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2020-02-25

$NIO 20200306 5.0 CALL(NIO)$ 一念地狱，幸好自己拿住了～～～

2020-11-05

$蔚来(NIO)$ 这是疯了么？我这个多头都有点慌了

2021-01-05

$蔚来(NIO)$$拼多多(PDD)$$特斯拉(TSLA)$咨询下，各位老哥的美金怎么汇入国内的？如果正常申报，用什么名义申报？提交哪些材料呢？

2020-07-02

$Sea Ltd(SE)$ $蔚來(NIO)$ 第二只破200%收益，等待NIO你成为第三个[爱你] [爱你] [爱你]

2020-11-13

$蔚来(NIO)$ 感谢蔚来，13倍收入先撤了。涨势太疯狂了，加上citron 作妖，祝好车上的朋友们多赚

2020-03-03

$蔚来(NIO)$ 我就想知道这货啥时候发财报

2020-01-06

$Sea Ltd(SE)$ 这股怎么了？一定要等财报出来才飞一波么

2020-10-02

$蔚来(NIO)$ 我擦，这都逆上来了？？小心黑子把你打下去

2020-01-25

$BABA 20200320 270.0 CALL(BABA)$ 汗，一个月以后再来看一眼，哭

2024-06-08

$游戏驿站(GME)$ 真正的主角 FFIE 哈哈

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18:58","market":"us","language":"zh","title":"那些抄底蔚来的年轻人","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1182412395","media":" 未来汽车Daily","summary":"有人一夜暴富，也有人颗粒无收。\n\n10月28日，欧美股市全线崩溃。据Wind数据，截至收盘，美股三大指数集体暴跌。道指和标普500指数均创6月11日以来最大单日跌幅。\n难以估量的巨额财富随之蒸发，无数","content":"<blockquote>\n 有人一夜暴富，也有人颗粒无收。\n</blockquote>\n<p>10月28日，欧美股市全线崩溃。据Wind数据，截至收盘，美股三大指数集体暴跌。道指和标普500指数均创6月11日以来最大单日跌幅。</p>\n<p>难以估量的巨额财富随之蒸发，无数投资者彻夜难眠。但对于长期行走在股市里的人而言，或许早习以为常。</p>\n<p>在美股市场中，有一群特殊的股民。他们被创始人的人格魅力折服，坚信其未来能够比肩<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>，在股价最低谷时果断抄底，与这家公司共同创造了一场财富奇迹。</p>\n<p>故事的主角就是<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">蔚来</a>与它的股民们。</p>\n<p>今年以来，蔚来股价累计涨幅达560%。如果从去年10月2日的最低价1.19美元算起，蔚来在过去一年里涨幅高达2126%，总市值达373.99亿美元。9月29日，蔚来股价一鼓作气冲上20美元，之后更是在10月14日和15日，单日股价涨幅超过28%，逼近30美元。</p>\n<p></p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5d89d0f20c3484d3e4b0a3c1a0bc2d8e\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"1416\"><span>数据来源：<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TIGR\">老虎证券</a></span></p>\n<p>那些与特斯拉狂飙突进的股价失之交臂的人们，将精力和目光转向蔚来。