Boeing Needs A Turning Point

Seeking Alpha2021-10-15

Summary Q3 revenues not expected to show any sequential improvement. Cash flow situation needs to improve as interest rates rise. Stock falls below 50-day moving average. nycshooter/iStock ...

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wywy
2021-10-17
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This is a business that is almost without competition. Only competitor is Airbus. China also have their own, but it will take while to gain trust. Only issue now is the air travel. But think again, Boeing is also into Space travel[开心] [开心]
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2021-10-15
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2021-10-15
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Recover pls

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Reports out in the morning were that the company was&nbsp;facing a new defecton the 787 Dreamliner, with this plane's increasing issues providing a major headwind for the company's results. With the stock also falling below a key moving average today, sentiment is rather poor currently, so investors are hoping that this month's earnings report can be a turning point for shares.<blockquote>尽管美国市场周四全面上涨，但航空航天巨头波音公司(BA)却没有起飞。早上有报道称，该公司在787梦想飞机上面临新的叛逃，这架飞机越来越多的问题给公司的业绩带来了重大阻力。由于该股今天也跌破了关键移动平均线，目前市场情绪相当糟糕，因此投资者希望本月的收益报告能够成为股价的转折点。</blockquote> For Q3, total commercial deliveries rose by 6 planes sequentially, as a nice jump in the 737 was mostly offset by the stoppage in 787 deliveries. While the commercial division did show some progress, the defense, space, and security program did not, seeing deliveries decline from 43 to 37. The graphic below shows an overall breakdown of quarterly deliveries.<blockquote>第三季度，商业交付总量环比增加了6架，因为737的大幅增长大部分被787交付的停滞所抵消。虽然商业部门确实取得了一些进展，但国防、太空和安全项目却没有，交付量从43份下降到37份。下图显示了季度交付量的总体细分。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ad8674a1586b344b853c7cc42ed05fdd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"504\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Q2 report and Q3 report<blockquote>资料来源：第二季度报告和第三季度报告</blockquote> The company is scheduled to report third quarter results on October 27th. Currently, the&nbsp;street is looking&nbsp;for $17.01 billion in revenue, which would be growth of nearly 20.3% over the prior-year period. The problem though is that estimate has come down quite a bit, as going into this year the average Q3 street forecast called for $20.26 billion, and just three and a half months ago the Q3 average was north of $21.55 billion.<blockquote>该公司定于10月27日公布第三季度业绩。目前，华尔街预计收入为170.1亿美元，比去年同期增长近20.3%。但问题是，这一估计已经下降了很多，因为今年第三季度华尔街的平均预测为202.6亿美元，而就在三个半月前，第三季度的平均预测为215.5亿美元以上。</blockquote> Q3 estimates have come so much that the current average basically calls for revenues to be flat as compared to&nbsp;Q2 of this year. As the chart below shows, it's been a slow rebound from the pandemic low, and if the 787's problems aren't fixed soon, we may not get back to Q1 2019 levels until late next year, which is a lot later than many were hoping for in recent quarters.<blockquote>第三季度的预期如此之大，以至于目前的平均收入评级与今年第二季度相比基本持平。如下图所示，从大流行低点缓慢反弹，如果787的问题不能很快得到解决，我们可能要到明年年底才能恢复到2019年第一季度的水平，这比许多人希望的要晚得多。最近几个季度。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/38a2872032f034b5dfb4b80cdb981925\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"398\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Boeing analyst estimates page<blockquote>资料来源：波音分析师预估页面</blockquote> The company is working its way back to sustainable profitability, but it really needs the top line to take off for that situation to be certain. I will be very curious to hear management's commentary on inflation pressures during the conference call, and how the supply chain is holding up into Q4. Don't forget, Boeing took on a lot of debt to get through the pandemic, so higher interest costs are limiting potential profits as compared to pre-virus levels.<blockquote>该公司正在努力恢复可持续盈利能力，但它确实需要营收腾飞才能确定这种情况。我很想听听管理层对电话会议期间通胀压力的评论，以及供应链在第四季度的表现如何。别忘了，波音公司为了度过疫情而承担了大量债务，因此与病毒爆发前的水平相比，更高的利息成本限制了潜在利润。</blockquote> Perhaps one turning point that could help shares if is Boeing is finally able to be free cash flow positive again. Q2's cash burn was the lowest we've seen in a couple of years, but the net debt pile still increased by $562 million for that three-month period. As the chart below shows, Boeing's net borrowings pile has skyrocketed by nearly $37 billion over the last 10 quarters.<blockquote>如果波音公司最终能够再次实现正自由现金流，也许一个可以帮助股价的转折点。第二季度的现金消耗是几年来最低的，但净债务在这三个月内仍然增加了5.62亿美元。如下图所示，波音公司的净借款在过去10个季度飙升了近370亿美元。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/78c1dfd92820470870fc6a60c4aa5617\" tg-width=\"588\" tg-height=\"404\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Company filings<blockquote>资料来源：公司备案</blockquote> The debt situation gets even more interesting with the potential for the Federal Reserve to start tapering next month. While yields have come down the past couple of days, the 10-Year US Treasury yield is still up more than 60 basis points so far this year. Until Boeing can get its debt pile down in a meaningful way, rising interest rates could further add to interest expenses if the company has to refinance its large debts that are coming due overtime at higher rates.<blockquote>随着美联储下个月可能开始缩减规模，债务状况变得更加有趣。尽管过去几天收益率有所下降，但今年迄今为止，10年期美国国债收益率仍上涨了60多个基点。在波音公司能够以有意义的方式减少债务之前，如果该公司不得不以更高的利率为加班到期的巨额债务进行再融资，利率上升可能会进一步增加利息支出。</blockquote> Currently, the&nbsp;average price target&nbsp;on the street is more than $272, implying about 25% upside from current levels. However, the stock has been in a general downtrend in recent months, and it lost the 50-day moving average (pink line below) on Thursday. With the stock below that key technical level as well as the 200-day (purple line), falling moving averages could add some technical selling pressure in the short term.<blockquote>目前，华尔街的平均目标价超过272美元，这意味着较当前水平上涨约25%。然而，该股近几个月来一直处于普遍下跌趋势，周四失守50日均线（下方粉色线）。由于该股低于关键技术水平以及200日线（紫线），移动平均线的下跌可能会在短期内增加一些技术性抛售压力。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5967de5e756a7557b3725e12eb512cbf\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"248\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Yahoo! Finance<blockquote>来源：雅虎！金融</blockquote> It's been a rather disappointing year so far for Boeing, so investors are hoping that the Q3 earnings report in a couple of weeks can start to turn things around. Problems with the 787 and 737 programs have led revenue estimates for 2021 to fall by more than $4.5 billion so far this year, pushing back the full revenue recovery timeline deep into 2022. Perhaps Boeing can get back to positive free cash flow soon so that it can start getting its debt pile down in the coming years, which would certainly help efforts to return to sustainable profitability. On Thursday, shares lost the 50-day moving average, only adding to the negative sentiment surrounding the name. Analysts think this stock can rally 25% from here, but Boeing needs a major turning point for that to happen.<blockquote>到目前为止，对于波音公司来说，这是相当令人失望的一年，因此投资者希望几周后的第三季度收益报告能够开始扭转局面。787和737项目的问题导致今年迄今为止2021年的收入预期下降了超过45亿美元，将收入完全恢复的时间表推迟到2022年。也许波音公司可以很快恢复正自由现金流，以便在未来几年开始减少债务，这肯定有助于恢复可持续盈利能力。周四，股价跌破50日移动平均线，这只会加剧围绕该名称的负面情绪。分析师认为该股可能会在此基础上上涨25%，但波音公司需要一个重大转折点才能实现这一目标。</blockquote>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Boeing Needs A Turning Point<blockquote>波音需要一个转折点</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nBoeing Needs A Turning Point<blockquote>波音需要一个转折点</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\nSeeking Alpha2021-10-15 18:01\n\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\nSummary<blockquote>总结</blockquote> <ul> <li>Q3 revenues not expected to show any sequential improvement.