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Some Tesla owners are losing trust in Elon Musk's promises of 'full self-driving'<blockquote>一些特斯拉车主对Elon Musk的“全自动驾驶”承诺失去了信任</blockquote>
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Some of the company's earliest backers of the \"full self-driving\" option are even beginning to lose faith in the promise of ever enjoying a truly autonomous Tesla.</p><p><blockquote>华盛顿特区(CNN)沮丧的特斯拉车主继续等待“全自动驾驶”，这是一项昂贵且延迟时间长的软件功能，甚至不能保证有助于他们汽车的转售价值。该公司“全自动驾驶”选项的一些最早支持者甚至开始对享受真正自动驾驶特斯拉的承诺失去信心。</blockquote></p><p> Years-long delays, buggy beta software, and the risk of no return on their investment in the option package have left some Tesla owners disappointed. Tesla CEO Elon Musk's prognostications, and Tesla's actual reality have diverged so much that some owners describe to CNN Business that they've lost confidence in his predictions. Some otherwise satisfied Tesla owners describe feeling duped into buying \"full self-driving\" ahead of its polished release, because Musk warned that the price would increase.</p><p><blockquote>长达数年的延误、错误的测试版软件以及期权包投资没有回报的风险让一些特斯拉车主感到失望。特斯拉首席执行官Elon Musk的预测与特斯拉的实际现实存在如此大的差异，以至于一些所有者向CNN Business描述说，他们对Elon Musk的预测失去了信心。一些原本满意的特斯拉车主描述了在“全自动驾驶”发布之前购买“全自动驾驶”的感觉，因为马斯克警告价格将会上涨。</blockquote></p><p> CNN Business interviewed eight Tesla owners to discuss \"full self-driving.\" The option has been offered since 2016, when Tesla claimed all its new vehicles had the hardware for \"full self-driving.\" Paying extra for the \"full self-driving\" software seemed like a worthy investment as Musk claimed it would be finalized in 2018. But while the software's price has gone from $3,000 to $10,000 since then, most Tesla owners have never come close to experiencing a self-driving Tesla.</p><p><blockquote>CNN Business采访了八位特斯拉车主，讨论“全自动驾驶”。该选项自2016年以来一直提供，当时特斯拉声称其所有新车都配备了“全自动驾驶”硬件。为“全自动驾驶”软件支付额外费用似乎是一项值得的投资，因为马斯克声称该软件将于2018年最终确定。不过，尽管该软件的价格从3000美元涨到了10000美元，但大多数特斯拉车主从未接近体验过自动驾驶特斯拉。</blockquote></p><p> Owners with \"full self-driving\" today don't get the big autonomous vision Musk has long promoted, but instead a set of features that drivers with only Autopilot don't have. They include automated lane changes on highways and \"Navigate on Autopilot,\" which guides a Tesla from highway on-ramp to off-ramp. There's also a parking assist feature as well as \"smart summon,\" in which the car can slowly drive through a parking lot to pick up passengers, and a feature to identify stop signs and traffic lights.</p><p><blockquote>如今，拥有“全自动驾驶”的车主并没有获得马斯克长期以来宣传的大自动驾驶愿景，而是获得了仅拥有Autopilot的驾驶员所不具备的一组功能。其中包括高速公路上的自动变道和“自动驾驶仪导航”，它引导特斯拉从高速公路入口匝道到出口匝道。还有停车辅助功能和“智能召唤”功能，汽车可以缓慢驶过停车场接载乘客，以及识别停车标志和交通灯的功能。</blockquote></p><p> For years, Musk made grandiose claims about how soon Tesla's cars will drive themselves. Musk and Tesla have fallen short of these deadlines repeatedly, but he's continued to make optimistic predictions.</p><p><blockquote>多年来，马斯克一直在夸夸其谈特斯拉的汽车将在多长时间内实现自动驾驶。马斯克和特斯拉多次未能达到这些截止日期，但马斯克继续做出乐观的预测。</blockquote></p><p> \"It's financially insane to buy anything other than a Tesla,\" Musk said in April 2019. \"If you buy a car that does not have the hardware necessary for full self-driving, it is like buying a horse.\"</p><p><blockquote>马斯克在2019年4月表示：“购买特斯拉以外的任何东西在财务上都是疯狂的。”“如果你买了一辆不具备全自动驾驶所需硬件的汽车，就像买了一匹马。”</blockquote></p><p> Recently Musk himself has questioned the value of a \"full self-driving\" subscription, which Tesla began also offering this summer.</p><p><blockquote>最近，马斯克本人质疑“全自动驾驶”订阅的价值，特斯拉今年夏天也开始提供这种订阅。</blockquote></p><p> \"We need to make full self-driving work in order for it to be a compelling value proposition,\" Musk said on Tesla's most recent earnings call. \"Right now does it make sense for somebody to do an FSD subscription? I think it's debatable.