在这片流传着各种版本造富故事的欲望土地里，有一夜暴富，也不乏悲情与懊悔。</p>\n<p>有95后年轻人敢于冒险，暴跌时买入，不久后便实现了财务自由；有人因为炒蔚来股票狂赚200万美元（约合人民币1341.7万元）；也有人获益近十倍赚得千万，未及时抽身，又将全部收益如数奉还，从此退出炒股江湖。</p>\n<p>粗略计算，即便没有在股价最低点抄底蔚来，仅过去一年，蔚来也成为了超十倍股。“随便买入都能翻倍，”在一位散户看来，“这是一个傻子都能赚钱的机会”。不过理性的投资者认为，这终究是一个掺杂着运气与赌博的游戏，能将十倍股全部拿下的人少之又少。更重要的是，无论是站在波峰还是跌入谷底，“都要坚定地支持蔚来”。</p>\n<p>未来汽车日报采访了四位抄底蔚来股票的投资者，听他们分享自己的造富经历。以下为受访者口述（经未来汽车日报整理）。</p>\n<p><b>01</b></p>\n<p><b>从10万人民币加到10万美元，“支持一下这个男人”</b></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3c54ea8ee988a828e98925666eb15f9e\" tg-width=\"960\" tg-height=\"540\"></p>\n<p>接触蔚来之前，我是一个纯粹的小白，从没有碰过股票，也很反感炒股，一直觉得这是一件不务正业的事情。直到前男友拿着我的200万人民币炒股，突然在某一天亏掉100多万，我才开始关注股市信息。</p>\n<p>当时看了一圈，也不知道买哪个。后来想起曾在朋友圈刷到的那篇《蔚来李斌，2019年最惨的人》，那是我第一次知道蔚来。因为同是创业者，看完文章后有种心有戚戚焉的感觉，被其中很多情节触动。我比较老实，属于经常吃亏的那种人，所以引起很多共情。当时我就想，不知道买什么那就买蔚来，支持一下这个男人。</p>\n<p>买股票其实看的也是公司创始人的人品，在这批新造车里，我调查过多位创始人的背景和性格，很佩服李斌这样的创业前辈，我完全被他的人格魅力所折服。</p>\n<p>刚入手的那段时间里，蔚来股票一直处在横盘阶段，新韭菜什么都不懂，意志并不坚定，很容易被带节奏，跟着舆论或者市场情绪走，慢慢就卖掉了一些。</p>\n<p>直到有一天赶上蔚来股价涨幅比较大，我对这家公司才有了更深入的了解，能感觉到这是一家正在努力成长的企业，也坚定了我投入蔚来的信念。<b>之后我就一直加仓，从10万人民币加到10万美元，重仓蔚来。</b></p>\n<p>当时有很多人劝我，说买蔚来很难赚到钱，我当时就觉得，不赚钱放在那里也无所谓，如果亏了，就当支持朋友一把。我的想法很简单，选股票就是选公司，就相当于把钱借给它，让它能更好地发展。</p>\n<p>今年6月，我不断向身边的朋友推荐蔚来的股票，但大家都不搭理我，怎么洗脑都没有成功。<b>到8月份，我差不多赚到了一辆蔚来ES8的钱，当时都没来得及试驾体验，就直接订了一辆。</b>下订单之前，我甚至连驾照都没有。但是综合对比了一些参数，我觉得这是一辆诚心实意设计并且为用户考虑的车，买起来也很有安全感。</p>\n<p>小白往往容易撞大运。今年10月13日，原来买的一笔2万美元的期权即将到期作废，前一天已经亏损了95%左右，而且价格偏离太多，根本不可能回本。通常情况下，当下卖掉，还能保住1000、2000美元的本金回血。但当时我抱着要死一起死的心态没有卖，觉得无所谓了，大不了以后再赚回来。结果一夜之间翻盘，赚了3、4万美元。