</li> <li>Cash flow situation needs to improve as interest rates rise.</li> <li>Stock falls below 50-day moving average.</li> </ul> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1dd93b22a4403e1e6f0036a169f42dba\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">nycshooter/iStock Unreleased via Getty Images<blockquote><ul><li>第三季度收入预计不会出现任何环比改善。</li><li>随着利率上升，现金流状况需要改善。</li><li>股票跌破50日移动平均线。</li></ul>nycshooter/iStock未通过Getty Images发布</blockquote> While US markets were rallying across the board on Thursday, one name not taking off was aerospace giant Boeing (BA). Reports out in the morning were that the company was&nbsp;facing a new defecton the 787 Dreamliner, with this plane's increasing issues providing a major headwind for the company's results. With the stock also falling below a key moving average today, sentiment is rather poor currently, so investors are hoping that this month's earnings report can be a turning point for shares.<blockquote>尽管美国市场周四全面上涨，但航空航天巨头波音公司(BA)却没有起飞。早上有报道称，该公司在787梦想飞机上面临新的叛逃，这架飞机越来越多的问题给公司的业绩带来了重大阻力。由于该股今天也跌破了关键移动平均线，目前市场情绪相当糟糕，因此投资者希望本月的收益报告能够成为股价的转折点。</blockquote> For Q3, total commercial deliveries rose by 6 planes sequentially, as a nice jump in the 737 was mostly offset by the stoppage in 787 deliveries. While the commercial division did show some progress, the defense, space, and security program did not, seeing deliveries decline from 43 to 37. The graphic below shows an overall breakdown of quarterly deliveries.<blockquote>第三季度，商业交付总量环比增加了6架，因为737的大幅增长大部分被787交付的停滞所抵消。虽然商业部门确实取得了一些进展，但国防、太空和安全项目却没有，交付量从43份下降到37份。下图显示了季度交付量的总体细分。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ad8674a1586b344b853c7cc42ed05fdd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"504\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Q2 report and Q3 report<blockquote>资料来源：第二季度报告和第三季度报告</blockquote> The company is scheduled to report third quarter results on October 27th. Currently, the&nbsp;street is looking&nbsp;for $17.01 billion in revenue, which would be growth of nearly 20.3% over the prior-year period. The problem though is that estimate has come down quite a bit, as going into this year the average Q3 street forecast called for $20.26 billion, and just three and a half months ago the Q3 average was north of $21.55 billion.<blockquote>该公司定于10月27日公布第三季度业绩。目前，华尔街预计收入为170.1亿美元，比去年同期增长近20.3%。但问题是，这一估计已经下降了很多，因为今年第三季度华尔街的平均预测为202.6亿美元，而就在三个半月前，第三季度的平均预测为215.5亿美元以上。</blockquote> Q3 estimates have come so much that the current average basically calls for revenues to be flat as compared to&nbsp;Q2 of this year. As the chart below shows, it's been a slow rebound from the pandemic low, and if the 787's problems aren't fixed soon, we may not get back to Q1 2019 levels until late next year, which is a lot later than many were hoping for in recent quarters.<blockquote>第三季度的预期如此之大，以至于目前的平均收入评级与今年第二季度相比基本持平。如下图所示，从大流行低点缓慢反弹，如果787的问题不能很快得到解决，我们可能要到明年年底才能恢复到2019年第一季度的水平，这比许多人希望的要晚得多。最近几个季度。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/38a2872032f034b5dfb4b80cdb981925\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"398\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Boeing analyst estimates page<blockquote>资料来源：波音分析师预估页面</blockquote> The company is working its way back to sustainable profitability, but it really needs the top line to take off for that situation to be certain. I will be very curious to hear management's commentary on inflation pressures during the conference call, and how the supply chain is holding up into Q4. Don't forget, Boeing took on a lot of debt to get through the pandemic, so higher interest costs are limiting potential profits as compared to pre-virus levels.<blockquote>该公司正在努力恢复可持续盈利能力，但它确实需要营收腾飞才能确定这种情况。我很想听听管理层对电话会议期间通胀压力的评论，以及供应链在第四季度的表现如何。别忘了，波音公司为了度过疫情而承担了大量债务，因此与病毒爆发前的水平相比，更高的利息成本限制了潜在利润。</blockquote> Perhaps one turning point that could help shares if is Boeing is finally able to be free cash flow positive again. Q2's cash burn was the lowest we've seen in a couple of years, but the net debt pile still increased by $562 million for that three-month period. As the chart below shows, Boeing's net borrowings pile has skyrocketed by nearly $37 billion over the last 10 quarters.<blockquote>如果波音公司最终能够再次实现正自由现金流，也许一个可以帮助股价的转折点。第二季度的现金消耗是几年来最低的，但净债务在这三个月内仍然增加了5.62亿美元。如下图所示，波音公司的净借款在过去10个季度飙升了近370亿美元。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/78c1dfd92820470870fc6a60c4aa5617\" tg-width=\"588\" tg-height=\"404\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Company filings<blockquote>资料来源：公司备案</blockquote> The debt situation gets even more interesting with the potential for the Federal Reserve to start tapering next month. While yields have come down the past couple of days, the 10-Year US Treasury yield is still up more than 60 basis points so far this year. Until Boeing can get its debt pile down in a meaningful way, rising interest rates could further add to interest expenses if the company has to refinance its large debts that are coming due overtime at higher rates.<blockquote>随着美联储下个月可能开始缩减规模，债务状况变得更加有趣。尽管过去几天收益率有所下降，但今年迄今为止，10年期美国国债收益率仍上涨了60多个基点。在波音公司能够以有意义的方式减少债务之前，如果该公司不得不以更高的利率为加班到期的巨额债务进行再融资，利率上升可能会进一步增加利息支出。</blockquote> Currently, the&nbsp;average price target&nbsp;on the street is more than $272, implying about 25% upside from current levels. However, the stock has been in a general downtrend in recent months, and it lost the 50-day moving average (pink line below) on Thursday. With the stock below that key technical level as well as the 200-day (purple line), falling moving averages could add some technical selling pressure in the short term.<blockquote>目前，华尔街的平均目标价超过272美元，这意味着较当前水平上涨约25%。然而，该股近几个月来一直处于普遍下跌趋势，周四失守50日均线（下方粉色线）。由于该股低于关键技术水平以及200日线（紫线），移动平均线的下跌可能会在短期内增加一些技术性抛售压力。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5967de5e756a7557b3725e12eb512cbf\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"248\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Yahoo! Finance<blockquote>来源：雅虎！金融</blockquote> It's been a rather disappointing year so far for Boeing, so investors are hoping that the Q3 earnings report in a couple of weeks can start to turn things around. Problems with the 787 and 737 programs have led revenue estimates for 2021 to fall by more than $4.5 billion so far this year, pushing back the full revenue recovery timeline deep into 2022. Perhaps Boeing can get back to positive free cash flow soon so that it can start getting its debt pile down in the coming years, which would certainly help efforts to return to sustainable profitability. On Thursday, shares lost the 50-day moving average, only adding to the negative sentiment surrounding the name. Analysts think this stock can rally 25% from here, but Boeing needs a major turning point for that to happen.<blockquote>到目前为止，对于波音公司来说，这是相当令人失望的一年，因此投资者希望几周后的第三季度收益报告能够开始扭转局面。787和737项目的问题导致今年迄今为止2021年的收入预期下降了超过45亿美元，将收入完全恢复的时间表推迟到2022年。也许波音公司可以很快恢复正自由现金流，以便在未来几年开始减少债务，这肯定有助于恢复可持续盈利能力。周四，股价跌破50日移动平均线，这只会加剧围绕该名称的负面情绪。分析师认为该股可能会在此基础上上涨25%，但波音公司需要一个重大转折点才能实现这一目标。</blockquote>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n 来源：<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4459975-boeing-needs-a-turning-point\">Seeking Alpha</a>\n为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BA":"波音"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4459975-boeing-needs-a-turning-point","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1153341118","content_text":"Summary\n\nQ3 revenues not expected to show any sequential improvement.