\"</p><p><blockquote>马斯克在特斯拉最近的财报看涨期权上表示：“我们需要让全自动驾驶发挥作用，才能使其成为一个引人注目的价值主张。”“现在有人订阅FSD有意义吗？我认为这是有争议的。”</blockquote></p><p> Last month Musk said that in late September Tesla owners would be able to access the latest \"full self-driving\" software, which 2,000 Tesla owners have been testing as of March of this year. But Tesla owners say they have heard similar stories before.</p><p><blockquote>上个月，马斯克表示，9月下旬，特斯拉车主将能够访问最新的“全自动驾驶”软件，截至今年3月，已有2,000名特斯拉车主对该软件进行了测试。但特斯拉车主表示，他们以前也听说过类似的故事。</blockquote></p><p> This March Musk said that in about 10 days, Tesla owners would have an option to download the latest beta version of the \"full self-driving\" software. Two weeks later Musk said the option would hopefully arrive in April. Then in April he said the software would hopefully be available in May. In May, Musk said Tesla was \"maybe a month or two away ... but these things are hard to predict.\" Then in August, Musk said the best guess for the public to have access to the latest software would be in about four weeks.</p><p><blockquote>今年3月，马斯克表示，大约10天后，特斯拉车主将可以选择下载“全自动驾驶”软件的最新测试版。两周后，马斯克表示，该选项有望在四月份到来。随后在4月份，他表示该软件有望在5月份上市。今年5月，马斯克表示，特斯拉“可能还有一两个月的时间……但这些事情很难预测。”然后在8月份，马斯克表示，公众获得最新软件的最佳猜测是在大约四周内。</blockquote></p><p> Alex Costos of Plainville, Connecticut, who bought a Tesla Model 3 in 2018, heard Musk's predictions. He described himself to CNN Business as a \"Tesla fanboy,\" and said he used to wear its merchandise everywhere.</p><p><blockquote>康涅狄格Plainville的Alex Costos在2018年购买了一辆特斯拉Model 3，他听到了Musk的预测。他向CNN Business形容自己是“特斯拉粉丝”，并表示他曾经在任何地方都穿着该公司的商品。</blockquote></p><p> Costos said he bought \"full self-driving\" software in 2019, thinking he would get good value out of it even though it wasn't usable yet. But two years later, that money feels lost, he told CNN Business. Costos is not part of the group of Tesla owners testing the beta version of \"full self-driving.\"</p><p><blockquote>科斯托斯表示，他在2019年购买了“全自动驾驶”软件，认为他会从中获得很好的价值，尽管它还不能使用。但两年后，他告诉CNN Business，这笔钱感觉损失了。Costos不属于测试“全自动驾驶”测试版的特斯拉车主群体。</blockquote></p><p> Costos said he's close to trading in his Model 3 for a new car and hasn't yet really been able to enjoy \"full self-driving.\"</p><p><blockquote>科斯托斯表示，他即将用Model 3换一辆新车，但还没有真正能够享受“全自动驾驶”。</blockquote></p><p> \"It stops at every light whether it's green or red. That's not working as intended,\" Costos said of Tesla's publicly available features of \"full self-driving,\" which generally requires drivers to tap the accelerator to go through an intersection.</p><p><blockquote>科斯托斯在谈到特斯拉公开的“全自动驾驶”功能时表示：“无论是绿灯还是红灯，它都会停下来。这并没有达到预期的效果。”该功能通常需要驾驶员轻按油门才能通过十字路口。</blockquote></p><p> Other Tesla owners have described weaknesses in the company's autonomous driving technology, such as confusing the moon for a traffic signal, or thinking an advertisement of a person on the back of a bus is a pedestrian.</p><p><blockquote>其他特斯拉车主描述了该公司自动驾驶技术的弱点，例如将月亮误认为是交通信号，或者将公交车后座上的人的广告视为行人。</blockquote></p><p> One Tesla owner filed a lawsuit last month in the Albuquerque, New Mexico district court, claiming that Tesla fraudulently concealed its engineering failures and made false and misleading representations about \"full self-driving.\"</p><p><blockquote>一位特斯拉车主上个月向新墨西哥Albuquerque地方法院提起诉讼，声称特斯拉欺诈性地隐瞒了其工程故障，并对“全自动驾驶”做出了虚假和误导性的陈述。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> Costos is especially concerned about the trade-in value of his Model 3. He does not expect dealerships will pay him a premium because his car has \"full self-driving.