</p>\n<p>现在回想起来，我可能算股民里比较特殊的一个，运气比较好，选的第一支股票就是蔚来。我的心态也比较好，如果把获利全部吐回去，我也能接受。靠运气赚的钱，看得没有那么重。</p>\n<p>我一直坚持唱多蔚来，从一块多到现在，我觉得它的股价不是意料之外的上涨，而是正常的价值回归。我始终认为，蔚来这个品牌，一直被低估。可能在资本市场，看中的就是盈利能力，如果前期没有盈利，就很难被认可。但换个角度去看，如果等到各项数据都转正了，那也不是现在这个价格能买到的。</p>\n<p>现在牌面变得越来越清晰，我其实不懂K线图，也不懂PE、市盈率，但如果中国的汽车企业一定要有个排名，那第一肯定是蔚来。选股票，不买第一买谁？这其实是很简单的决策过程。这也是我们这些新韭菜，能比投资机构以更便宜的价格抄底蔚来的原因吧。</p>\n<p><b>02</b></p>\n<p><b>“熔断发生后，几乎每一天都在亏损”</b></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cc29e0ff5455ca7d3a34a5df8e52af8a\" tg-width=\"960\" tg-height=\"540\"></p>\n<p>我是蔚来的前员工。当初去蔚来面试时，我觉得在中国能有企业好好造车其实很难得。大多数企业只看重整车毛利率、纯利润，他们甚至不认为车主会回购，或者推荐朋友购车。但是蔚来成功开拓了这条路。后来，所有人都想模仿，甚至有不少传统主机厂的人，通过各种方式联系我们。</p>\n<p>2019年有许多人离开蔚来，随着蔚来情况好转，今年很多同事又陆续回去了。看到那些唱衰蔚来的文章，我们都非常生气，虽然已经不在蔚来工作了，但是蔚来对我们来说，就像自家的孩子，要打要骂我可以，别人不行。不管怎样，李斌真的是一个非常好的老板，他不只把用户的利益放在第一位，也把员工放在心上，做他的员工很幸福。</p>\n<p>认可蔚来，是我购买蔚来股票的原因。早在2017年，公司就发了期权。2019年8月份，我开了户，到11月蔚来股价跌到一块多美元的时候，我选择买入。虽然当时已经离开了蔚来，但对我来说，无论在职与否，我都看好这家公司，也看好整个赛道。</p>\n<p>如果用一句话总结，它是我掌握能力范围内恒定的一个投资标的物，我看好它一定会涨。在此之前，我从来没有炒过股。</p>\n<p>当时业内有各种唱衰蔚来的说法，我甚至还听过“蔚来倒闭最快就是明天，最晚明年”。不过对我而言恰好相反。从感性的角度来说，我见证了蔚来的产品从无到有，并陪着它交付到快两万辆，我对产品既了解也有信心。此外，我很认可李斌，这是一个核心因素，信心始终都在，无非是等它回血的时间比较难熬。</p>\n<p>如果说完全没有赌的成分肯定是假话，我当时也买了特斯拉，但蔚来比例更多。这个企业难道真的就只值一块多美元？不可能，只是因为产品的交付量或者其他原因，我愿意拿自己的钱去试一下。</p>\n<p>从理性的角度来说，我知道管理团队做事是有逻辑和打法的。无论是产品制造端还是用户口碑，我们都有信心能把这件事情做成。我与很多蔚来车主相熟，他们在购车之后也买了蔚来的股票。最后，从投资的角度看，那个价格有很大增长空间。</p>\n<p>当时我身边有许多朋友，既不是蔚来员工也不是车主，但大家都认可在那个时间点买入。现在一年过去了，基本上都至少赚回了一辆车钱，大家也都买了蔚来的车。</p>\n<p>从一块多到现在，蔚来目前的股价是它应得的，因为交付量一直都在上涨。原来在公司天天熬夜工作，真的是凭信仰在加班。我们在一块多买入的人，也是用信仰在买。大家也不会卖，就长期持有，除非有其他事情，就是单纯地想支持李斌。</p>\n<p>对我来说，过去一年时间里，暴涨带来的波动并不大，印象深刻的是受疫情影响美股发生熔断。