\nCash flow situation needs to improve as interest rates rise.\nStock falls below 50-day moving average.\n\nnycshooter/iStock Unreleased via Getty Images\nWhile US markets were rallying across the board on Thursday, one name not taking off was aerospace giant Boeing (BA). Reports out in the morning were that the company was facing a new defecton the 787 Dreamliner, with this plane's increasing issues providing a major headwind for the company's results. With the stock also falling below a key moving average today, sentiment is rather poor currently, so investors are hoping that this month's earnings report can be a turning point for shares.\nFor Q3, total commercial deliveries rose by 6 planes sequentially, as a nice jump in the 737 was mostly offset by the stoppage in 787 deliveries. While the commercial division did show some progress, the defense, space, and security program did not, seeing deliveries decline from 43 to 37. The graphic below shows an overall breakdown of quarterly deliveries.\nSource: Q2 report and Q3 report\nThe company is scheduled to report third quarter results on October 27th. Currently, the street is looking for $17.01 billion in revenue, which would be growth of nearly 20.3% over the prior-year period. The problem though is that estimate has come down quite a bit, as going into this year the average Q3 street forecast called for $20.26 billion, and just three and a half months ago the Q3 average was north of $21.55 billion.\nQ3 estimates have come so much that the current average basically calls for revenues to be flat as compared to Q2 of this year. As the chart below shows, it's been a slow rebound from the pandemic low, and if the 787's problems aren't fixed soon, we may not get back to Q1 2019 levels until late next year, which is a lot later than many were hoping for in recent quarters.\nSource: Boeing analyst estimates page\nThe company is working its way back to sustainable profitability, but it really needs the top line to take off for that situation to be certain. I will be very curious to hear management's commentary on inflation pressures during the conference call, and how the supply chain is holding up into Q4. Don't forget, Boeing took on a lot of debt to get through the pandemic, so higher interest costs are limiting potential profits as compared to pre-virus levels.\nPerhaps one turning point that could help shares if is Boeing is finally able to be free cash flow positive again. Q2's cash burn was the lowest we've seen in a couple of years, but the net debt pile still increased by $562 million for that three-month period. As the chart below shows, Boeing's net borrowings pile has skyrocketed by nearly $37 billion over the last 10 quarters.\nSource: Company filings\nThe debt situation gets even more interesting with the potential for the Federal Reserve to start tapering next month. While yields have come down the past couple of days, the 10-Year US Treasury yield is still up more than 60 basis points so far this year. Until Boeing can get its debt pile down in a meaningful way, rising interest rates could further add to interest expenses if the company has to refinance its large debts that are coming due overtime at higher rates.\nCurrently, the average price target on the street is more than $272, implying about 25% upside from current levels. However, the stock has been in a general downtrend in recent months, and it lost the 50-day moving average (pink line below) on Thursday. With the stock below that key technical level as well as the 200-day (purple line), falling moving averages could add some technical selling pressure in the short term.\nSource: Yahoo! Finance\nIt's been a rather disappointing year so far for Boeing, so investors are hoping that the Q3 earnings report in a couple of weeks can start to turn things around. Problems with the 787 and 737 programs have led revenue estimates for 2021 to fall by more than $4.5 billion so far this year, pushing back the full revenue recovery timeline deep into 2022. Perhaps Boeing can get back to positive free cash flow soon so that it can start getting its debt pile down in the coming years, which would certainly help efforts to return to sustainable profitability. On Thursday, shares lost the 50-day moving average, only adding to the negative sentiment surrounding the name. Analysts think this stock can rally 25% from here, but Boeing needs a major turning point for that to happen.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"BA":0.9}},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"CN"},{"id":824156580,"gmtCreate":1634293747618,"gmtModify":1634293747725,"author":{"id":"3561952980381559","authorId":"3561952980381559","name":"LZH93","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dd274730798ffb61043997819bbeaa13","vip":1,"crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"3561952980381559","idStr":"3561952980381559"},"htmlText":"Like","listText":"Like","text":"Like","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/824156580","repostId":1153341118,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1153341118","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1634292095,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1153341118?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-10-15 18:01","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Boeing Needs A Turning Point<blockquote>波音需要一个转折点</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1153341118","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Summary\n\nQ3 revenues not expected to show any sequential improvement.\nCash flow situation needs to i","content":"Summary<blockquote>总结</blockquote> <ul> <li>Q3 revenues not expected to show any sequential improvement.</li> <li>Cash flow situation needs to improve as interest rates rise.</li> <li>Stock falls below 50-day moving average.</li> </ul> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1dd93b22a4403e1e6f0036a169f42dba\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">nycshooter/iStock Unreleased via Getty Images<blockquote><ul><li>第三季度收入预计不会出现任何环比改善。</li><li>随着利率上升，现金流状况需要改善。</li><li>股票跌破50日移动平均线。</li></ul>nycshooter/iStock未通过Getty Images发布</blockquote> While US markets were rallying across the board on Thursday, one name not taking off was aerospace giant Boeing (BA). Reports out in the morning were that the company was&nbsp;facing a new defecton the 787 Dreamliner, with this plane's increasing issues providing a major headwind for the company's results. With the stock also falling below a key moving average today, sentiment is rather poor currently, so investors are hoping that this month's earnings report can be a turning point for shares.<blockquote>尽管美国市场周四全面上涨，但航空航天巨头波音公司(BA)却没有起飞。早上有报道称，该公司在787梦想飞机上面临新的叛逃，这架飞机越来越多的问题给公司的业绩带来了重大阻力。由于该股今天也跌破了关键移动平均线，目前市场情绪相当糟糕，因此投资者希望本月的收益报告能够成为股价的转折点。</blockquote> For Q3, total commercial deliveries rose by 6 planes sequentially, as a nice jump in the 737 was mostly offset by the stoppage in 787 deliveries. While the commercial division did show some progress, the defense, space, and security program did not, seeing deliveries decline from 43 to 37. The graphic below shows an overall breakdown of quarterly deliveries.<blockquote>第三季度，商业交付总量环比增加了6架，因为737的大幅增长大部分被787交付的停滞所抵消。虽然商业部门确实取得了一些进展，但国防、太空和安全项目却没有，交付量从43份下降到37份。下图显示了季度交付量的总体细分。