\" The software isn't guaranteed to carry over to a future buyer of the car, making dealers less likely to pay him extra for it, he said. Vroom, a used car website, told CNN Business that there's no guarantee \"full self-driving\" will transfer to a new owner, so it doesn't add any value to models that come in with the feature.</p><p><blockquote>科斯托斯特别关心他的Model 3的折价价值。他预计经销商不会向他支付额外费用，因为他的汽车具有“全自动驾驶”功能。他说，该软件不能保证会延续给汽车的未来买家，这使得经销商不太可能为此向他支付额外费用。二手车网站Vroom告诉CNN Business，不能保证“全自动驾驶”会转移给新车主，因此它不会为具有该功能的车型增加任何价值。</blockquote></p><p> Ford, VW, Nissan, Toyota, Subaru, Honda and GM's driver-assist packages that compete with Tesla will carry over to new owners of vehicles, company spokespersons told CNN Business.</p><p><blockquote>福特、大众、日产、丰田、斯巴鲁、本田和通用汽车与特斯拉竞争的驾驶辅助套件将延续给新车主，公司发言人告诉CNN Business。</blockquote></p><p> \"The longer you're an owner the more you realize they're kind of like any other car company. They have all the issues other car companies have, and other ones those companies don't have,\" Costos said.</p><p><blockquote>“你成为车主的时间越长，你就越会意识到他们有点像任何其他汽车公司。他们拥有其他汽车公司拥有的所有问题，以及这些公司没有的其他问题，”科斯托斯说。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla generally does not engage with the professional news media and did not respond to a request for comment.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉通常不与专业新闻媒体接触，也没有回应置评请求。</blockquote></p><p> Pushing owners' buttons</p><p><blockquote>按下业主的按钮</blockquote></p><p> Brian Self, a Tesla owner in Bristol, Tennessee, told CNN Business that he loves his Model S, but has been unhappy with how Tesla has handled the upcoming broad release of \"full self-driving.\"</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉车主Brian Self告诉CNN Business，他很喜欢他的Model S，但对特斯拉处理即将广泛发布的“全自动驾驶”的方式感到不满。</blockquote></p><p> \"He's put out random tweets for three years that say, 'Oh, yeah, full self-driving is getting ready to come out,\" Self said. \"You can't believe them anymore.\"</p><p><blockquote>“三年来，他一直在随机发布推文，说，‘哦，是的，全自动驾驶即将问世，’赛尔夫说。“你不能再相信他们了。”</blockquote></p><p> Self said he didn't think it's fair that a select group of Tesla owners who have paid for \"full self-driving\" driving access have received early access to the software. He said he felt that Tesla owners who purchased \"full self-driving\" should all have the option of receiving the latest version of the software.</p><p><blockquote>Self表示，他认为一群付费购买“全自动驾驶”驾驶权限的特斯拉车主可以提前使用该软件，这是不公平的。他表示，他觉得购买“全自动驾驶”的特斯拉车主都应该可以选择接收最新版本的软件。</blockquote></p><p> Self said it appeared Tesla is using the limited release version of \"full self-driving\" as a form of advertising. Many of the Tesla owners selected to use the beta software have large social media presences.</p><p><blockquote>Self表示，特斯拉似乎正在使用“全自动驾驶”的限量版作为一种广告形式。许多选择使用测试版软件的特斯拉车主都拥有大量的社交媒体。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla first released the beta version of the latest \"full self-driving\" in October 2020 to a select group. Videos from the beta testers show the technology has limitations and requires vigilant human supervision. But the beta testers have also described that the system is generally improving.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉于2020年10月首次向特定群体发布了最新“全自动驾驶”的测试版。测试人员的视频显示，该技术有局限性，需要警惕的人工监督。但是beta测试人员也描述了该系统总体上正在改进。</blockquote></p><p> Even so, it's gotten to the point that Musk's delayed timelines have become a joke in the Tesla community.</p><p><blockquote>即便如此，马斯克推迟的时间表已经成为特斯拉社区的一个笑话。</blockquote></p><p> \"Elon might say, 'Oh, yeah, we'll fix this, it'll be out next week,'\" Self said. \"And everyone says — 'Elon time two weeks, actual time two months.\"</p><p><blockquote>“埃隆可能会说，‘哦，是的，我们会解决这个问题，下周就会发布，’”赛尔夫说。“每个人都说——‘埃隆时间是两周，实际时间是两个月。’