熔断发生后，父母不断劝我清仓，因为几乎每一天都在亏损，最开始是利润没有了，后期本金也保不住了。但我坚持住没有卖，事实证明一切终究会过去的。</p>\n<p>我无法准确地预估蔚来的股价会涨到多少，但我觉得只要股价能够匹配其业绩和毛利率，就是合理的。当然站在投资者的角度，我肯定希望这些指标能不断增长。但整体来说，我还算是个比较冷静的人。<b>我从未想过能以此一夜暴富，但我觉得蔚来股票会带着90后、95后这些新一代汽车人富起来</b>。</p>\n<p><b>03</b></p>\n<p><b>“有人从20万美元炒到200万，最后又悉数奉还”</b></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e37515eb7585eaf12e9c1723499eb3c5\" tg-width=\"960\" tg-height=\"540\"></p>\n<p>我之前炒A股很多年，但接触美股只有一年半的时间。不过，很久之前，蔚来的股票曾经一天暴涨100个点，那时我就关注过蔚来。我明显地感觉到，这家公司的股价很有潜力。</p>\n<p>现在来看，我认为蔚来的目标价是100美元，对应的市值为1000亿美元左右。蔚来股价极有可能涨到这个数字，只不过在此之前，蔚来需要时间，因为这个行业还不够成熟。</p>\n<p>如果把蔚来简单理解为一家造车公司，与BBA（奔驰、宝马、奥迪）等公司对标，那它还无法支撑这个估值。但如果把它当作科技公司，就有很大的想象空间。因为从目前蔚来所处的环境来看，国家层面一直在推进新能源车发展，特斯拉的崛起正是因为得到了政府的支持。</p>\n<p>在所有美股中，从成交量来看，蔚来也越来越像特斯拉。特斯拉的影响力，也会给蔚来和其他造车新势力带来一些关注。许多人会因为错过了特斯拉，而选择蔚来（因为蔚来大家都能买得起，特斯拉价格太高，不是每个人都能买得起）。从这个角度来看，蔚来股价也极有可能会涨到100美元，哪怕它的估值可能虚高了。</p>\n<p>现在回头来看，蔚来已经是超十倍股票，不过实现五六倍的人比较多。因为这期间发生了太多状况，有几次市场上出现大幅波动，舆论噪音也比较多。因此，真正能从头到尾持仓的人非常少。</p>\n<p><b>这是对人性的一种巨大考验，当你身处其中，真的很难沉住气。交学费在所难免，有人从20万美元炒到200万美元，最后又悉数奉还。</b></p>\n<p>今年从拿到合肥市政府的投资开始，蔚来股价才发生巨大转变。在此之前，有专业团队抛售蔚来股票，不是机构看错了，而是因为担心巨大的风险，不同机构的交易体系承受能力各不相同。</p>\n<p>另一方面，如果蔚来股票涨了十个点要不要卖，这对人性也是一种考验。人总是更想守住挣到的钱，因为你无法预知明天是涨是跌，无法知道意外和明天哪个会先来。</p>\n<p>对我来说，令我受益最多的股票是特斯拉。很长一段时间，我不喜欢买蔚来的股票，因为我喜欢高频交易，它的交易成本太高。在蔚来这支股票上，我并没有多少遗憾，但确实不够专注。<b>每天都在市场上游走的人，难免错过许多好机会，更重要的是如何能捕捉到下一个。</b></p>\n<p><b>04</b></p>\n<p><b>在“山顶”加仓，“吃到一部分蛋糕”就够了</b></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9f4a214cf52386c12d0b35bafda80f68\" tg-width=\"960\" tg-height=\"540\"></p>\n<p>去年10月刚接触美股时，我买的两支股票一直在亏钱。今年3月美股股崩，当时所有的专家都预测还会再跌，但到底是V型反转还是W型发展，没人能知道。在蔚来股价3块多美元的时候，我开始做短线投资，资金也不隔夜，因为担心股崩还没有结束。