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ad8674a1586b344b853c7cc42ed05fdd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"504\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Q2 report and Q3 report<blockquote>资料来源：第二季度报告和第三季度报告</blockquote> The company is scheduled to report third quarter results on October 27th. Currently, the&nbsp;street is looking&nbsp;for $17.01 billion in revenue, which would be growth of nearly 20.3% over the prior-year period. The problem though is that estimate has come down quite a bit, as going into this year the average Q3 street forecast called for $20.26 billion, and just three and a half months ago the Q3 average was north of $21.55 billion.<blockquote>该公司定于10月27日公布第三季度业绩。目前，华尔街预计收入为170.1亿美元，比去年同期增长近20.3%。但问题是，这一估计已经下降了很多，因为今年第三季度华尔街的平均预测为202.6亿美元，而就在三个半月前，第三季度的平均预测为215.5亿美元以上。</blockquote> Q3 estimates have come so much that the current average basically calls for revenues to be flat as compared to&nbsp;Q2 of this year. As the chart below shows, it's been a slow rebound from the pandemic low, and if the 787's problems aren't fixed soon, we may not get back to Q1 2019 levels until late next year, which is a lot later than many were hoping for in recent quarters.<blockquote>第三季度的预期如此之大，以至于目前的平均收入评级与今年第二季度相比基本持平。如下图所示，从大流行低点缓慢反弹，如果787的问题不能很快得到解决，我们可能要到明年年底才能恢复到2019年第一季度的水平，这比许多人希望的要晚得多。最近几个季度。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/38a2872032f034b5dfb4b80cdb981925\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"398\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Boeing analyst estimates page<blockquote>资料来源：波音分析师预估页面</blockquote> The company is working its way back to sustainable profitability, but it really needs the top line to take off for that situation to be certain. I will be very curious to hear management's commentary on inflation pressures during the conference call, and how the supply chain is holding up into Q4. Don't forget, Boeing took on a lot of debt to get through the pandemic, so higher interest costs are limiting potential profits as compared to pre-virus levels.<blockquote>该公司正在努力恢复可持续盈利能力，但它确实需要营收腾飞才能确定这种情况。我很想听听管理层对电话会议期间通胀压力的评论，以及供应链在第四季度的表现如何。别忘了，波音公司为了度过疫情而承担了大量债务，因此与病毒爆发前的水平相比，更高的利息成本限制了潜在利润。</blockquote> Perhaps one turning point that could help shares if is Boeing is finally able to be free cash flow positive again. Q2's cash burn was the lowest we've seen in a couple of years, but the net debt pile still increased by $562 million for that three-month period. As the chart below shows, Boeing's net borrowings pile has skyrocketed by nearly $37 billion over the last 10 quarters.<blockquote>如果波音公司最终能够再次实现正自由现金流，也许一个可以帮助股价的转折点。第二季度的现金消耗是几年来最低的，但净债务在这三个月内仍然增加了5.62亿美元。如下图所示，波音公司的净借款在过去10个季度飙升了近370亿美元。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/78c1dfd92820470870fc6a60c4aa5617\" tg-width=\"588\" tg-height=\"404\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Company filings<blockquote>资料来源：公司备案</blockquote> The debt situation gets even more interesting with the potential for the Federal Reserve to start tapering next month. While yields have come down the past couple of days, the 10-Year US Treasury yield is still up more than 60 basis points so far this year. Until Boeing can get its debt pile down in a meaningful way, rising interest rates could further add to interest expenses if the company has to refinance its large debts that are coming due overtime at higher rates.<blockquote>随着美联储下个月可能开始缩减规模，债务状况变得更加有趣。尽管过去几天收益率有所下降，但今年迄今为止，10年期美国国债收益率仍上涨了60多个基点。在波音公司能够以有意义的方式减少债务之前，如果该公司不得不以更高的利率为加班到期的巨额债务进行再融资，利率上升可能会进一步增加利息支出。</blockquote> Currently, the&nbsp;average price target&nbsp;on the street is more than $272, implying about 25% upside from current levels. However, the stock has been in a general downtrend in recent months, and it lost the 50-day moving average (pink line below) on Thursday. With the stock below that key technical level as well as the 200-day (purple line), falling moving averages could add some technical selling pressure in the short term.<blockquote>目前，华尔街的平均目标价超过272美元，这意味着较当前水平上涨约25%。然而，该股近几个月来一直处于普遍下跌趋势，周四失守50日均线（下方粉色线）。由于该股低于关键技术水平以及200日线（紫线），移动平均线的下跌可能会在短期内增加一些技术性抛售压力。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5967de5e756a7557b3725e12eb512cbf\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"248\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Yahoo! Finance<blockquote>来源：雅虎！金融</blockquote> It's been a rather disappointing year so far for Boeing, so investors are hoping that the Q3 earnings report in a couple of weeks can start to turn things around. Problems with the 787 and 737 programs have led revenue estimates for 2021 to fall by more than $4.5 billion so far this year, pushing back the full revenue recovery timeline deep into 2022. Perhaps Boeing can get back to positive free cash flow soon so that it can start getting its debt pile down in the coming years, which would certainly help efforts to return to sustainable profitability. On Thursday, shares lost the 50-day moving average, only adding to the negative sentiment surrounding the name. Analysts think this stock can rally 25% from here, but Boeing needs a major turning point for that to happen.<blockquote>到目前为止，对于波音公司来说，这是相当令人失望的一年，因此投资者希望几周后的第三季度收益报告能够开始扭转局面。787和737项目的问题导致今年迄今为止2021年的收入预期下降了超过45亿美元，将收入完全恢复的时间表推迟到2022年。也许波音公司可以很快恢复正自由现金流，以便在未来几年开始减少债务，这肯定有助于恢复可持续盈利能力。周四，股价跌破50日移动平均线，这只会加剧围绕该名称的负面情绪。分析师认为该股可能会在此基础上上涨25%，但波音公司需要一个重大转折点才能实现这一目标。</blockquote>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Boeing Needs A Turning Point<blockquote>波音需要一个转折点</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nBoeing Needs A Turning Point<blockquote>波音需要一个转折点</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\nSeeking Alpha2021-10-15 18:01\n\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\nSummary<blockquote>总结</blockquote> <ul> <li>Q3 revenues not expected to show any sequential improvement.</li> <li>Cash flow situation needs to improve as interest rates rise.</li> <li>Stock falls below 50-day moving average.</li> </ul> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1dd93b22a4403e1e6f0036a169f42dba\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">nycshooter/iStock Unreleased via Getty Images<blockquote><ul><li>第三季度收入预计不会出现任何环比改善。</li><li>随着利率上升，现金流状况需要改善。</li><li>股票跌破50日移动平均线。</li></ul>nycshooter/iStock未通过Getty Images发布</blockquote> While US markets were rallying across the board on Thursday, one name not taking off was aerospace giant Boeing (BA). Reports out in the morning were that the company was&nbsp;facing a new defecton the 787 Dreamliner, with this plane's increasing issues providing a major headwind for the company's results. With the stock also falling below a key moving average today, sentiment is rather poor currently, so investors are hoping that this month's earnings report can be a turning point for shares.<blockquote>尽管美国市场周四全面上涨，但航空航天巨头波音公司(BA)却没有起飞。早上有报道称，该公司在787梦想飞机上面临新的叛逃，这架飞机越来越多的问题给公司的业绩带来了重大阻力。由于该股今天也跌破了关键移动平均线，目前市场情绪相当糟糕，因此投资者希望本月的收益报告能够成为股价的转折点。</blockquote> For Q3, total commercial deliveries rose by 6 planes sequentially, as a nice jump in the 737 was mostly offset by the stoppage in 787 deliveries. While the commercial division did show some progress, the defense, space, and security program did not, seeing deliveries decline from 43 to 37. The graphic below shows an overall breakdown of quarterly deliveries.<blockquote>第三季度，商业交付总量环比增加了6架，因为737的大幅增长大部分被787交付的停滞所抵消。虽然商业部门确实取得了一些进展，但国防、太空和安全项目却没有，交付量从43份下降到37份。下图显示了季度交付量的总体细分。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ad8674a1586b344b853c7cc42ed05fdd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"504\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Q2 report and Q3 report<blockquote>资料来源：第二季度报告和第三季度报告</blockquote> The company is scheduled to report third quarter results on October 27th. Currently, the&nbsp;street is looking&nbsp;for $17.01 billion in revenue, which would be growth of nearly 20.3% over the prior-year period. The problem though is that estimate has come down quite a bit, as going into this year the average Q3 street forecast called for $20.26 billion, and just three and a half months ago the Q3 average was north of $21.55 billion.