</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Some Tesla owners are losing trust in Elon Musk's promises of 'full self-driving'<blockquote>一些特斯拉车主对Elon Musk的“全自动驾驶”承诺失去了信任</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nSome Tesla owners are losing trust in Elon Musk's promises of 'full self-driving'<blockquote>一些特斯拉车主对Elon Musk的“全自动驾驶”承诺失去了信任</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">CNN</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-09-17 15:31</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Washington, DC (CNN)Frustrated Tesla owners continue to wait for \"full self-driving,\" an expensive and long-delayed software feature that isn't even guaranteed to help their cars' resale values. Some of the company's earliest backers of the \"full self-driving\" option are even beginning to lose faith in the promise of ever enjoying a truly autonomous Tesla.</p><p><blockquote>华盛顿特区(CNN)沮丧的特斯拉车主继续等待“全自动驾驶”，这是一项昂贵且延迟时间长的软件功能，甚至不能保证有助于他们汽车的转售价值。该公司“全自动驾驶”选项的一些最早支持者甚至开始对享受真正自动驾驶特斯拉的承诺失去信心。</blockquote></p><p> Years-long delays, buggy beta software, and the risk of no return on their investment in the option package have left some Tesla owners disappointed. Tesla CEO Elon Musk's prognostications, and Tesla's actual reality have diverged so much that some owners describe to CNN Business that they've lost confidence in his predictions. Some otherwise satisfied Tesla owners describe feeling duped into buying \"full self-driving\" ahead of its polished release, because Musk warned that the price would increase.</p><p><blockquote>长达数年的延误、错误的测试版软件以及期权包投资没有回报的风险让一些特斯拉车主感到失望。特斯拉首席执行官Elon Musk的预测与特斯拉的实际现实存在如此大的差异，以至于一些所有者向CNN Business描述说，他们对Elon Musk的预测失去了信心。一些原本满意的特斯拉车主描述了在“全自动驾驶”发布之前购买“全自动驾驶”的感觉，因为马斯克警告价格将会上涨。</blockquote></p><p> CNN Business interviewed eight Tesla owners to discuss \"full self-driving.\" The option has been offered since 2016, when Tesla claimed all its new vehicles had the hardware for \"full self-driving.\" Paying extra for the \"full self-driving\" software seemed like a worthy investment as Musk claimed it would be finalized in 2018. But while the software's price has gone from $3,000 to $10,000 since then, most Tesla owners have never come close to experiencing a self-driving Tesla.</p><p><blockquote>CNN Business采访了八位特斯拉车主，讨论“全自动驾驶”。该选项自2016年以来一直提供，当时特斯拉声称其所有新车都配备了“全自动驾驶”硬件。为“全自动驾驶”软件支付额外费用似乎是一项值得的投资，因为马斯克声称该软件将于2018年最终确定。不过，尽管该软件的价格从3000美元涨到了10000美元，但大多数特斯拉车主从未接近体验过自动驾驶特斯拉。</blockquote></p><p> Owners with \"full self-driving\" today don't get the big autonomous vision Musk has long promoted, but instead a set of features that drivers with only Autopilot don't have. They include automated lane changes on highways and \"Navigate on Autopilot,\" which guides a Tesla from highway on-ramp to off-ramp. There's also a parking assist feature as well as \"smart summon,\" in which the car can slowly drive through a parking lot to pick up passengers, and a feature to identify stop signs and traffic lights.</p><p><blockquote>如今，拥有“全自动驾驶”的车主并没有获得马斯克长期以来宣传的大自动驾驶愿景，而是获得了仅拥有Autopilot的驾驶员所不具备的一组功能。其中包括高速公路上的自动变道和“自动驾驶仪导航”，它引导特斯拉从高速公路入口匝道到出口匝道。还有停车辅助功能和“智能召唤”功能，汽车可以缓慢驶过停车场接载乘客，以及识别停车标志和交通灯的功能。</blockquote></p><p> For years, Musk made grandiose claims about how soon Tesla's cars will drive themselves. Musk and Tesla have fallen short of these deadlines repeatedly, but he's continued to make optimistic predictions.</p><p><blockquote>多年来，马斯克一直在夸夸其谈特斯拉的汽车将在多长时间内实现自动驾驶。马斯克和特斯拉多次未能达到这些截止日期，但马斯克继续做出乐观的预测。</blockquote></p><p> \"It's financially insane to buy anything other than a Tesla,\" Musk said in April 2019. \"If you buy a car that does not have the hardware necessary for full self-driving, it is like buying a horse.\"</p><p><blockquote>马斯克在2019年4月表示：“购买特斯拉以外的任何东西在财务上都是疯狂的。”“如果你买了一辆不具备全自动驾驶所需硬件的汽车，就像买了一匹马。”</blockquote></p><p> Recently Musk himself has questioned the value of a \"full self-driving\" subscription, which Tesla began also offering this summer.