<b>直到6月底，我才以7.5美元的价格建仓蔚来，又在15美元和16美元的时候分别加仓一次，一直持有到现在，差不多赚了20多万美元（约合人民币134.1万元）。</b></p>\n<p>一年之间，蔚来从“最惨的”新能源车企，变为炙手可热的新造车品牌。转折点在今年4月，合肥宣布注资70亿人民币，给大家注入了很多信心。今年6月，蔚来以5.97美元的价格发行了6000万股美国存托股票(ADS)，当时<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00700\">腾讯</a>增持了168万股。这两件事令蔚来的股票彻底起死回生，基本面也发生了质的改变。同时，蔚来也很争气，交付量一直创新高。</p>\n<p>乐观估计，今年蔚来的交付量可以达到4万-5万辆，这大概是特斯拉2015年的销量水平。当时特斯拉的股价在37-45美元之间徘徊。到2016年，特斯拉的销量约为7.6万辆，市值500亿美元，股价在45-55美元之间。所以说<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/JPM\">摩根大通</a>给出蔚来40美元的目标价，是有理由的。</p>\n<p>其实去年刚开始炒股时，我就买了特斯拉，但一买一卖之间，因为手续费一下子亏了2000美元，吓坏了我，从此就跟特斯拉无缘了。之所以关注到蔚来，是因为家里有三位亲戚买了四辆蔚来的汽车。然后我就开始买蔚来的股票，并坚定持有。</p>\n<p>去年年初，因为现金流告急、车辆召回等诸多困境，蔚来陷入谷底。但是情况越糟糕，买蔚来股票的人越加仓，平均成本只有2美元，我亲戚买了近10万股，<b>回报非常丰厚。</b>反过来说，如果蔚来什么困难都没有，我们也没有抄底的机会。</p>\n<p>前后几次加仓，我都加在“山顶上”，但我觉得如果长期看好一家公司，差一块两块没有太大影响。在我的“安利”下，身边的几个好朋友在蔚来股价7美元左右时，也都买入了，到目前为止大家都赚了钱，许多外国投资者也关注到了这支股票。</p>\n<p>我记得李斌在北大读书时学的专业是社会学，他真的很聪明，深谙用户需求，蔚来的各种服务或者说“小恩小惠”，极大地愉悦了用户。用李斌的话描述，就是买了蔚来的车，大家的关系才刚刚开始。所以，在蔚来的订单里，有60%来自老车主推荐，这一点做得非常好。</p>\n<p>蔚来股价从最低时的1.19美元，到现在其实已经翻了十几倍。在此过程中，我只踩中一部分，并没有赚到全部。<b>但对炒股的人来说，能吃到一部分蛋糕，就已经很不错了。</b></p>\n<p>（应受访者要求，文中人物为化名）</p>","source":"lsy1578367390233","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" 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未来汽车Daily</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>有人一夜暴富，也有人颗粒无收。\n\n10月28日，欧美股市全线崩溃。据Wind数据，截至收盘，美股三大指数集体暴跌。道指和标普500指数均创6月11日以来最大单日跌幅。\n难以估量的巨额财富随之蒸发，无数投资者彻夜难眠。但对于长期行走在股市里的人而言，或许早习以为常。\n在美股市场中，有一群特殊的股民。他们被创始人的人格魅力折服，坚信其未来能够比肩特斯拉，在股价最低谷时果断抄底，与这家公司共同创造了一场...