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tp
2020-07-28
理想就算了吧
@Mike Portnoy:看见很多人拿理想、蔚来来对比。但99%的人都不知道的事实是……
tp
2020-04-30
哈哈哈是的，从来不考虑特斯拉，直接提蔚来
抱歉，原内容已删除
tp
2020-01-18
model3太小了，太素了
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tp
2020-01-01
呵呵。。。
抱歉，原内容已删除
tp
2019-11-28
$蔚来(NIO)$
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