</p><p><blockquote>最近，马斯克本人质疑“全自动驾驶”订阅的价值，特斯拉今年夏天也开始提供这种订阅。</blockquote></p><p> \"We need to make full self-driving work in order for it to be a compelling value proposition,\" Musk said on Tesla's most recent earnings call. \"Right now does it make sense for somebody to do an FSD subscription? I think it's debatable.\"</p><p><blockquote>马斯克在特斯拉最近的财报看涨期权上表示：“我们需要让全自动驾驶发挥作用，才能使其成为一个引人注目的价值主张。”“现在有人订阅FSD有意义吗？我认为这是有争议的。”</blockquote></p><p> Last month Musk said that in late September Tesla owners would be able to access the latest \"full self-driving\" software, which 2,000 Tesla owners have been testing as of March of this year. But Tesla owners say they have heard similar stories before.</p><p><blockquote>上个月，马斯克表示，9月下旬，特斯拉车主将能够访问最新的“全自动驾驶”软件，截至今年3月，已有2,000名特斯拉车主对该软件进行了测试。但特斯拉车主表示，他们以前也听说过类似的故事。</blockquote></p><p> This March Musk said that in about 10 days, Tesla owners would have an option to download the latest beta version of the \"full self-driving\" software. Two weeks later Musk said the option would hopefully arrive in April. Then in April he said the software would hopefully be available in May. In May, Musk said Tesla was \"maybe a month or two away ... but these things are hard to predict.\" Then in August, Musk said the best guess for the public to have access to the latest software would be in about four weeks.</p><p><blockquote>今年3月，马斯克表示，大约10天后，特斯拉车主将可以选择下载“全自动驾驶”软件的最新测试版。两周后，马斯克表示，该选项有望在四月份到来。随后在4月份，他表示该软件有望在5月份上市。今年5月，马斯克表示，特斯拉“可能还有一两个月的时间……但这些事情很难预测。”然后在8月份，马斯克表示，公众获得最新软件的最佳猜测是在大约四周内。</blockquote></p><p> Alex Costos of Plainville, Connecticut, who bought a Tesla Model 3 in 2018, heard Musk's predictions. He described himself to CNN Business as a \"Tesla fanboy,\" and said he used to wear its merchandise everywhere.</p><p><blockquote>康涅狄格Plainville的Alex Costos在2018年购买了一辆特斯拉Model 3，他听到了Musk的预测。他向CNN Business形容自己是“特斯拉粉丝”，并表示他曾经在任何地方都穿着该公司的商品。</blockquote></p><p> Costos said he bought \"full self-driving\" software in 2019, thinking he would get good value out of it even though it wasn't usable yet. But two years later, that money feels lost, he told CNN Business. Costos is not part of the group of Tesla owners testing the beta version of \"full self-driving.\"</p><p><blockquote>科斯托斯表示，他在2019年购买了“全自动驾驶”软件，认为他会从中获得很好的价值，尽管它还不能使用。但两年后，他告诉CNN Business，这笔钱感觉损失了。Costos不属于测试“全自动驾驶”测试版的特斯拉车主群体。</blockquote></p><p> Costos said he's close to trading in his Model 3 for a new car and hasn't yet really been able to enjoy \"full self-driving.\"</p><p><blockquote>科斯托斯表示，他即将用Model 3换一辆新车，但还没有真正能够享受“全自动驾驶”。</blockquote></p><p> \"It stops at every light whether it's green or red. That's not working as intended,\" Costos said of Tesla's publicly available features of \"full self-driving,\" which generally requires drivers to tap the accelerator to go through an intersection.</p><p><blockquote>科斯托斯在谈到特斯拉公开的“全自动驾驶”功能时表示：“无论是绿灯还是红灯，它都会停下来。这并没有达到预期的效果。”该功能通常需要驾驶员轻按油门才能通过十字路口。</blockquote></p><p> Other Tesla owners have described weaknesses in the company's autonomous driving technology, such as confusing the moon for a traffic signal, or thinking an advertisement of a person on the back of a bus is a pedestrian.</p><p><blockquote>其他特斯拉车主描述了该公司自动驾驶技术的弱点，例如将月亮误认为是交通信号，或者将公交车后座上的人的广告视为行人。</blockquote></p><p> One Tesla owner filed a lawsuit last month in the Albuquerque, New Mexico district court, claiming that Tesla fraudulently concealed its engineering failures and made false and misleading representations about \"full self-driving.\"</p><p><blockquote>一位特斯拉车主上个月向新墨西哥Albuquerque地方法院提起诉讼，声称特斯拉欺诈性地隐瞒了其工程故障，并对“全自动驾驶”做出了虚假和误导性的陈述。