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Kj2GVeabGE4eHGkmXwbOXQ\">网页链接</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1e9aa56586a03fdd6464e21bfe99f7b5","relate_stocks":{"NIO":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Kj2GVeabGE4eHGkmXwbOXQ","is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1182412395","content_text":"有人一夜暴富，也有人颗粒无收。\n\n10月28日，欧美股市全线崩溃。据Wind数据，截至收盘，美股三大指数集体暴跌。道指和标普500指数均创6月11日以来最大单日跌幅。\n难以估量的巨额财富随之蒸发，无数投资者彻夜难眠。但对于长期行走在股市里的人而言，或许早习以为常。\n在美股市场中，有一群特殊的股民。他们被创始人的人格魅力折服，坚信其未来能够比肩特斯拉，在股价最低谷时果断抄底，与这家公司共同创造了一场财富奇迹。\n故事的主角就是蔚来与它的股民们。\n今年以来，蔚来股价累计涨幅达560%。如果从去年10月2日的最低价1.19美元算起，蔚来在过去一年里涨幅高达2126%，总市值达373.99亿美元。9月29日，蔚来股价一鼓作气冲上20美元，之后更是在10月14日和15日，单日股价涨幅超过28%，逼近30美元。\n\n数据来源：老虎证券\n那些与特斯拉狂飙突进的股价失之交臂的人们，将精力和目光转向蔚来。在这片流传着各种版本造富故事的欲望土地里，有一夜暴富，也不乏悲情与懊悔。\n有95后年轻人敢于冒险，暴跌时买入，不久后便实现了财务自由；有人因为炒蔚来股票狂赚200万美元（约合人民币1341.7万元）；也有人获益近十倍赚得千万，未及时抽身，又将全部收益如数奉还，从此退出炒股江湖。\n粗略计算，即便没有在股价最低点抄底蔚来，仅过去一年，蔚来也成为了超十倍股。“随便买入都能翻倍，”在一位散户看来，“这是一个傻子都能赚钱的机会”。不过理性的投资者认为，这终究是一个掺杂着运气与赌博的游戏，能将十倍股全部拿下的人少之又少。更重要的是，无论是站在波峰还是跌入谷底，“都要坚定地支持蔚来”。\n未来汽车日报采访了四位抄底蔚来股票的投资者，听他们分享自己的造富经历。以下为受访者口述（经未来汽车日报整理）。\n01\n从10万人民币加到10万美元，“支持一下这个男人”\n\n接触蔚来之前，我是一个纯粹的小白，从没有碰过股票，也很反感炒股，一直觉得这是一件不务正业的事情。直到前男友拿着我的200万人民币炒股，突然在某一天亏掉100多万，我才开始关注股市信息。\n当时看了一圈，也不知道买哪个。后来想起曾在朋友圈刷到的那篇《蔚来李斌，2019年最惨的人》，那是我第一次知道蔚来。因为同是创业者，看完文章后有种心有戚戚焉的感觉，被其中很多情节触动。我比较老实，属于经常吃亏的那种人，所以引起很多共情。当时我就想，不知道买什么那就买蔚来，支持一下这个男人。\n买股票其实看的也是公司创始人的人品，在这批新造车里，我调查过多位创始人的背景和性格，很佩服李斌这样的创业前辈，我完全被他的人格魅力所折服。\n刚入手的那段时间里，蔚来股票一直处在横盘阶段，新韭菜什么都不懂，意志并不坚定，很容易被带节奏，跟着舆论或者市场情绪走，慢慢就卖掉了一些。\n直到有一天赶上蔚来股价涨幅比较大，我对这家公司才有了更深入的了解，能感觉到这是一家正在努力成长的企业，也坚定了我投入蔚来的信念。之后我就一直加仓，从10万人民币加到10万美元，重仓蔚来。\n当时有很多人劝我，说买蔚来很难赚到钱，我当时就觉得，不赚钱放在那里也无所谓，如果亏了，就当支持朋友一把。我的想法很简单，选股票就是选公司，就相当于把钱借给它，让它能更好地发展。