<blockquote>该公司定于10月27日公布第三季度业绩。目前，华尔街预计收入为170.1亿美元，比去年同期增长近20.3%。但问题是，这一估计已经下降了很多，因为今年第三季度华尔街的平均预测为202.6亿美元，而就在三个半月前，第三季度的平均预测为215.5亿美元以上。</blockquote> Q3 estimates have come so much that the current average basically calls for revenues to be flat as compared to&nbsp;Q2 of this year. As the chart below shows, it's been a slow rebound from the pandemic low, and if the 787's problems aren't fixed soon, we may not get back to Q1 2019 levels until late next year, which is a lot later than many were hoping for in recent quarters.<blockquote>第三季度的预期如此之大，以至于目前的平均收入评级与今年第二季度相比基本持平。如下图所示，从大流行低点缓慢反弹，如果787的问题不能很快得到解决，我们可能要到明年年底才能恢复到2019年第一季度的水平，这比许多人希望的要晚得多。最近几个季度。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/38a2872032f034b5dfb4b80cdb981925\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"398\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Boeing analyst estimates page<blockquote>资料来源：波音分析师预估页面</blockquote> The company is working its way back to sustainable profitability, but it really needs the top line to take off for that situation to be certain. I will be very curious to hear management's commentary on inflation pressures during the conference call, and how the supply chain is holding up into Q4. Don't forget, Boeing took on a lot of debt to get through the pandemic, so higher interest costs are limiting potential profits as compared to pre-virus levels.<blockquote>该公司正在努力恢复可持续盈利能力，但它确实需要营收腾飞才能确定这种情况。我很想听听管理层对电话会议期间通胀压力的评论，以及供应链在第四季度的表现如何。别忘了，波音公司为了度过疫情而承担了大量债务，因此与病毒爆发前的水平相比，更高的利息成本限制了潜在利润。</blockquote> Perhaps one turning point that could help shares if is Boeing is finally able to be free cash flow positive again. Q2's cash burn was the lowest we've seen in a couple of years, but the net debt pile still increased by $562 million for that three-month period. As the chart below shows, Boeing's net borrowings pile has skyrocketed by nearly $37 billion over the last 10 quarters.<blockquote>如果波音公司最终能够再次实现正自由现金流，也许一个可以帮助股价的转折点。第二季度的现金消耗是几年来最低的，但净债务在这三个月内仍然增加了5.62亿美元。如下图所示，波音公司的净借款在过去10个季度飙升了近370亿美元。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/78c1dfd92820470870fc6a60c4aa5617\" tg-width=\"588\" tg-height=\"404\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Company filings<blockquote>资料来源：公司备案</blockquote> The debt situation gets even more interesting with the potential for the Federal Reserve to start tapering next month. While yields have come down the past couple of days, the 10-Year US Treasury yield is still up more than 60 basis points so far this year. Until Boeing can get its debt pile down in a meaningful way, rising interest rates could further add to interest expenses if the company has to refinance its large debts that are coming due overtime at higher rates.<blockquote>随着美联储下个月可能开始缩减规模，债务状况变得更加有趣。尽管过去几天收益率有所下降，但今年迄今为止，10年期美国国债收益率仍上涨了60多个基点。在波音公司能够以有意义的方式减少债务之前，如果该公司不得不以更高的利率为加班到期的巨额债务进行再融资，利率上升可能会进一步增加利息支出。</blockquote> Currently, the&nbsp;average price target&nbsp;on the street is more than $272, implying about 25% upside from current levels. However, the stock has been in a general downtrend in recent months, and it lost the 50-day moving average (pink line below) on Thursday. With the stock below that key technical level as well as the 200-day (purple line), falling moving averages could add some technical selling pressure in the short term.<blockquote>目前，华尔街的平均目标价超过272美元，这意味着较当前水平上涨约25%。然而，该股近几个月来一直处于普遍下跌趋势，周四失守50日均线（下方粉色线）。由于该股低于关键技术水平以及200日线（紫线），移动平均线的下跌可能会在短期内增加一些技术性抛售压力。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5967de5e756a7557b3725e12eb512cbf\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"248\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Yahoo! Finance<blockquote>来源：雅虎！金融</blockquote> It's been a rather disappointing year so far for Boeing, so investors are hoping that the Q3 earnings report in a couple of weeks can start to turn things around. Problems with the 787 and 737 programs have led revenue estimates for 2021 to fall by more than $4.5 billion so far this year, pushing back the full revenue recovery timeline deep into 2022. Perhaps Boeing can get back to positive free cash flow soon so that it can start getting its debt pile down in the coming years, which would certainly help efforts to return to sustainable profitability. On Thursday, shares lost the 50-day moving average, only adding to the negative sentiment surrounding the name. Analysts think this stock can rally 25% from here, but Boeing needs a major turning point for that to happen.<blockquote>到目前为止，对于波音公司来说，这是相当令人失望的一年，因此投资者希望几周后的第三季度收益报告能够开始扭转局面。787和737项目的问题导致今年迄今为止2021年的收入预期下降了超过45亿美元，将收入完全恢复的时间表推迟到2022年。也许波音公司可以很快恢复正自由现金流，以便在未来几年开始减少债务，这肯定有助于恢复可持续盈利能力。周四，股价跌破50日移动平均线，这只会加剧围绕该名称的负面情绪。分析师认为该股可能会在此基础上上涨25%，但波音公司需要一个重大转折点才能实现这一目标。</blockquote>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n 来源：<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4459975-boeing-needs-a-turning-point\">Seeking Alpha</a>\n为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BA":"波音"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4459975-boeing-needs-a-turning-point","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1153341118","content_text":"Summary\n\nQ3 revenues not expected to show any sequential improvement.\nCash flow situation needs to improve as interest rates rise.\nStock falls below 50-day moving average.\n\nnycshooter/iStock Unreleased via Getty Images\nWhile US markets were rallying across the board on Thursday, one name not taking off was aerospace giant Boeing (BA). Reports out in the morning were that the company was facing a new defecton the 787 Dreamliner, with this plane's increasing issues providing a major headwind for the company's results. With the stock also falling below a key moving average today, sentiment is rather poor currently, so investors are hoping that this month's earnings report can be a turning point for shares.\nFor Q3, total commercial deliveries rose by 6 planes sequentially, as a nice jump in the 737 was mostly offset by the stoppage in 787 deliveries. While the commercial division did show some progress, the defense, space, and security program did not, seeing deliveries decline from 43 to 37. The graphic below shows an overall breakdown of quarterly deliveries.\nSource: Q2 report and Q3 report\nThe company is scheduled to report third quarter results on October 27th. Currently, the street is looking for $17.01 billion in revenue, which would be growth of nearly 20.3% over the prior-year period. The problem though is that estimate has come down quite a bit, as going into this year the average Q3 street forecast called for $20.26 billion, and just three and a half months ago the Q3 average was north of $21.55 billion.\nQ3 estimates have come so much that the current average basically calls for revenues to be flat as compared to Q2 of this year. As the chart below shows, it's been a slow rebound from the pandemic low, and if the 787's problems aren't fixed soon, we may not get back to Q1 2019 levels until late next year, which is a lot later than many were hoping for in recent quarters.\nSource: Boeing analyst estimates page\nThe company is working its way back to sustainable profitability, but it really needs the top line to take off for that situation to be certain. I will be very curious to hear management's commentary on inflation pressures during the conference call, and how the supply chain is holding up into Q4. Don't forget, Boeing took on a lot of debt to get through the pandemic, so higher interest costs are limiting potential profits as compared to pre-virus levels.