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> Costos is especially concerned about the trade-in value of his Model 3. He does not expect dealerships will pay him a premium because his car has \"full self-driving.\" The software isn't guaranteed to carry over to a future buyer of the car, making dealers less likely to pay him extra for it, he said. Vroom, a used car website, told CNN Business that there's no guarantee \"full self-driving\" will transfer to a new owner, so it doesn't add any value to models that come in with the feature.</p><p><blockquote>科斯托斯特别关心他的Model 3的折价价值。他预计经销商不会向他支付额外费用，因为他的汽车具有“全自动驾驶”功能。他说，该软件不能保证会延续给汽车的未来买家，这使得经销商不太可能为此向他支付额外费用。二手车网站Vroom告诉CNN Business，不能保证“全自动驾驶”会转移给新车主，因此它不会为具有该功能的车型增加任何价值。</blockquote></p><p> Ford, VW, Nissan, Toyota, Subaru, Honda and GM's driver-assist packages that compete with Tesla will carry over to new owners of vehicles, company spokespersons told CNN Business.</p><p><blockquote>福特、大众、日产、丰田、斯巴鲁、本田和通用汽车与特斯拉竞争的驾驶辅助套件将延续给新车主，公司发言人告诉CNN Business。</blockquote></p><p> \"The longer you're an owner the more you realize they're kind of like any other car company. They have all the issues other car companies have, and other ones those companies don't have,\" Costos said.</p><p><blockquote>“你成为车主的时间越长，你就越会意识到他们有点像任何其他汽车公司。他们拥有其他汽车公司拥有的所有问题，以及这些公司没有的其他问题，”科斯托斯说。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla generally does not engage with the professional news media and did not respond to a request for comment.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉通常不与专业新闻媒体接触，也没有回应置评请求。</blockquote></p><p> Pushing owners' buttons</p><p><blockquote>按下业主的按钮</blockquote></p><p> Brian Self, a Tesla owner in Bristol, Tennessee, told CNN Business that he loves his Model S, but has been unhappy with how Tesla has handled the upcoming broad release of \"full self-driving.\"</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉车主Brian Self告诉CNN Business，他很喜欢他的Model S，但对特斯拉处理即将广泛发布的“全自动驾驶”的方式感到不满。</blockquote></p><p> \"He's put out random tweets for three years that say, 'Oh, yeah, full self-driving is getting ready to come out,\" Self said. \"You can't believe them anymore.\"</p><p><blockquote>“三年来，他一直在随机发布推文，说，‘哦，是的，全自动驾驶即将问世，’赛尔夫说。“你不能再相信他们了。”</blockquote></p><p> Self said he didn't think it's fair that a select group of Tesla owners who have paid for \"full self-driving\" driving access have received early access to the software. He said he felt that Tesla owners who purchased \"full self-driving\" should all have the option of receiving the latest version of the software.</p><p><blockquote>Self表示，他认为一群付费购买“全自动驾驶”驾驶权限的特斯拉车主可以提前使用该软件，这是不公平的。他表示，他觉得购买“全自动驾驶”的特斯拉车主都应该可以选择接收最新版本的软件。</blockquote></p><p> Self said it appeared Tesla is using the limited release version of \"full self-driving\" as a form of advertising. Many of the Tesla owners selected to use the beta software have large social media presences.</p><p><blockquote>Self表示，特斯拉似乎正在使用“全自动驾驶”的限量版作为一种广告形式。许多选择使用测试版软件的特斯拉车主都拥有大量的社交媒体。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla first released the beta version of the latest \"full self-driving\" in October 2020 to a select group. Videos from the beta testers show the technology has limitations and requires vigilant human supervision. But the beta testers have also described that the system is generally improving.</p><p><blockquote>特斯拉于2020年10月首次向特定群体发布了最新“全自动驾驶”的测试版。测试人员的视频显示，该技术有局限性，需要警惕的人工监督。但是beta测试人员也描述了该系统总体上正在改进。</blockquote></p><p> Even so, it's gotten to the point that Musk's delayed timelines have become a joke in the Tesla community.</p><p><blockquote>即便如此，马斯克推迟的时间表已经成为特斯拉社区的一个笑话。</blockquote></p><p> \"Elon might say, 'Oh, yeah, we'll fix this, it'll be out next week,'\" Self said. \"And everyone says — 'Elon time two weeks, actual time two months.