\n今年6月，我不断向身边的朋友推荐蔚来的股票，但大家都不搭理我，怎么洗脑都没有成功。到8月份，我差不多赚到了一辆蔚来ES8的钱，当时都没来得及试驾体验，就直接订了一辆。下订单之前，我甚至连驾照都没有。但是综合对比了一些参数，我觉得这是一辆诚心实意设计并且为用户考虑的车，买起来也很有安全感。\n小白往往容易撞大运。今年10月13日，原来买的一笔2万美元的期权即将到期作废，前一天已经亏损了95%左右，而且价格偏离太多，根本不可能回本。通常情况下，当下卖掉，还能保住1000、2000美元的本金回血。但当时我抱着要死一起死的心态没有卖，觉得无所谓了，大不了以后再赚回来。结果一夜之间翻盘，赚了3、4万美元。\n现在回想起来，我可能算股民里比较特殊的一个，运气比较好，选的第一支股票就是蔚来。我的心态也比较好，如果把获利全部吐回去，我也能接受。靠运气赚的钱，看得没有那么重。\n我一直坚持唱多蔚来，从一块多到现在，我觉得它的股价不是意料之外的上涨，而是正常的价值回归。我始终认为，蔚来这个品牌，一直被低估。可能在资本市场，看中的就是盈利能力，如果前期没有盈利，就很难被认可。但换个角度去看，如果等到各项数据都转正了，那也不是现在这个价格能买到的。\n现在牌面变得越来越清晰，我其实不懂K线图，也不懂PE、市盈率，但如果中国的汽车企业一定要有个排名，那第一肯定是蔚来。选股票，不买第一买谁？这其实是很简单的决策过程。这也是我们这些新韭菜，能比投资机构以更便宜的价格抄底蔚来的原因吧。\n02\n“熔断发生后，几乎每一天都在亏损”\n\n我是蔚来的前员工。当初去蔚来面试时，我觉得在中国能有企业好好造车其实很难得。大多数企业只看重整车毛利率、纯利润，他们甚至不认为车主会回购，或者推荐朋友购车。但是蔚来成功开拓了这条路。后来，所有人都想模仿，甚至有不少传统主机厂的人，通过各种方式联系我们。\n2019年有许多人离开蔚来，随着蔚来情况好转，今年很多同事又陆续回去了。看到那些唱衰蔚来的文章，我们都非常生气，虽然已经不在蔚来工作了，但是蔚来对我们来说，就像自家的孩子，要打要骂我可以，别人不行。不管怎样，李斌真的是一个非常好的老板，他不只把用户的利益放在第一位，也把员工放在心上，做他的员工很幸福。\n认可蔚来，是我购买蔚来股票的原因。早在2017年，公司就发了期权。2019年8月份，我开了户，到11月蔚来股价跌到一块多美元的时候，我选择买入。虽然当时已经离开了蔚来，但对我来说，无论在职与否，我都看好这家公司，也看好整个赛道。\n如果用一句话总结，它是我掌握能力范围内恒定的一个投资标的物，我看好它一定会涨。在此之前，我从来没有炒过股。\n当时业内有各种唱衰蔚来的说法，我甚至还听过“蔚来倒闭最快就是明天，最晚明年”。不过对我而言恰好相反。从感性的角度来说，我见证了蔚来的产品从无到有，并陪着它交付到快两万辆，我对产品既了解也有信心。此外，我很认可李斌，这是一个核心因素，信心始终都在，无非是等它回血的时间比较难熬。\n如果说完全没有赌的成分肯定是假话，我当时也买了特斯拉，但蔚来比例更多。这个企业难道真的就只值一块多美元？不可能，只是因为产品的交付量或者其他原因，我愿意拿自己的钱去试一下。\n从理性的角度来说，我知道管理团队做事是有逻辑和打法的。无论是产品制造端还是用户口碑，我们都有信心能把这件事情做成。我与很多蔚来车主相熟，他们在购车之后也买了蔚来的股票。最后，从投资的角度看，那个价格有很大增长空间。\n当时我身边有许多朋友，既不是蔚来员工也不是车主，但大家都认可在那个时间点买入。现在一年过去了，基本上都至少赚回了一辆车钱，大家也都买了蔚来的车。\n从一块多到现在，蔚来目前的股价是它应得的，因为交付量一直都在上涨。原来在公司天天熬夜工作，真的是凭信仰在加班。我们在一块多买入的人，也是用信仰在买。大家也不会卖，就长期持有，除非有其他事情，就是单纯地想支持李斌。