\nPerhaps one turning point that could help shares if is Boeing is finally able to be free cash flow positive again. Q2's cash burn was the lowest we've seen in a couple of years, but the net debt pile still increased by $562 million for that three-month period. As the chart below shows, Boeing's net borrowings pile has skyrocketed by nearly $37 billion over the last 10 quarters.\nSource: Company filings\nThe debt situation gets even more interesting with the potential for the Federal Reserve to start tapering next month. While yields have come down the past couple of days, the 10-Year US Treasury yield is still up more than 60 basis points so far this year. Until Boeing can get its debt pile down in a meaningful way, rising interest rates could further add to interest expenses if the company has to refinance its large debts that are coming due overtime at higher rates.\nCurrently, the average price target on the street is more than $272, implying about 25% upside from current levels. However, the stock has been in a general downtrend in recent months, and it lost the 50-day moving average (pink line below) on Thursday. With the stock below that key technical level as well as the 200-day (purple line), falling moving averages could add some technical selling pressure in the short term.\nSource: Yahoo! Finance\nIt's been a rather disappointing year so far for Boeing, so investors are hoping that the Q3 earnings report in a couple of weeks can start to turn things around. Problems with the 787 and 737 programs have led revenue estimates for 2021 to fall by more than $4.5 billion so far this year, pushing back the full revenue recovery timeline deep into 2022. Perhaps Boeing can get back to positive free cash flow soon so that it can start getting its debt pile down in the coming years, which would certainly help efforts to return to sustainable profitability. On Thursday, shares lost the 50-day moving average, only adding to the negative sentiment surrounding the name. Analysts think this stock can rally 25% from here, but Boeing needs a major turning point for that to happen.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"BA":0.9}},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"CN"},{"id":824156026,"gmtCreate":1634293606273,"gmtModify":1634293606359,"author":{"id":"3581734227956830","authorId":"3581734227956830","name":"SirBahamut","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/98035de918c1759870078e69640b8281","vip":1,"crmLevel":12,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"3581734227956830","idStr":"3581734227956830"},"htmlText":"Recover pls","listText":"Recover pls","text":"Recover pls","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/824156026","repostId":1153341118,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1153341118","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1634292095,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1153341118?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-10-15 18:01","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Boeing Needs A Turning Point<blockquote>波音需要一个转折点</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1153341118","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Summary\n\nQ3 revenues not expected to show any sequential improvement.\nCash flow situation needs to i","content":"Summary<blockquote>总结</blockquote> <ul> <li>Q3 revenues not expected to show any sequential improvement.</li> <li>Cash flow situation needs to improve as interest rates rise.</li> <li>Stock falls below 50-day moving average.</li> </ul> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1dd93b22a4403e1e6f0036a169f42dba\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">nycshooter/iStock Unreleased via Getty Images<blockquote><ul><li>第三季度收入预计不会出现任何环比改善。</li><li>随着利率上升，现金流状况需要改善。</li><li>股票跌破50日移动平均线。</li></ul>nycshooter/iStock未通过Getty Images发布</blockquote> While US markets were rallying across the board on Thursday, one name not taking off was aerospace giant Boeing (BA). Reports out in the morning were that the company was&nbsp;facing a new defecton the 787 Dreamliner, with this plane's increasing issues providing a major headwind for the company's results. With the stock also falling below a key moving average today, sentiment is rather poor currently, so investors are hoping that this month's earnings report can be a turning point for shares.<blockquote>尽管美国市场周四全面上涨，但航空航天巨头波音公司(BA)却没有起飞。早上有报道称，该公司在787梦想飞机上面临新的叛逃，这架飞机越来越多的问题给公司的业绩带来了重大阻力。由于该股今天也跌破了关键移动平均线，目前市场情绪相当糟糕，因此投资者希望本月的收益报告能够成为股价的转折点。</blockquote> For Q3, total commercial deliveries rose by 6 planes sequentially, as a nice jump in the 737 was mostly offset by the stoppage in 787 deliveries. While the commercial division did show some progress, the defense, space, and security program did not, seeing deliveries decline from 43 to 37. The graphic below shows an overall breakdown of quarterly deliveries.<blockquote>第三季度，商业交付总量环比增加了6架，因为737的大幅增长大部分被787交付的停滞所抵消。虽然商业部门确实取得了一些进展，但国防、太空和安全项目却没有，交付量从43份下降到37份。下图显示了季度交付量的总体细分。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ad8674a1586b344b853c7cc42ed05fdd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"504\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Q2 report and Q3 report<blockquote>资料来源：第二季度报告和第三季度报告</blockquote> The company is scheduled to report third quarter results on October 27th. Currently, the&nbsp;street is looking&nbsp;for $17.01 billion in revenue, which would be growth of nearly 20.3% over the prior-year period. The problem though is that estimate has come down quite a bit, as going into this year the average Q3 street forecast called for $20.26 billion, and just three and a half months ago the Q3 average was north of $21.55 billion.<blockquote>该公司定于10月27日公布第三季度业绩。目前，华尔街预计收入为170.1亿美元，比去年同期增长近20.3%。但问题是，这一估计已经下降了很多，因为今年第三季度华尔街的平均预测为202.6亿美元，而就在三个半月前，第三季度的平均预测为215.5亿美元以上。</blockquote> Q3 estimates have come so much that the current average basically calls for revenues to be flat as compared to&nbsp;Q2 of this year. As the chart below shows, it's been a slow rebound from the pandemic low, and if the 787's problems aren't fixed soon, we may not get back to Q1 2019 levels until late next year, which is a lot later than many were hoping for in recent quarters.<blockquote>第三季度的预期如此之大，以至于目前的平均收入评级与今年第二季度相比基本持平。如下图所示，从大流行低点缓慢反弹，如果787的问题不能很快得到解决，我们可能要到明年年底才能恢复到2019年第一季度的水平，这比许多人希望的要晚得多。最近几个季度。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/38a2872032f034b5dfb4b80cdb981925\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"398\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Boeing analyst estimates page<blockquote>资料来源：波音分析师预估页面</blockquote> The company is working its way back to sustainable profitability, but it really needs the top line to take off for that situation to be certain. I will be very curious to hear management's commentary on inflation pressures during the conference call, and how the supply chain is holding up into Q4. Don't forget, Boeing took on a lot of debt to get through the pandemic, so higher interest costs are limiting potential profits as compared to pre-virus levels.<blockquote>该公司正在努力恢复可持续盈利能力，但它确实需要营收腾飞才能确定这种情况。我很想听听管理层对电话会议期间通胀压力的评论，以及供应链在第四季度的表现如何。别忘了，波音公司为了度过疫情而承担了大量债务，因此与病毒爆发前的水平相比，更高的利息成本限制了潜在利润。</blockquote> Perhaps one turning point that could help shares if is Boeing is finally able to be free cash flow positive again. Q2's cash burn was the lowest we've seen in a couple of years, but the net debt pile still increased by $562 million for that three-month period. As the chart below shows, Boeing's net borrowings pile has skyrocketed by nearly $37 billion over the last 10 quarters.