\"</p><p><blockquote>“埃隆可能会说，‘哦，是的，我们会解决这个问题，下周就会发布，’”赛尔夫说。“每个人都说——‘埃隆时间是两周，实际时间是两个月。’</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源：<a href=\"https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/16/cars/tesla-fsd-delay/index.html\">CNN</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/16/cars/tesla-fsd-delay/index.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1172194624","content_text":"Washington, DC (CNN)Frustrated Tesla owners continue to wait for \"full self-driving,\" an expensive and long-delayed software feature that isn't even guaranteed to help their cars' resale values. Some of the company's earliest backers of the \"full self-driving\" option are even beginning to lose faith in the promise of ever enjoying a truly autonomous Tesla.\nYears-long delays, buggy beta software, and the risk of no return on their investment in the option package have left some Tesla owners disappointed. Tesla CEO Elon Musk's prognostications, and Tesla's actual reality have diverged so much that some owners describe to CNN Business that they've lost confidence in his predictions. Some otherwise satisfied Tesla owners describe feeling duped into buying \"full self-driving\" ahead of its polished release, because Musk warned that the price would increase.\nCNN Business interviewed eight Tesla owners to discuss \"full self-driving.\" The option has been offered since 2016, when Tesla claimed all its new vehicles had the hardware for \"full self-driving.\" Paying extra for the \"full self-driving\" software seemed like a worthy investment as Musk claimed it would be finalized in 2018. But while the software's price has gone from $3,000 to $10,000 since then, most Tesla owners have never come close to experiencing a self-driving Tesla.\nOwners with \"full self-driving\" today don't get the big autonomous vision Musk has long promoted, but instead a set of features that drivers with only Autopilot don't have. They include automated lane changes on highways and \"Navigate on Autopilot,\" which guides a Tesla from highway on-ramp to off-ramp. There's also a parking assist feature as well as \"smart summon,\" in which the car can slowly drive through a parking lot to pick up passengers, and a feature to identify stop signs and traffic lights.\nFor years, Musk made grandiose claims about how soon Tesla's cars will drive themselves. Musk and Tesla have fallen short of these deadlines repeatedly, but he's continued to make optimistic predictions.\n\"It's financially insane to buy anything other than a Tesla,\" Musk said in April 2019. \"If you buy a car that does not have the hardware necessary for full self-driving, it is like buying a horse.\"\nRecently Musk himself has questioned the value of a \"full self-driving\" subscription, which Tesla began also offering this summer.\n\"We need to make full self-driving work in order for it to be a compelling value proposition,\" Musk said on Tesla's most recent earnings call. \"Right now does it make sense for somebody to do an FSD subscription? I think it's debatable.\"\nLast month Musk said that in late September Tesla owners would be able to access the latest \"full self-driving\" software, which 2,000 Tesla owners have been testing as of March of this year. But Tesla owners say they have heard similar stories before.\nThis March Musk said that in about 10 days, Tesla owners would have an option to download the latest beta version of the \"full self-driving\" software. Two weeks later Musk said the option would hopefully arrive in April. Then in April he said the software would hopefully be available in May. In May, Musk said Tesla was \"maybe a month or two away ... but these things are hard to predict.