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2023-04-24

相信小米，不容易

@钛财经:小米手机失速，造车成为唯一的出路？

2023-01-10

相信小米，相信雷军，做国人的好产品

雷军的“最后一战”，时间不多了！

2023-01-05

$小米集团-W(01810)$ 小米牛逼，永远相信小米，为发烧而生[得意] [得意] [得意]

2023-01-05

加油，小米，为发烧而生，永远相信奇迹

小米汽车外观曝光：酷似保时捷

2022-12-29

$苹果(AAPL)$ 苹果我看要跌到90目标位，纳指要跌到9000点

2022-12-22

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 跌到50块钱再买

2022-12-14

香港通关指日可待

周三起，自香港前往内地和澳门无须在口岸进行核酸检测

2022-12-07

$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$ 没有人比你更垃圾，还是专心做港股好了

2022-12-07

$小米集团-W(01810)$ 小米手机一直很好用，也一直用小米手机。年轻人的第一台手机。

2022-11-22

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 垃圾，直接跌到100吧

2022-11-07

$小米集团-W(01810)$小米加油，支持你

2022-10-28

加油马斯克，就是我们用不了咋办呀

抱歉，原内容已删除

2022-10-20

买200块钱的特斯拉，加油

@親愛的瑞:$TSLA 20221021 200.0 PUT$漂亮，马上200了[得意] [得意] [得意]

2022-10-13

$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$直接熔断，拜登下台

2022-10-13

$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$直接熔断吧，拜登下台好了，垃圾

2022-09-13

$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$真是太没用了。

2022-08-30

$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$尼玛，这是直接要跌死呀

2022-08-21

$小米集团-W(01810)$小米各方面业主都在增长，我们需要理性看待，相信小米

2022-08-02

$恒生指数(HSI)$没有脊梁骨

2022-07-20

$特斯拉(TSLA)$今晚又怎么了，雄起啊

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src=\"https://inews.gtimg.com/news_bt/OWnQu6rmU9m7N4pc3PGskTHB-CASO_anycd-_riavdNncAA/0\"/><p>发布会现场，雷军表示：“回首过去三年，高端化深刻的影响着小米。并且深度改变着小米。”</p><p>他称，小米13系列是小米高端化战略三年探索期的答卷之作。</p><p>尽管雷军如此描述，但是一系列尝试背后，小米手机在出货量、产品均价、毛利率等方面差距依旧明显。</p><p>根据其财报显示，2022年前三季度营收、净利双降，其中<span>净利润</span>更是直接亏损了6.77亿，智能手机毛利率更是从12.8%下降到8.9%。更糟糕的是，全球消费电子市场不容乐观，根据市场第三方机构IDC的数据显示，三季度，全球智能手机出货量为3.02亿台，继续延续跌势，同比下滑8.8%，而小米则<span>出货</span>4020万台，同比下滑8.4%。</p><p>对于出货量的下滑，小米将因素归结到了外部环境以及全球供应链因素的影响，但是在高端化的战局当中，小米与苹果之间的差距并没有缩小。<strong>雷军的“最后一战”，胜算几何？</strong></p><p>对于造车，雷军曾经认真的解释过：“小米造车不是在追风口、赶潮流，而是因为智能电动汽车已经从‘机械产业’转变为‘信息产业’了，小米不做就会被淘汰。”</p><p>但对新能源汽车龙头特斯拉，雷军也曾发文称：“特斯拉比小米提前十多年进入电动汽车行业，有些人认为小米已经错过了进入电动汽车行业的时间窗口。对此，我不同意，比赛才刚刚开始，我认为小米还有很多机会。”</p><p>梦想的归梦想，商业的归商业。</p><p>不管雷军如何看好，鸡汤如何的熬，新能源行业已经开始从增量市场向存量市场转变，行业的竞争已经开始。且在造车领域，小米纯粹就是“<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ABCD\">新生</a>”，而且从设计到量产，从量产到交付，从交付到起量每一步都是一个未知，能做好手机并不代表一定能做好汽车。</p><p>更为重要的是，造车是一个重资产项目，研发和落地之间差距巨大，并非研发投入越高，产品就一定越高级。</p><p>更为重要的是，产品的定位以及如何抢夺市场。</p><img src=\"https://inews.gtimg.com/news_bt/Oc6W76S_8c1f_6wI1FYs_aeEkyFbSLp0XV_vPNNjNf-6YAA/0\"/><p>当下，小米从宣布造车已经过去了600多天，汽车团队也已经扩大到了1700多人。尽管雷军一直强调小米做手机的经验，但是并不代表小米就完全能够挑战其他车企，对于小米而言，其需要解决的问题有三块：</p><p>第一，供应链的掌控问题。如果不能掌控供应链，那么对于成本的可控性就会变低，交付也很容易受到影响，这点造车新势力均领教过；</p><p>第二，代工或者是自建厂的问题。当下选择代工模式对车企本身的制约相当之大，品控问题也不容易解决。如果自建工厂，那么企业的负担就会加重，对于小米而言，企业盈利能力将会受到很大的影响，这对现有股东是不公平的，这点从小米疲软的股价就能感知一二。</p><p>第三，时间问题。当下小米汽车量产时间表依旧不是特别清晰，且市场品牌已经足够多了，小米很难和其他车企在价格以及性价比上拉开优势。更为重要的是，多家造车新势力已经量产，且得到了市场的认可，随着新能源汽车渗透率越来越高，小米汽车未来的空间也会越来越小。</p><p>光环不会一直存在，幸运之神也不会一直眷顾。对于小米还有雷军而言，留给他们的时间并不会特别多，也没有更多的容错率。因此，侃见财经并不认为小米造车就一定能够成功，在未来的变数当中，如果小米汽车不能在某些领域抢占先机，那么等待雷军的有可能就是他人生中最大的失败。</p></article></body></html>","source":"tencent","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" 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