<blockquote>如果波音公司最终能够再次实现正自由现金流，也许一个可以帮助股价的转折点。第二季度的现金消耗是几年来最低的，但净债务在这三个月内仍然增加了5.62亿美元。如下图所示，波音公司的净借款在过去10个季度飙升了近370亿美元。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/78c1dfd92820470870fc6a60c4aa5617\" tg-width=\"588\" tg-height=\"404\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Company filings<blockquote>资料来源：公司备案</blockquote> The debt situation gets even more interesting with the potential for the Federal Reserve to start tapering next month. While yields have come down the past couple of days, the 10-Year US Treasury yield is still up more than 60 basis points so far this year. Until Boeing can get its debt pile down in a meaningful way, rising interest rates could further add to interest expenses if the company has to refinance its large debts that are coming due overtime at higher rates.<blockquote>随着美联储下个月可能开始缩减规模，债务状况变得更加有趣。尽管过去几天收益率有所下降，但今年迄今为止，10年期美国国债收益率仍上涨了60多个基点。在波音公司能够以有意义的方式减少债务之前，如果该公司不得不以更高的利率为加班到期的巨额债务进行再融资，利率上升可能会进一步增加利息支出。</blockquote> Currently, the&nbsp;average price target&nbsp;on the street is more than $272, implying about 25% upside from current levels. However, the stock has been in a general downtrend in recent months, and it lost the 50-day moving average (pink line below) on Thursday. With the stock below that key technical level as well as the 200-day (purple line), falling moving averages could add some technical selling pressure in the short term.<blockquote>目前，华尔街的平均目标价超过272美元，这意味着较当前水平上涨约25%。然而，该股近几个月来一直处于普遍下跌趋势，周四失守50日均线（下方粉色线）。由于该股低于关键技术水平以及200日线（紫线），移动平均线的下跌可能会在短期内增加一些技术性抛售压力。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5967de5e756a7557b3725e12eb512cbf\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"248\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Yahoo! Finance<blockquote>来源：雅虎！金融</blockquote> It's been a rather disappointing year so far for Boeing, so investors are hoping that the Q3 earnings report in a couple of weeks can start to turn things around. Problems with the 787 and 737 programs have led revenue estimates for 2021 to fall by more than $4.5 billion so far this year, pushing back the full revenue recovery timeline deep into 2022. Perhaps Boeing can get back to positive free cash flow soon so that it can start getting its debt pile down in the coming years, which would certainly help efforts to return to sustainable profitability. On Thursday, shares lost the 50-day moving average, only adding to the negative sentiment surrounding the name. Analysts think this stock can rally 25% from here, but Boeing needs a major turning point for that to happen.<blockquote>到目前为止，对于波音公司来说，这是相当令人失望的一年，因此投资者希望几周后的第三季度收益报告能够开始扭转局面。787和737项目的问题导致今年迄今为止2021年的收入预期下降了超过45亿美元，将收入完全恢复的时间表推迟到2022年。也许波音公司可以很快恢复正自由现金流，以便在未来几年开始减少债务，这肯定有助于恢复可持续盈利能力。周四，股价跌破50日移动平均线，这只会加剧围绕该名称的负面情绪。分析师认为该股可能会在此基础上上涨25%，但波音公司需要一个重大转折点才能实现这一目标。</blockquote>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Boeing Needs A Turning Point<blockquote>波音需要一个转折点</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nBoeing Needs A Turning Point<blockquote>波音需要一个转折点</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\nSeeking Alpha2021-10-15 18:01\n\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\nSummary<blockquote>总结</blockquote> <ul> <li>Q3 revenues not expected to show any sequential improvement.</li> <li>Cash flow situation needs to improve as interest rates rise.</li> <li>Stock falls below 50-day moving average.</li> </ul> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1dd93b22a4403e1e6f0036a169f42dba\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">nycshooter/iStock Unreleased via Getty Images<blockquote><ul><li>第三季度收入预计不会出现任何环比改善。</li><li>随着利率上升，现金流状况需要改善。</li><li>股票跌破50日移动平均线。</li></ul>nycshooter/iStock未通过Getty Images发布</blockquote> While US markets were rallying across the board on Thursday, one name not taking off was aerospace giant Boeing (BA). Reports out in the morning were that the company was&nbsp;facing a new defecton the 787 Dreamliner, with this plane's increasing issues providing a major headwind for the company's results. With the stock also falling below a key moving average today, sentiment is rather poor currently, so investors are hoping that this month's earnings report can be a turning point for shares.<blockquote>尽管美国市场周四全面上涨，但航空航天巨头波音公司(BA)却没有起飞。早上有报道称，该公司在787梦想飞机上面临新的叛逃，这架飞机越来越多的问题给公司的业绩带来了重大阻力。由于该股今天也跌破了关键移动平均线，目前市场情绪相当糟糕，因此投资者希望本月的收益报告能够成为股价的转折点。</blockquote> For Q3, total commercial deliveries rose by 6 planes sequentially, as a nice jump in the 737 was mostly offset by the stoppage in 787 deliveries. While the commercial division did show some progress, the defense, space, and security program did not, seeing deliveries decline from 43 to 37. The graphic below shows an overall breakdown of quarterly deliveries.<blockquote>第三季度，商业交付总量环比增加了6架，因为737的大幅增长大部分被787交付的停滞所抵消。虽然商业部门确实取得了一些进展，但国防、太空和安全项目却没有，交付量从43份下降到37份。下图显示了季度交付量的总体细分。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ad8674a1586b344b853c7cc42ed05fdd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"504\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Q2 report and Q3 report<blockquote>资料来源：第二季度报告和第三季度报告</blockquote> The company is scheduled to report third quarter results on October 27th. Currently, the&nbsp;street is looking&nbsp;for $17.01 billion in revenue, which would be growth of nearly 20.3% over the prior-year period. The problem though is that estimate has come down quite a bit, as going into this year the average Q3 street forecast called for $20.26 billion, and just three and a half months ago the Q3 average was north of $21.55 billion.<blockquote>该公司定于10月27日公布第三季度业绩。目前，华尔街预计收入为170.1亿美元，比去年同期增长近20.3%。但问题是，这一估计已经下降了很多，因为今年第三季度华尔街的平均预测为202.6亿美元，而就在三个半月前，第三季度的平均预测为215.5亿美元以上。</blockquote> Q3 estimates have come so much that the current average basically calls for revenues to be flat as compared to&nbsp;Q2 of this year. As the chart below shows, it's been a slow rebound from the pandemic low, and if the 787's problems aren't fixed soon, we may not get back to Q1 2019 levels until late next year, which is a lot later than many were hoping for in recent quarters.<blockquote>第三季度的预期如此之大，以至于目前的平均收入评级与今年第二季度相比基本持平。如下图所示，从大流行低点缓慢反弹，如果787的问题不能很快得到解决，我们可能要到明年年底才能恢复到2019年第一季度的水平，这比许多人希望的要晚得多。最近几个季度。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/38a2872032f034b5dfb4b80cdb981925\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"398\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Boeing analyst estimates page<blockquote>资料来源：波音分析师预估页面</blockquote> The company is working its way back to sustainable profitability, but it really needs the top line to take off for that situation to be certain. I will be very curious to hear management's commentary on inflation pressures during the conference call, and how the supply chain is holding up into Q4. Don't forget, Boeing took on a lot of debt to get through the pandemic, so higher interest costs are limiting potential profits as compared to pre-virus levels.<blockquote>该公司正在努力恢复可持续盈利能力，但它确实需要营收腾飞才能确定这种情况。我很想听听管理层对电话会议期间通胀压力的评论，以及供应链在第四季度的表现如何。别忘了，波音公司为了度过疫情而承担了大量债务，因此与病毒爆发前的水平相比，更高的利息成本限制了潜在利润。</blockquote> Perhaps one turning point that could help shares if is Boeing is finally able to be free cash flow positive again. Q2's cash burn was the lowest we've seen in a couple of years, but the net debt pile still increased by $562 million for that three-month period. As the chart below shows, Boeing's net borrowings pile has skyrocketed by nearly $37 billion over the last 10 quarters.<blockquote>如果波音公司最终能够再次实现正自由现金流，也许一个可以帮助股价的转折点。