\" Then in August, Musk said the best guess for the public to have access to the latest software would be in about four weeks.\nAlex Costos of Plainville, Connecticut, who bought a Tesla Model 3 in 2018, heard Musk's predictions. He described himself to CNN Business as a \"Tesla fanboy,\" and said he used to wear its merchandise everywhere.\nCostos said he bought \"full self-driving\" software in 2019, thinking he would get good value out of it even though it wasn't usable yet. But two years later, that money feels lost, he told CNN Business. Costos is not part of the group of Tesla owners testing the beta version of \"full self-driving.\"\nCostos said he's close to trading in his Model 3 for a new car and hasn't yet really been able to enjoy \"full self-driving.\"\n\"It stops at every light whether it's green or red. That's not working as intended,\" Costos said of Tesla's publicly available features of \"full self-driving,\" which generally requires drivers to tap the accelerator to go through an intersection.\nOther Tesla owners have described weaknesses in the company's autonomous driving technology, such as confusing the moon for a traffic signal, or thinking an advertisement of a person on the back of a bus is a pedestrian.\nOne Tesla owner filed a lawsuit last month in the Albuquerque, New Mexico district court, claiming that Tesla fraudulently concealed its engineering failures and made false and misleading representations about \"full self-driving.\"\nCostos is especially concerned about the trade-in value of his Model 3. He does not expect dealerships will pay him a premium because his car has \"full self-driving.\" The software isn't guaranteed to carry over to a future buyer of the car, making dealers less likely to pay him extra for it, he said. Vroom, a used car website, told CNN Business that there's no guarantee \"full self-driving\" will transfer to a new owner, so it doesn't add any value to models that come in with the feature.\nFord, VW, Nissan, Toyota, Subaru, Honda and GM's driver-assist packages that compete with Tesla will carry over to new owners of vehicles, company spokespersons told CNN Business.\n\"The longer you're an owner the more you realize they're kind of like any other car company. They have all the issues other car companies have, and other ones those companies don't have,\" Costos said.\nTesla generally does not engage with the professional news media and did not respond to a request for comment.\nPushing owners' buttons\nBrian Self, a Tesla owner in Bristol, Tennessee, told CNN Business that he loves his Model S, but has been unhappy with how Tesla has handled the upcoming broad release of \"full self-driving.\"\n\"He's put out random tweets for three years that say, 'Oh, yeah, full self-driving is getting ready to come out,\" Self said. \"You can't believe them anymore.\"\nSelf said he didn't think it's fair that a select group of Tesla owners who have paid for \"full self-driving\" driving access have received early access to the software. He said he felt that Tesla owners who purchased \"full self-driving\" should all have the option of receiving the latest version of the software.\nSelf said it appeared Tesla is using the limited release version of \"full self-driving\" as a form of advertising. Many of the Tesla owners selected to use the beta software have large social media presences.\nTesla first released the beta version of the latest \"full self-driving\" in October 2020 to a select group. Videos from the beta testers show the technology has limitations and requires vigilant human supervision. 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