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2020-02-24

$老虎证券(TIGR)$今天刚买的，看见这一小时软件乱七八糟的，立马卖了

2021-07-23

$新东方(EDU)$我这是为教育事业捐躯了么

2021-07-20

$新东方-S(09901)$ 奇怪，我们这里新东方照样上着暑假班，怎么股票跌成这样

2019-12-11

$老虎证券(TIGR)$老夫预见马上要涨

2020-08-21

$拼多多(PDD)$ 今天真的上100 了

2020-06-16

$拼多多(PDD)$不拉到千亿级别不罢休呀

2020-05-25

$拼多多(PDD)$美团亏了十几亿人民币，换来一百多亿的营收，可是pdd亏了四十多亿，换来才六十多亿的营收，而且百亿补贴换用户作用也越来越不明显了

2020-05-22

$拼多多(PDD)$ 按照这套路说不定今天能上70

2021-07-23

那上市了怎么办

抱歉，原内容已删除

2020-07-07

$36氪(KRKR)$ 起飞

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\n　　流利说回应“剩余88天课程仅退费10元”：需扣教材礼品费\n　　1698元买了一年的课程，剩余88天课程申请退费却仅退10元。\n　　2月24日，家长郭女士向澎湃质量报告投诉平台反映称，她于去年5月在流利说英语平台购买了价值1698元的少儿英语幼儿段“AI外教场景课”年课，后因课程效果不佳欲退款，却被告知...</p>\n\n<a href=\"http://stock.eastmoney.com/a/202102261823406775.html\">网页链接</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/95a52bac654e212de5e6a737e01fc5ff","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"http://stock.eastmoney.com/a/202102261823406775.html","is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2114946376","content_text":"原标题：流利说回应“剩余88天课程仅退费10元”：需扣教材礼品费\r\n            \n　　流利说回应“剩余88天课程仅退费10元”：需扣教材礼品费\n　　1698元买了一年的课程，剩余88天课程申请退费却仅退10元。\n　　2月24日，家长郭女士向澎湃质量报告投诉平台反映称，她于去年5月在流利说英语平台购买了价值1698元的少儿英语幼儿段“AI外教场景课”年课，后因课程效果不佳欲退款，却被告知剩余的88天课程只能退费10元，郭女士认为平台的退费计算方法及相关规定过于霸道不合理。\n　　客服称退费需扣除教材费和礼品费，仅退还10元。 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