第二季度的现金消耗是几年来最低的，但净债务在这三个月内仍然增加了5.62亿美元。如下图所示，波音公司的净借款在过去10个季度飙升了近370亿美元。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/78c1dfd92820470870fc6a60c4aa5617\" tg-width=\"588\" tg-height=\"404\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Company filings<blockquote>资料来源：公司备案</blockquote> The debt situation gets even more interesting with the potential for the Federal Reserve to start tapering next month. While yields have come down the past couple of days, the 10-Year US Treasury yield is still up more than 60 basis points so far this year. Until Boeing can get its debt pile down in a meaningful way, rising interest rates could further add to interest expenses if the company has to refinance its large debts that are coming due overtime at higher rates.<blockquote>随着美联储下个月可能开始缩减规模，债务状况变得更加有趣。尽管过去几天收益率有所下降，但今年迄今为止，10年期美国国债收益率仍上涨了60多个基点。在波音公司能够以有意义的方式减少债务之前，如果该公司不得不以更高的利率为加班到期的巨额债务进行再融资，利率上升可能会进一步增加利息支出。</blockquote> Currently, the&nbsp;average price target&nbsp;on the street is more than $272, implying about 25% upside from current levels. However, the stock has been in a general downtrend in recent months, and it lost the 50-day moving average (pink line below) on Thursday. With the stock below that key technical level as well as the 200-day (purple line), falling moving averages could add some technical selling pressure in the short term.<blockquote>目前，华尔街的平均目标价超过272美元，这意味着较当前水平上涨约25%。然而，该股近几个月来一直处于普遍下跌趋势，周四失守50日均线（下方粉色线）。由于该股低于关键技术水平以及200日线（紫线），移动平均线的下跌可能会在短期内增加一些技术性抛售压力。</blockquote> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5967de5e756a7557b3725e12eb512cbf\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"248\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Source: Yahoo! Finance<blockquote>来源：雅虎！金融</blockquote> It's been a rather disappointing year so far for Boeing, so investors are hoping that the Q3 earnings report in a couple of weeks can start to turn things around. Problems with the 787 and 737 programs have led revenue estimates for 2021 to fall by more than $4.5 billion so far this year, pushing back the full revenue recovery timeline deep into 2022. Perhaps Boeing can get back to positive free cash flow soon so that it can start getting its debt pile down in the coming years, which would certainly help efforts to return to sustainable profitability. On Thursday, shares lost the 50-day moving average, only adding to the negative sentiment surrounding the name. Analysts think this stock can rally 25% from here, but Boeing needs a major turning point for that to happen.<blockquote>到目前为止，对于波音公司来说，这是相当令人失望的一年，因此投资者希望几周后的第三季度收益报告能够开始扭转局面。787和737项目的问题导致今年迄今为止2021年的收入预期下降了超过45亿美元，将收入完全恢复的时间表推迟到2022年。也许波音公司可以很快恢复正自由现金流，以便在未来几年开始减少债务，这肯定有助于恢复可持续盈利能力。周四，股价跌破50日移动平均线，这只会加剧围绕该名称的负面情绪。分析师认为该股可能会在此基础上上涨25%，但波音公司需要一个重大转折点才能实现这一目标。</blockquote>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n 来源：<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4459975-boeing-needs-a-turning-point\">Seeking Alpha</a>\n为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BA":"波音"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4459975-boeing-needs-a-turning-point","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1153341118","content_text":"Summary\n\nQ3 revenues not expected to show any sequential improvement.\nCash flow situation needs to improve as interest rates rise.\nStock falls below 50-day moving average.\n\nnycshooter/iStock Unreleased via Getty Images\nWhile US markets were rallying across the board on Thursday, one name not taking off was aerospace giant Boeing (BA). Reports out in the morning were that the company was facing a new defecton the 787 Dreamliner, with this plane's increasing issues providing a major headwind for the company's results. With the stock also falling below a key moving average today, sentiment is rather poor currently, so investors are hoping that this month's earnings report can be a turning point for shares.\nFor Q3, total commercial deliveries rose by 6 planes sequentially, as a nice jump in the 737 was mostly offset by the stoppage in 787 deliveries. While the commercial division did show some progress, the defense, space, and security program did not, seeing deliveries decline from 43 to 37. The graphic below shows an overall breakdown of quarterly deliveries.\nSource: Q2 report and Q3 report\nThe company is scheduled to report third quarter results on October 27th. Currently, the street is looking for $17.01 billion in revenue, which would be growth of nearly 20.3% over the prior-year period. The problem though is that estimate has come down quite a bit, as going into this year the average Q3 street forecast called for $20.26 billion, and just three and a half months ago the Q3 average was north of $21.55 billion.\nQ3 estimates have come so much that the current average basically calls for revenues to be flat as compared to Q2 of this year. As the chart below shows, it's been a slow rebound from the pandemic low, and if the 787's problems aren't fixed soon, we may not get back to Q1 2019 levels until late next year, which is a lot later than many were hoping for in recent quarters.\nSource: Boeing analyst estimates page\nThe company is working its way back to sustainable profitability, but it really needs the top line to take off for that situation to be certain. I will be very curious to hear management's commentary on inflation pressures during the conference call, and how the supply chain is holding up into Q4. Don't forget, Boeing took on a lot of debt to get through the pandemic, so higher interest costs are limiting potential profits as compared to pre-virus levels.\nPerhaps one turning point that could help shares if is Boeing is finally able to be free cash flow positive again. Q2's cash burn was the lowest we've seen in a couple of years, but the net debt pile still increased by $562 million for that three-month period. As the chart below shows, Boeing's net borrowings pile has skyrocketed by nearly $37 billion over the last 10 quarters.\nSource: Company filings\nThe debt situation gets even more interesting with the potential for the Federal Reserve to start tapering next month. While yields have come down the past couple of days, the 10-Year US Treasury yield is still up more than 60 basis points so far this year. Until Boeing can get its debt pile down in a meaningful way, rising interest rates could further add to interest expenses if the company has to refinance its large debts that are coming due overtime at higher rates.\nCurrently, the average price target on the street is more than $272, implying about 25% upside from current levels. However, the stock has been in a general downtrend in recent months, and it lost the 50-day moving average (pink line below) on Thursday. With the stock below that key technical level as well as the 200-day (purple line), falling moving averages could add some technical selling pressure in the short term.\nSource: Yahoo! Finance\nIt's been a rather disappointing year so far for Boeing, so investors are hoping that the Q3 earnings report in a couple of weeks can start to turn things around. Problems with the 787 and 737 programs have led revenue estimates for 2021 to fall by more than $4.5 billion so far this year, pushing back the full revenue recovery timeline deep into 2022. Perhaps Boeing can get back to positive free cash flow soon so that it can start getting its debt pile down in the coming years, which would certainly help efforts to return to sustainable profitability. On Thursday, shares lost the 50-day moving average, only adding to the negative sentiment surrounding the name. 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