）</strong>：413.02（目前价位429.24）</p><p><a href=\"https://tigr.link/s/10CzWz8\" title=\"TSLA 260102 410 CALL / 415 CALL \" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\">TSLA 260102 410 CALL / 415 CALL</a></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/706f0b9e0572dd478419166ca45a54b5\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1269\" tg-height=\"1383\"/></p><h2 id=\"id_763220772\">二、偏多策略：Bull Call Spread（看涨 CALL 价差）</h2><p><strong>逻辑</strong></p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Michael Burry 的指控被市场忽略</p></li><li><p>Michael Burry重演对特斯拉的失败沽空</p></li></ul><p><strong>结构</strong></p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>买入一张2026年1月2日到期、行权价为440的CALL</p></li><li><p>卖出一张2026年1月2日到期、行权价为445的CALL</p></li></ul><p><strong>盈亏平衡点（到期）</strong>：441.95（目前价位429.24）</p><p><a href=\"https://tigr.link/s/70CzZYe\" title=\"TSLA 260102 440 CALL / 445 CALL\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\">TSLA 260102 440 CALL / 445 CALL</a></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ee8e27e903407bc266095b990953e7df\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1284\" tg-height=\"1385\"/></p><p><em>免责声明：期权交易具有高风险特征，投资者需根据自身风险承受能力审慎决策。</em></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta 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href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1020040791\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/7471350466f20d36ee3112d77c72cd89);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">期权女巫 </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2025-12-03 15:58</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>最近，电影《大空头》原型人物 Michael Burry 在一条 Substack 帖子中指控，特斯拉（Tesla）的股价<strong>“荒谬地高估”</strong>，并指出在马斯克（Elon Musk）提出 1 万亿美元薪酬方案后，股东被稀释的情况预计将继续发生，每年会令股东权益被稀释约 3.6%，且马斯克并没有通过回购来抵消这一影响。</p><p>Michael Burry ——因在 2008 年金融危机前精准做空美国房地产市场而闻名，并被拍成电影《大空头》。</p><p>该消息引发世界范围内的传播，下面为Bloomberg的报道：</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dd47663a499b877c20380b5c4656420c\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1279\" tg-height=\"1379\"/></p><p><strong>近期 Michael Burry 的观点持续受到资本市场追踪：</strong></p><p>11月11日。Burry指出：科技巨头“低估折旧导致利润虚高”，2028年甲骨文利润虚高26.9%。（甲骨文截至目前跌幅超10%）</p><p>11月初。Burry旗下的13F文件披露：做空英伟达。（英伟达11月跌幅达12.5%）</p><p>Michael Burry对特斯拉的指控并无道理：特斯拉高估值、马斯克损害股东利益：</p><h4 id=\"id_914544632\">指控一，特斯拉高估值</h4><p>以最近 12 个月市盈率来看，特斯拉（Tesla）当前的 P/E 已经高达约 296 倍。这一估值远远超过传统车企，如丰田汽车（Toyota）市盈率约为 8.7倍，仅为特斯拉的百分之几。</p><p>即使与科技巨头相比，差距仍然显著，像英伟达 的 P/E 约为 44.9倍，Meta 和 Alphabet 的 P/E 则分别约为 28–31倍。</p><p>也就是说，市场给特斯拉的估值，已经不仅是对汽车业务的溢价，而是在以极高增长的科技巨头的标准对待一家汽车制造商。</p><h4 id=\"id_358471813\">指控二，马斯克损害股东利益</h4><p>2021年和2022年，Elon Musk（马斯克）通过大规模出售股票套现数百亿美元，曾导致特斯拉股价在短期内暴跌近七成，对股东造成重大损失。</p><p>如今公司的新一轮薪酬／期权计划再次引发市场担忧：未来进一步稀释股份，普通股东利益可能被进一步削弱。</p><h4 id=\"id_3348701816\">Burry曾经对特斯拉失败的沽空</h4><p>2021 年第一季度末，Burry 持有特斯拉约 800,100 股的认沽期权（put options），对应名义金额约为 5.34 亿美元。但随后特斯拉股价持续上涨。</p><p>2021 年第三季度，Burry 退出了其对特斯拉的空头头寸。Burry 随后在公开场合称那只是“一个交易”（a trade），并不意味着对特斯拉长期看空。</p><p></p><p>针对特斯拉股价方向不明，以下期权策略可作参考：</p><h2 id=\"id_3497513190\">一、偏空策略：Bear Call Spread（看空 CALL 价差）</h2><p><strong>逻辑</strong></p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Michael Burry 的指控被市场认可，并持续发酵</p></li><li><p>特斯拉估值重估</p></li></ul><p><strong>结构</strong></p><ul 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