\n对我来说，过去一年时间里，暴涨带来的波动并不大，印象深刻的是受疫情影响美股发生熔断。熔断发生后，父母不断劝我清仓，因为几乎每一天都在亏损，最开始是利润没有了，后期本金也保不住了。但我坚持住没有卖，事实证明一切终究会过去的。\n我无法准确地预估蔚来的股价会涨到多少，但我觉得只要股价能够匹配其业绩和毛利率，就是合理的。当然站在投资者的角度，我肯定希望这些指标能不断增长。但整体来说，我还算是个比较冷静的人。我从未想过能以此一夜暴富，但我觉得蔚来股票会带着90后、95后这些新一代汽车人富起来。\n03\n“有人从20万美元炒到200万，最后又悉数奉还”\n\n我之前炒A股很多年，但接触美股只有一年半的时间。不过，很久之前，蔚来的股票曾经一天暴涨100个点，那时我就关注过蔚来。我明显地感觉到，这家公司的股价很有潜力。\n现在来看，我认为蔚来的目标价是100美元，对应的市值为1000亿美元左右。蔚来股价极有可能涨到这个数字，只不过在此之前，蔚来需要时间，因为这个行业还不够成熟。\n如果把蔚来简单理解为一家造车公司，与BBA（奔驰、宝马、奥迪）等公司对标，那它还无法支撑这个估值。但如果把它当作科技公司，就有很大的想象空间。因为从目前蔚来所处的环境来看，国家层面一直在推进新能源车发展，特斯拉的崛起正是因为得到了政府的支持。\n在所有美股中，从成交量来看，蔚来也越来越像特斯拉。特斯拉的影响力，也会给蔚来和其他造车新势力带来一些关注。许多人会因为错过了特斯拉，而选择蔚来（因为蔚来大家都能买得起，特斯拉价格太高，不是每个人都能买得起）。从这个角度来看，蔚来股价也极有可能会涨到100美元，哪怕它的估值可能虚高了。\n现在回头来看，蔚来已经是超十倍股票，不过实现五六倍的人比较多。因为这期间发生了太多状况，有几次市场上出现大幅波动，舆论噪音也比较多。因此，真正能从头到尾持仓的人非常少。\n这是对人性的一种巨大考验，当你身处其中，真的很难沉住气。交学费在所难免，有人从20万美元炒到200万美元，最后又悉数奉还。\n今年从拿到合肥市政府的投资开始，蔚来股价才发生巨大转变。在此之前，有专业团队抛售蔚来股票，不是机构看错了，而是因为担心巨大的风险，不同机构的交易体系承受能力各不相同。\n另一方面，如果蔚来股票涨了十个点要不要卖，这对人性也是一种考验。人总是更想守住挣到的钱，因为你无法预知明天是涨是跌，无法知道意外和明天哪个会先来。\n对我来说，令我受益最多的股票是特斯拉。很长一段时间，我不喜欢买蔚来的股票，因为我喜欢高频交易，它的交易成本太高。在蔚来这支股票上，我并没有多少遗憾，但确实不够专注。每天都在市场上游走的人，难免错过许多好机会，更重要的是如何能捕捉到下一个。\n04\n在“山顶”加仓，“吃到一部分蛋糕”就够了\n\n去年10月刚接触美股时，我买的两支股票一直在亏钱。今年3月美股股崩，当时所有的专家都预测还会再跌，但到底是V型反转还是W型发展，没人能知道。在蔚来股价3块多美元的时候，我开始做短线投资，资金也不隔夜，因为担心股崩还没有结束。直到6月底，我才以7.5美元的价格建仓蔚来，又在15美元和16美元的时候分别加仓一次，一直持有到现在，差不多赚了20多万美元（约合人民币134.1万元）。\n一年之间，蔚来从“最惨的”新能源车企，变为炙手可热的新造车品牌。转折点在今年4月，合肥宣布注资70亿人民币，给大家注入了很多信心。今年6月，蔚来以5.97美元的价格发行了6000万股美国存托股票(ADS)，当时腾讯增持了168万股。这两件事令蔚来的股票彻底起死回生，基本面也发生了质的改变。同时，蔚来也很争气，交付量一直创新高。\n乐观估计，今年蔚来的交付量可以达到4万-5万辆，这大概是特斯拉2015年的销量水平。当时特斯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