长城魏牌CEO：智驾传感器不是越多越好堆三四个激光雷达是对用户不负责

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快科技3月25日消息，长城魏牌CEO赵永坡今日发布视频，详细介绍了智能驾驶路线中，采用激光雷达和纯视觉方案背后的差异。赵永坡表示，我们常常见到对各个媒体对国内辅助驾驶系统的排名，其中，特斯拉并不总是表现得那么突出，然而，我们必须尊重特斯拉这家公司的成就。特斯拉的纯视觉自动驾驶非常棒，不用于国内车企大多采用激光雷达与视觉结合的方式。为什么特斯拉坚持纯视觉路线呢？答案在于性价比和第一性原理。特斯拉认为...

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长城魏牌CEO：智驾传感器不是越多越好 堆三四个激光雷达是对用户不负责

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长城魏牌CEO：智驾传感器不是越多越好堆三四个激光雷达是对用户不负责