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11-13
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亮剑英伟达,寒武纪引领中国AI软件新生态
闲云没有野鹤
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所以当时我几乎是all in 英伟达,可惜资金太少了
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NeuWare已经日趋成熟,全面兼容社区最新PyTorch版本和Triton算子开发语言,支持用户模型和自定义算子快速迁移。在业内人士看来,寒武纪正在构建一个能够与行业巨头英伟达CUDA生态相抗衡的软硬件一体化体系。然而,但要真正与英伟达CUDA生态竞争,仍面临诸多挑战。“CUDA的巨大生态优势在于其深厚的开发者社区积累。多年来,CUDA已成为AI领域事实上的标准,大量算法和研究都基于CUDA实现。”有业内人士指出,这形成了强大的网络效应和迁移成本,使得即使有其他选择,开发者也难以脱离CUDA生态。寒武纪显然意识到了这一点,并采取了全面兼容主流开源框架的策略。Cambricon NeuWare全面兼容主流开源框架,不仅跟进PyTorch社区的进展,支持PyTorch 2.1到PyTorch 2.8的全部社区版本,还建立了快速跟进社区版本的长效机制,可在社区版本发布后两周内实现MLU适配版本的发布。在开发工具层面,Cambricon NeuWare提供了完整的软件栈:CNPerf-GUI适配多平台,支持超大日志文件的快速加载及流畅操作;新增程序正确性分析工具CNSantizer,可自动完成多核间竞争访问检测。BANG C语言则是寒武纪BANG异构并行编程模型的编程语言,在C/C++语言基础上针对MLU架构特点进行扩展,可以高效编写在MLU上运行的并行程序,充分利用MLU大规模并行架构来加速计算任务。寒武纪还提供GPU Migration一键迁移工具,帮助用户近乎零成本将模型从GPU迁移到MLU。这种降低迁移成本的策略对于生态建设至关重要。“芯模”加速协同,软件生态破壁值得注意的是,任何技术平台的成功,不仅在于技术先进,更在于能否经得起大规模实践的检验。据21世纪经济报道记者了解,寒武纪在大模型与“搜广推”的训练推理上,已完成大规模的技术和产品验证,验证结果表明:解决方案可支撑多场景下的流式训练任务,可持续超数月稳定运行,精度与稳定性均满足要求。在大模型训练方向,寒武纪重点支持众多主流模型,包括DeepSeek V3/V3.1、Qwen2.5/Qwen3/Qwen3-next等MoE类模型训练,同时扩展了GLM4.5、Flux、Wan2.1/2.2等模型的训练支持。基于原生FP8的计算能力,寒武纪新增了Qwen/DeepSeek等系列网络FP8的训练支持,精度符合预期。在大模型推理方向,寒武纪研究并实践W4A4以及MX-FP8/MX-FP4等新型数据类型,探索并支持多种高效注意力机制,包括Sparse Attention与Linear Attention。通过深度的生态合作,针对DeepSeek V3.2-Exp模型,寒武纪实现发布即适配的支持,并与合作伙伴同步开源适配代码。而在自研NeuWare的同时,寒武纪也积极参与共建统一开放生态,破解AI领域长期存在的“芯片架构碎片化”难题。11月12日,寒武纪宣布拥抱众智FlagOS生态,这是构建国产AI软件生态的重要一步。FlagOS由北京智源人工智能研究院牵头研发,是面向多种AI芯片的开源系统软件栈,支持超20种国内外主流AI芯片型号。寒武纪和智源研究院从2024年初起就开始进行FlagGems的联合开发工作,后续进一步拓展到FlagTree(统一多后端的增强版Triton编译器)、FlagCX(统一通信库)、FlagScale(并行训推一体框架)等组件。FlagOS 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